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Comeback Kid

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You know how Link is always sided with the Gods? I'd like a Zelda where the Gods are the bad guys and Link is fighting against them. That would be cool.
I prefer the gods being in the backstory but long dead in history or not anthropomorphized so much honestly.

Are the talking trees gods? Does it matter?

Maybe have Link fight against angry spirits, but that would just be TP all over again.
 

KayB

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I prefer the gods being in the backstory but long dead in history or not anthropomorphized so much honestly.

Are the talking trees gods? Does it matter?

Maybe have Link fight against angry spirits, but that would just be TP all over again.
I mean something like instead of fighting against Ganon you're trying to revive him instead. Link has always been a light character. I'd like to play as a dark version of him.
 

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What if Dark Link was literally playable? You could basically see the story from two perspectives. Dark Link is summoned to mess things up and Link has to clean up after him later on.
 

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It would be really cool if they did a Oracle of X type thing. 2 games: one where you play regular Link and one where you play Dark Link. Both during the same time frame so you can see things from the opposing side's perspective.

The two games can be linked in some way after beating one. So that the actions you took in the first one you played could be seen to happen directly or indirectly when you played the second.
 

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What if Dark Link was literally playable? You could basically see the story from two perspectives. Dark Link is summoned to mess things up and Link has to clean up after him later on.
It seems like a good idea on paper, but I would think that would involve a lot of backtracking or repeated areas.
 

Plum

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Eh, knowing Nintendo they would take that idea and make Dark Link do the "right thing" in the end.
Like you would spend the entire game running into Link, and fighting him, but heavens forbid we have a bad guy win at the end of the game or whatever. So Dark Link helps Link in the end. Calling it if they ever do something like that.
 

Kati

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What if Dark Link was literally playable? You could basically see the story from two perspectives. Dark Link is summoned to mess things up and Link has to clean up after him later on.
Dorkly suggested that assuming he is a "dark reflection," he would talk a lot and take care of cuccos. I wouldn't mind either of those things in a zelda game.
 

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Zelda doesn't need anything drastic, it just needs to stray from the formula a bit, not so dungeon heavy.

Less massive overworld with more focus on exploring it. Lets try to surprise people, get out of the Overworld -> dungeon -> find item -> use item on boss. I mean that's fun and all but I think there's enough creative people at Nintendo to do something different and take a chance on something.

Last I heard Miyamoto wants to do something different with Zelda, that's p. exciting if you ask me.


Edit: And no talking Link either. Voice acting I'd like, but after Other M....

No talking Link.
 

Shadic

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Zelda doesn't need anything drastic, it just needs to stray from the formula a bit, not so dungeon heavy.

Less massive overworld with more focus on exploring it. Lets try to surprise people, get out of the Overworld -> dungeon -> find item -> use item on boss. I mean that's fun and all but I think there's enough creative people at Nintendo to do something different and take a chance on something.
That sounds exactly like Majora's Mask.
 

B.W.

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I'd love to see ALttP made in 3D. Exploring that world from a different point of view would be so cool.
 

hotdogturtle

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Zelda doesn't need anything drastic, it just needs to stray from the formula a bit, not so dungeon heavy.
Non-coincidentally, all of the best games in the series are the ones that are furthest from "the formula".

I hate how the simplest, dumbest things become mainstream and anything that's either complex or unique is automatically doomed to obscurity.
 

Yung Mei

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oh man i still remember when i had a pretty decent charizard
my charizard is complete ass now
 

Vashimus

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I also find Majora's Mask the best (and fav, playing it right now too. ****ing Great Bay Temple man), with OoT and ALttP following. I'd love a Master Quest of it when they make the 3D version. Hero mode is the lazy way of making it harder.

Anybody else getting tired of those "giant eye = weakpoint" bosses? It's been done to death.
 

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You must have missed the patch notes. They added Stealth Rocks into PM, so Charizard is basically unplayable.
Although once he gets Mega Evolution and Drought for his ability he'll probably be top tier. No way Fox and Falco are taking a STAB, Drought boosted Fireblast.
 

Yung Mei

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fun fact, i only played charizard for about a week, and that was the whole week i played him. He felt natural as ****, now he feels wonky as hell
 

Sanity's_Theif

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You be trippin'. Windwaker is way better than TP.


