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Gamegenie222

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Yes it is cause they are people live in booty areas for smash and wi-fi was all they had. Also despite the lag and all of that people still used it to practice still and the wi-fi ladder on All Is brawl( wow can't believe that website still around). All in all it hurts alot of people especially if your a smash, Pokemon or a Mario Kart player.
 

PillsBuryDopeBoy

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Yes it is cause they are people live in booty areas for smash and wi-fi was all they had. Also despite the lag and all of that people still used it to practice still and the wi-fi ladder on All Is brawl( wow can't believe that website still around). All in all it hurts alot of people especially if your a smash, Pokemon or a Mario Kart player.
And Naruto Ninja Revolution 3 players :(
*Although I barely ever play the game*
 

shairn

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Mario Kart Wii online was legit. I dunno where they screwed up with Brawl.
A larger number of inputs and the need for inputs to be synchronised causes the lag. In Mario kart, it's pretty inconsequential if you let players handle their karts on the client-side.
 

PillsBuryDopeBoy

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But guys, smash 4's gonna have a net-code that's on par with killer instinct.
I bet my left leg and right arm on it.
 

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A larger number of inputs and the need for inputs to be synchronised causes the lag. In Mario kart, it's pretty inconsequential if you let players handle their karts on the client-side.
Hmmm, I see. Hopefully they are able to deliver a decent online service with SSB4. Nintendo tends to downplay the importance of having a good online, especially in times like these when so many people judge games for their online experience.
 

Kaye Cruiser

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But guys, smash 4's gonna have a net-code that's on par with killer instinct.
I bet my left leg and right arm on it.
I'm pretty sure you're going against the law of Equivalent Exchange.

I hope you know a cute busty blond mechanic, buddy.
 

Spooky Skook

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So can someone explain to me why people don't update their netcodes as time goes on?
I'll be the first to admit that I think the internet is magic so I don't understand much about the netcode, but wouldn't it be easier to just update the netcode as new problems arise instead of just giving up and waiting till the next game to try it again?
 

Comeback Kid

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Because development costs money and there is no incentive to spend money fixing netcode when you can fix it from the ground up the next go around without worrying about ****ing up the experience that people are used to already.

Also, because Nintendo.
 
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Sapphire Dragon

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So can someone explain to me why people don't update their netcodes as time goes on?
I'll be the first to admit that I think the internet is magic so I don't understand much about the netcode, but wouldn't it be easier to just update the netcode as new problems arise instead of just giving up and waiting till the next game to try it again?
By nature, coders are lazy. Can confirm- I'm a coder. The only real incentives for us are food and the pay to get us better tech. Some coders overcome this, but most do not.

Also, if you've ever glanced at a page of code in your life, you'll quickly realize it is torture and ultimately a futile effort to try to fix code so messed up from patching over the years that it's barely readable. I'm sure they've saved a few general outlines of structure, and (hopefully) ideas for improving it, but the original code is out of the picture. It's literally like giving 5 kids one crayon each, letting them draw lines on a wall, and trying to figure out where one color ends and the other begins. You just... can't.

Oh, and when you update really old code, it tends to create more bugs that need more patching later, which creates a vicious cycle. Like, you know, the pharmaceutical industry. "Here, have some medicine for your disorder. Oh and here, have some medicine to treat the dry mouth that the medicine caused. Ah, my bad, here's some pain medicine to treat the pain that second one causes"

Also, as Comeback Kid said, Nintendo.
 
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drsusredfish

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well aint this some BS. I am finally geting a new isp and the nintendo wifi is about to kick the bucket. Well i have about 3 months to try and reverse my ranking as "the lag god".
 

