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The_Altrox

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Ffs when are they going to institute a one stock ruleset for this campy as all hell game.
That's a bit of a rushed statement. Most games don't go that long and in the first round, and that Villager player was primarily using projectiles. Villagers in the future may have to be more aggressive.

What you DIDN'T see is that that same Palutena was later decimated by Little Mac, who's a strong independent woman who don't need no projectiles.

Even so, if this game gets patches in the future, I'm all in favor for Palutena to get some extended cool down on that shield move.
 

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It would probs be better if her reflect didn't act as a wall. Most of her **** is too safe with huge windboxes slapped here and there.
 

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It would probs be better if her reflect didn't act as a wall. Most of her **** is too safe with huge windboxes slapped here and there.
That too. I think the commentators put it well in a later vid by saying that Palutena is probably going to be great in the hands of a player who knows all of her match ups. I think she might be too good, but it's too early to tell. There are some characters that do well against her right now (like Little Mac), but we'll see if that holds.
 

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That was possibly the worst 8 minutes of my life. Ffs when are they going to institute a one stock ruleset for this campy as all hell game.
Honestly that Match is slow as balls, but it's not all that bad. Even though it's zoning, there's still interactions going on.
It's not like Brawl MK timeouts where one player is abusing the character's unfair qualities to avoid all interaction.

This is almost like Jiggs V Young Link in Melee....

I still think smash 4 should have 2 stocks either way.
 

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So how many times can you wall bounce the move? Could it possibly be a stalling tactic?

Honestly that Match is slow as balls, but it's not all that bad. Even though it's zoning, there's still interactions going on.
It's not like Brawl MK timeouts where one player is abusing the character's unfair qualities to avoid all interaction.

This is almost like Jiggs V Young Link in Melee....

I still think smash 4 should have 2 stocks either way.
Jiggs vs ylink still doesn't take nearly so long. Neither character has anywhere near the ease of camping that palutena, villager, link, pacman, and megaman have.
 

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or maybe you could grow some balls and actually leave the stage to try and edgeguard

edgehogging is literally just "I don't want my opponents to be able to recover but I also don't want to have to actually try to stop them"

express babymode
or maybe you could grow some balls and learn that edgehogging requires timing, and quite often, setting up with offstage/onstage edgeguarding.

express babymode.
 

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Even so, if this game gets patches in the future, I'm all in favor for Palutena to get some extended cool down on that shield move.
It would probs be better if her reflect didn't act as a wall. Most of her **** is too safe with huge windboxes slapped here and there.
Sorry, but I'm inclined to disagree with you guys. Palutena literally needs the tools she has because her moves are way too laggy. She's light, all her kill options (smashes) have insane lag on them and even her weak moves have a fair amount of lag. She can't properly get in on villager because there's always a projectile flying at you.
In all honesty the Villager seems to be the main problem in this matchup, why does every move in his kit need to be a projectile?
 
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Sorry, but I'm inclined to disagree with you guys. Palutena literally needs the tools she has because her moves are way too laggy. She's light, all her kill options (smashes) have insane lag on them and even her weak moves have a fair amount of lag. She can't properly get in on villager because there's always a projectile flying at you.
In all honesty the Villager seems to be the main problem in this matchup, why does every move in his kit need to be a projectile?
I do agree that she needs the tools and I'm not blaming the character for how the matchup is played. If anything, it's a mix between Villager's insane tools and Aerolink being Aerolink.

And while her moves are laggy (mostly her smashes) they do cover a lot of space. But, with some of her custom moves, I'd say she's more than capable of getting in on Villager. That dash side-b tho
 

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I do agree that she needs the tools and I'm not blaming the character for how the matchup is played. If anything, it's a mix between Villager's insane tools and Aerolink being Aerolink.

And while her moves are laggy (mostly her smashes) they do cover a lot of space. But, with some of her custom moves, I'd say she's more than capable of getting in on Villager. That dash side-b tho
I guess everyone ignored me...

The guy playing Villager had a side bet to run the clock out the whole time.

http://smashboards.com/threads/blas...m-tourney-locators-invitation-tourney.368643/

Srsly, we already have hard evidence that the average time for 3 stock is like 4min30ish sec,
 

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Yes I know, it was a very unintelligent move on my part. But either way I want Smash 4 on Friday so I need to know what stores are selling it. Otherwise I will have to shop at the source of all evil, Gamestop. I never thought I'd set foot in that place again, but it looks like I have no other choice.
 