TP? That's a first. The bosses and overworld sucked in that game.
This is too weird, never heard a single person say they like WW, and as for TP, everyone who's played OOT like's TP even more than that, TP's sales are even higher than OOT's

I enjoyed everything about TP except the bug sidequests, but it's not a big deal

Couldn't even force myself to play WW again, so boring

Personally though Majora's Mask is my #1 favorite, TP is #2
 

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If there's anyone who would wanna join us on skype at some future point for a podcast about project m, you can inbox me here on smashboards with your skype contact details, relevant subjects you'd like to discuss, etc. and maybe you can get in on it
And by us its usually a variation of me, gallo, zhime, leelue, guru, and others
 

Hylian

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I'm with the "Wind Waker is the best Zelda game" camp.
For me, Zelda games are all about the adventure and exploration, and no other game in the series captured that feeling as well as Wind Waker.
The world is so wide open even relative to other games in the series and I think that's what makes the game for me more than anything else.
I've played through Wind Waker dozens of times, and each time the game feels totally different. I love how I can totally control the pacing of the game moreso than any other Zelda game. I've done runs where I juts go from one temple to the next with no sidequests or exploration. I've done runs where I take my time to enjoy each island. I've even done playthroughs where I just go where the wind takes me with bare minimum direction changes. Each time I do play through the game though I discover new sidequests, new secrets, or maybe just a better way to do a puzzle; no matter what though Wind Waker feels fresh each time for me.
At least in my opinion, no other Zelda game comes close to matching what Wind Waker accomplishes. The way the art style, music, story telling, and just feel of the world itself all just come together make for such a beautiful gaming experience.

I can totally get some people not enjoying the sailing, and the fact that a lot of the exploration is totally outside of where the story takes you rather than more alongside it. It's not for everyone I guess. For me at least though it is just the best Zelda I've played. It might not be as groundbreaking as say, OoT, but it took everything in Wind Waker is just turned up to 11.


Pretty much this, I just love the exploration aspect of the game, as well as the music(things like hearing subtle samples from other zelda songs make me nerdgasm).

As far as the best zelda goes I actually think that belongs to Majoras Mask hands down without question.
 

Vashimus

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Zelda fans are horrible, this is old news. That's why I'm glad that I only like a few specific Zelda games and I do not consider myself a fan of the series as a whole.
I don't know what it is about Zelda games, but it always takes a few years before people truly start to appreciate the title, since it's around the early years when it's still new, fans will rip it apart, and reviewers will praise it to the moon.

You know what, after seeing all your guys' thoughts on WW and how much you love it, I'm getting jealous. So it settles it. I will be open-minded, learn to be more patient, and I'll give this game another chance, starting right from the beginning all the way to the end. I haven't touched the game in many years, so I've forgotten what to do, making it almost blind. Even though I've gotten close to beating it, a clean slate will definitely give me a better experience. Maybe trying it out again after growing a bit will help me appreciate it better than back then. Because I REALLY want to enjoy this game like everyone else and see what I am missing.
 

hotdogturtle

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Wind Waker is still the second best 3D Zelda (not that that means much). But it's not even on the same level as MM, which is in a league of its own. WW is still a "Zelda formula" game, it just happens to be better at it than the other ones.

2D Zelda on the whole > 3D Zelda anyway
 

Yung Mei

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If there's anyone who would wanna join us on skype at some future point for a podcast about project m, you can inbox me here on smashboards with your skype contact details, relevant subjects you'd like to discuss, etc. and maybe you can get in on it
And by us its usually a variation of me, gallo, zhime, leelue, guru, and others
what kind of stuff do you guys usually discuss?
 

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They talk about plans to rule the world, and whether Eli has a better DK than Strongbad

SPOILER ALERT: EREN IS THE FEMALE TITAN
 

GP&B

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Wind Waker is still the second best 3D Zelda (not that that means much). But it's not even on the same level as MM, which is in a league of its own. WW is still a "Zelda formula" game, it just happens to be better at it than the other ones.

2D Zelda on the whole > 3D Zelda anyway
Oracle of Ages is soooo goooood.
 

DMG

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Wind Waker was pretty good, minus long sailing

Sailed for so long, idk how he didn't age into an old man
 

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I don't know quite what it is, but I'm just a junkie for Gamecube games.
Like even my favorite 3D Mario game is Sunshine, which most people give me weird looks for.
 
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