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Sashimi

Sashimi

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Oro?! said:
Multihits like Fox dair are the best solution to Yoshi parry. Yoshi also gets waveshined, so there's that benefit if you land a drill and he is trying to parry.

#FoxOnly
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If we're still talking perfect Yoshi vs perfect Fox, Rapid powershield (another weird Yoshi thing) beats Fox's Dair and since Dair has a 9-frame landing, it can be punished by quite a few of Yoshi's moves before Fox can Shine.


Ryxis said:
I don't think he can be secret top tier when his recovery is that inconsistent. The double jump is good for recovery, but he (except for Jiggs) is the only character who doesn't get recovery back when they get edge guarded. And he relies on the double jump while on stage for practically everything. If you're not using the double jump on stage as Yoshi, then you're missing out on like half of his stuff, but if you are, all it takes is a poke at any percent and you're dead. No recovery at all, and you die a few inches off of the edge at 15%.
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This doesn't stop Yoshi from being good in Project M, and it's not what stops Yoshi from being good in Melee.
 
Sapphire Dragon

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Gamegenie222

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Sapphire Dragon said:
fffiiiiiiiiiiiiiinaaaallllllyyyyyyyy, it took them long enough lol XD

Back to incessant breeding! If anyone needs some hidden abilities or good IV Fletchlings/Magikarps, hit me up. I'm back in business :3
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Hook me with with a HA Magikarp later. Also I will need to see what pokes your also have down the line as well.
 
Sapphire Dragon

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Gamegenie222 said:
Hook me with with a HA Magikarp later. Also I will need to see what pokes your also have down the line as well.
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Bleh, the Pokebank servers are already full and it kicked me off. :/ No idea when they'll be functional again, I highly doubt that will be today and almost all my boxes are full so I can't do anything till then. Will let you know in a PM when I'm able to trade though, but I have to go to class soon so I'll be back later. Check my site here for what I can offer: http://www.sapphiredragon.co.nr/SapphireDragon/pokemon-breeding
 
9bit

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SpiderMad said:
How recent of stuff?
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There's some good stuff on The Slip, but I feel like everything else from With Teeth and forward has been pretty bland.

The Fragile is my favorite of the stuff he's done; I doubt it'll ever be that good again.
 
Vashimus

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Ryxis said:
I don't think he can be secret top tier when his recovery is that inconsistent. The double jump is good for recovery, but he (except for Jiggs) is the only character who doesn't get recovery back when they get edge guarded. And he relies on the double jump while on stage for practically everything. If you're not using the double jump on stage as Yoshi, then you're missing out on like half of his stuff, but if you are, all it takes is a poke at any percent and you're dead. No recovery at all, and you die a few inches off of the edge at 15%.
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Then get smart about when to use your double jumps where they can't be punished, such as when you're comboing or edge-guarding someone else. While it's especially true for Yoshi, it's the same for every character. Having an Up-B or more to recover is no excuse for carelessly using your double jump.

People also have a bad habit of attacking during Yoshi's double jump when being edge guarded rather than just letting the armor blow through the attack.
 
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Bambi_

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Vashimus said:
Then get smart about when to use your double jumps where they can't be punished, such as when you're comboing or edge-guarding someone else. While it's especially true for Yoshi, it's the same for every character. Having an Up-B or more to recover is no excuse for carelessly using your double jump.

People also have a bad habit of attacking during Yoshi's double jump when being edge guarded rather than just letting the armor blow through the attack.
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I mean, of course. You don't waste it. But you're going to be using it, and no matter how smart you are about it, there's going to be some stupid trade where a nairplane flies in and ruins your whole day because you traded with a weak hit. It happened to Amsa so many times at Apex. I'd expect him to know how to be smart about when to use the double jump. Yoshi's just so killable. There's isn't a way to be taking full advantage of the utility of the double jump without sometimes encountering the very steep risks associated with it.
 
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So after playing with a friend, I realize the characters I'm truly good with are Ike and Falco.
Go me.
 
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So I'm watching that Smash Video on Youtube

What the ****

Nooch?

NOOCH?

"Hit em with the nooch!"
 
Oracle

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So the smashfest at my house randomly is huge so were doing a tournament! Me awestin bwett ct denti utdzac and more! Twitch.tv/tourneylocator

Dont forget to subscribe to see even more dfw pros in action!
 
HyperrCrow

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Seriously though. We need Zeldas Brawl icon. She's literally the only brawl character without one while we have two melee roy ones.
But that's just me complaining because the tournament results thread looks weird to me with all Brawl like icons and then the random melee zelda I have to use.
 
Yung Mei

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Oracle said:
So the smashfest at my house randomly is huge so were doing a tournament! Me awestin bwett ct denti utdzac and more! Twitch.tv/tourneylocator

Dont forget to subscribe to see even more dfw pros in action!
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i ****ing read the bolded and thought you were typing in German
 
Yung Mei

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anyone mind checking a brstm volume for me? i broke my adapter and i cant check the in game volume

its a brstm of that Ice Cube/KK Slider mashup


nvm, somethings wrong with it it gets all cackly and ****
 
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Sashimi

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Ryxis said:
I mean, of course. You don't waste it. But you're going to be using it, and no matter how smart you are about it, there's going to be some stupid trade where a nairplane flies in and ruins your whole day because you traded with a weak hit. It happened to Amsa so many times at Apex. I'd expect him to know how to be smart about when to use the double jump. Yoshi's just so killable. There's isn't a way to be taking full advantage of the utility of the double jump without sometimes encountering the very steep risks associated with it.
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Considering aMSa got 9th place, I don't see how this is an example of Yoshi's Recovery holding him back...
 
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