KayB

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Big House 4 PM Notable Attendants + Notable Players:
Professor Pro
Hungrybox
Coney
Junebug
The_NZA
HMW
Will
Tetraflora
1der
CoffeeBlack
Nintendude
Zwarm
Axe
Drephen
Scythe
Bryonato
SFAT
Colbol
Arty
Borp
Zoso (I think)
ORLY
Phish-it
PM Social thread | Saxophoneoftime (lololol)
Abate
Pink Fresh
Warchamp7 (?!)
Armada
Leffen
DMX
Lordy
Hyuga
Pluto!! (fellow animator)
Hyuga
M@V
Westballz
Jolteon
Laudandus
Chu Dat
DLA
Vish
DJ Nintendo
Duck
Toph
M2K
Oracle
ZeRo
Wizzrobe
Tai
Kappy
Black Mauser (dunno this guy, but he's first seed in his pool)
KO Kingpin
Plup
Kels
Gahtzu
Anther
Mango
Rizner
Plasma
Bap Deezy (Same as Black Mauser)
Double
Lucky
Oro?!
Alpha Dash
Nick Riddle
Carls493 (same as Black Mauser)
Frootloop
Shroomed
Prince Abu
Solharath
Lazarond
Redd
VaNz
Bladewise
Ripple
Milkman
Porkchops
Seibrik
 

MonkUnit

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Monk WI
Jorb MI
J-Will! MN
Crusader MI

Besides M2K, I don't know who Jorb, J-Will!, or Crusader are or what characters they use. Anyone know?
 

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Big House 4 PM Notable Attendants + Notable Players:
Professor Pro
Hungrybox
Coney
Junebug
The_NZA
HMW
Will
Tetraflora
1der
CoffeeBlack
Nintendude
Zwarm
Axe
Drephen
Scythe
Bryonato
SFAT
Colbol
Arty
Borp
Zoso (I think)
ORLY
Phish-it
PM Social thread | Saxophoneoftime (lololol)
Abate
Pink Fresh
Warchamp7 (?!)
Armada
Leffen
DMX
Lordy
Hyuga
Pluto!! (fellow animator)
Hyuga
M@V
Westballz
Jolteon
Laudandus
Chu Dat
DLA
Vish
DJ Nintendo
Duck
Toph
M2K
Oracle
ZeRo
Wizzrobe
Tai
Kappy
Black Mauser (dunno this guy, but he's first seed in his pool)
KO Kingpin
Plup
Kels
Gahtzu
Anther
Mango
Rizner
Plasma
Bap Deezy (Same as Black Mauser)
Double
Lucky
Oro?!
Alpha Dash
Nick Riddle
Carls493 (same as Black Mauser)
Frootloop
Shroomed
Prince Abu
Solharath
Lazarond
Redd
VaNz
Bladewise
Ripple
Milkman
Porkchops
Seibrik
To follow up on this, here's some really good matches and thier pools to look out for
Nintedude and zwarm A29
June bug vs Anmex (Good az player) A24
@ The_NZA The_NZA vs Tagless Kyle (Good luck nza, Kyle is a monster who almost 4 stocked Tai in marth dittos) A25
ARTY VS BORP HYPE A34
Scythe vs bryonato A31
Axe vs drephen A30 should be interesting
Rizner vs sveet C33
KELS VS GHATZU IN POOLS WTF ROBIN JUGGELOMAN C30
 

KayB

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that's a pretty funny joke
It does though? Even if you send someone offstage and know that they can't make it back if you edgehog, if you take the ledge too quickly and the opponent has active hitboxes in their recovery, your ledge invincibility could run out and you can fail the edgeguard.

Chu dat is no longer going.
Why

Pool C21
P4K EMP | Mew2King NJ
Monk WI
Jorb MI
J-Will! MN
Crusader MI

Besides M2K, I don't know who Jorb, J-Will!, or Crusader are or what characters they use. Anyone know?
I don't know who Jorb and Crusader are, but I could've sword I've heard the name J-Will somewhere. Ganon player maybe? Not sure.
 
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Do you actually have to be sponsored to get sponsor flair like dude PM Social | Tink-er looks wicked sick

We could totally set the bar of entry to the PM Social tag at like 200 mech warrior likes or something.
 
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