MechWarriorNY

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Big dreams have small beginnings
And small graves when they die.
well aint this some BS. I am finally geting a new isp and the nintendo wifi is about to kick the bucket. Well i have about 3 months to try and reverse my ranking as "the lag god".
Play a GOOD game online.
only ever using wifi doesn't exactly qualify as a smash career
Agreed with you here. Online is just that; online, and no more.
Mario Kart Wii online was legit. I dunno where they screwed up with Brawl.
Everywhere. /exactwordingson
 

Gamegenie222

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Sapphire Dragon with IRL nerd knowledge also It sucks for people who want to practice DI options and such cause Smash having a booty butt cheeks training mode( please Namco get Harada specifically and beat Sakurai upside the head till he work on this seriously) and casuals who just wanna play with their friends as well as people who dont have scenes cause they don't know where to look and/or live in some rural bum place in the country. It also sucks for people who haven't played games like Mario Kart Wii yet and haven't tried online like me :( . Pokemon community will also be hurting hella as well.

Also I went back to playing Wi-fi for brawl randomly a couple of months back after games with real netcode and holy crap it's bad like if you stuck on a island and forced to use dial-up to watch videos on the internet and contact people while eating moldy bread cause you got nothing else to snack on ATM.
 

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What cave do you live in?

Smooth Criminal
A "cave" where the UMVC / BlazBlue / Street fighter scene is way bigger than the smash scene.
Yes it is cause they are people live in booty areas for smash and wi-fi was all they had. Also despite the lag and all of that people still used it to practice still and the wi-fi ladder on All Is brawl( wow can't believe that website still around). All in all it hurts alot of people especially if your a smash, Pokemon or a Mario Kart player.
Suffering.
 

SpiderMad

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I'm quitting Cheetos and Doritos, they never make me feel better after eating them and they got just a bunch of health factors in the dyes.

well aint this some BS. I am finally geting a new isp and the nintendo wifi is about to kick the bucket. Well i have about 3 months to try and reverse my ranking as "the lag god".
I have to play you, Das, Zhime, Adinseed, and whomever else before this thing goes down.
 

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Street fighter is bigger and Marvel in North America and that's really it.
[citation needed]
I've NEVER seen smash get consistently higher headcount at it's best than FGC stuff at it's best(bias inherent, I don't keep track of ALL tourneys).
 

SpiderMad

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I'm quitting Cheetos and Doritos, they never make me feel better after eating them and they got a bunch of health hazards in the dyes. What's the next best thing to munch on? Should I try finding cheap unsalted peanuts?

well aint this some BS. I am finally geting a new isp and the nintendo wifi is about to kick the bucket. Well i have about 3 months to try and reverse my ranking as "the lag god".
I have to play you, Das, Zhime, Adinseed, and whomever else before this thing goes down.
 
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[citation needed]
I've NEVER seen smash get consistently higher headcount at it's best than FGC stuff at it's best(bias inherent, I don't keep track of ALL tourneys).
Melee's probably #3 in terms of size these days, behind SF and Marvel.
 

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Plum

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+1 for peanuts
you can get yourself a few pounds (in the shell or gtfo) for a couple bucks
as long as you store them well they'll last a looooong time
In the shell tastes better imo, and also having to work a little to get at your snack makes you more prone to eating less of them

nuts in general though
amazing
peanuts are just my personal favorite... even if they are technically not nuts...
 

Bambi_

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I think I discovered something

YOSHI:
  • Powerful spike aerial
  • Good spacing/follow-up projectile
  • Useless side-b that beginners spam anyway
  • Subpar recovery
  • Easy to gimp
  • Tilts are great for combos
  • Five letter name
  • Huge nose
  • Top 9 at Apex
  • Dinosaur
FALCO:
  • Powerful spike aerial
  • Good spacing/follow-up projectile
  • Useless side-b that beginners spam anyway
  • Subpar recovery
  • Easy to gimp
  • Tilts are great for combos
  • Five letter name
  • Huge beak
  • Top 9 at Apex
  • Bird (birds are basically modern dinosaurs)

Yoshi is literally Falco
 

Gamegenie222

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You mean EX Yoshi lol ? Transcended goofy clown shoes for shoes to stomp heads in, pilot Arwings and have a blaster to shoot people with.
 

Gamegenie222

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It is for that money that Falco rakes in with the Star Fox team also flying around the Lylat system and all that.
 
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