Project M Social Thread Gold

[Eternal Yoshi]

Me neither kek...

But I have my sources and I'm watching in the background, hoping the cycle gets broken while I better define it.

 

[Rᴏb]

Has anyone here played DaS2, specifically its DLC? I've got the itch to play, but I don't really want to waste my money on the DLC if it's just as bad as the main game.

 

[Leafeon]

No.

Anyways, despite playing MORE P:M over the past week, I have posted less on this forum
is there a correlation

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

No.

Anyways, despite playing MORE P:M over the past week, I have posted less on this forum
is there a correlation

Nah, you've been clocking in many hours over on the PMS skype chat. The chat is the next level in PMS meta.

 

[Player -0]

The super elites (aka have PMS in their name) have a chat system. While it's not google hangouts or something dumb the caste system is beginning.

 

[MechWarriorNY]

^Putting a fancy epithet in front of your name does not make one a good player. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Anyways, despite playing MORE P:M over the past week, I have posted less on this forum. is there a correlation

...

but apparently people in the smash community get offended when you use it

That's the thing; humans get offended. That's all they do.
...My advice on that, based on experience? Get over caring about other people's hurt feelings(if they are not worth the trouble, but if they are, never STOP caring) because empathy is NOT always a good thing, it's often a burden. The ability to write people off as not mattering to you if need be is a necessary one these days.

Mean to the point of probably being cruelty, yes, but sometimes there is no other way.

 

[Leafeon]

Nah, you've been clocking in many hours over on the PMS skype chat. The chat is the next level in PMS meta.

I see.

^Putting a fancy epithet in front of your name does not make one a good player. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Just another reason to be better.

 

[MechWarriorNY]

The more cause to

, the better, sure.

 

[Lizalfos]

@ MechWarriorNY I've been spreading the word about post scarcity society while people futilely try to decide whether Capitalism or Socialism is better.

Quick! Somebody explain to me how it is possible for E3 to have 4+ high quality streams and all the journalists on the bandwidth at the same time. I need to explain how Apex is capable of this or I might lose face. nooooo
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Are the canadians proud?

 

[MechWarriorNY]

Robots will steal your job, and that's okay. http://robotswillstealyourjob.com/
I can't wait until people don't have the thin excuse of 'tough times' to fall back on for screwing other people over, nor am I happy to wait for money to be obsolete.
...But I'm not in any hurry.

 

[Saikyoshi]

Does anyone happen to know where I can find a snapshot decrypter? All the ones that were around in '08 are long gone.

 

[AuraMaudeGone]

Robots will steal your job, and that's okay. http://robotswillstealyourjob.com/
I can't wait until people don't have the thin excuse of 'tough times' to fall back on for screwing other people over, nor am I happy to wait for money to be obsolete.
...But I'm not in any hurry.

I watched the author's TED Talk and honestly, he's very optimistic. It's to the point that it's kinda creepy.

 

[Lizalfos]

I got the same thing.

I think we will move further towards socialism as a reaction to technology, which is ok, technology actually makes socialism more feasible and solves many of its roadblocks.
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Today my Chemistry teacher gave a pop quiz (easy) and everyone complained. He didn't count it but told us that there would be more pop quizzes in the future.

Then he said in the real world if you aren't prepared for the unexpected, you die.

It was almost as good as the time he told a kid complaing about his class, "Thats ok, you'll just get dropped out of the honors program". What a ****ing legend.

 

[PandaPanda Senketsu]

I got the same thing.

I think we will move further towards socialism as a reaction to technology, which is ok, technology actually makes socialism more feasible and solves many of its roadblocks.
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Today my Chemistry teacher gave a pop quiz (easy) and everyone complained. He didn't count it but told us that there would be more pop quizzes in the future.

Then he said in the real world if you aren't prepared for the unexpected, you die.

It was almost as good as the time he told a kid complaing about his class, "Thats ok, you'll just get dropped out of the honors program". What a ****ing legend.

almost as good as the time my English teacher told some kid that he was a waist of life and breathe

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

almost as good as the time my English teacher told some kid that he was a waist of life and breathe

waste

 

[MechWarriorNY]

@ AuraMaudeGone
That's nothing. I'm of the opinion that most humans can't be trusted to do what's best for themselves(because they never do so), and should NOT be a part of major decisions, because biological intellects will always let their feelings or rampant individuality/hubris/greed/etc. get in the way. Honestly? I'm glad us meat-bags won't have jobs at some point, because that's far less opportunity for us to ruin things like we always do.

...There's 'creepy' for you.

 

[PandaPanda Senketsu]

waste

I guess she wasn't a very good English teacher

 

[AuraMaudeGone]

@ AuraMaudeGone
That's nothing. I'm of the opinion that most humans can't be trusted to do what's best for themselves(because they never do so), and should NOT be a part of major decisions, because biological intellects emotions will always let their feelings or rampant individuality/hubris/greed/etc. get in the way. Honestly?
I'm glad us meat-bags won't have jobs at some point, because that's far less opportunity for us to ruin things like we always do.

...There's 'creepy' for you.

For some reason I imagine a future like that to resemble a live action MMO. Good lord...

 

[SpiderMad]

I came up with a better question to ask people: Least Favorite Pornstar

 

[AuraMaudeGone]

I came up with a better question to ask people: Least Favorite Pornstar

Most Japanese porn stars. Terrible performance is terrible.

 

[PandaPanda Senketsu]

I came up with a better question to ask people: Least Favorite Pornstar

Alexis Texas

oh **** did I really just answer that question

 

[Lizalfos]

almost as good as the time my English teacher told some kid that he was a waist of life and breathe

While reading Taming of the Shrew. My English teacher told us that shrew is a synonym for b***.

 

[MechWarriorNY]

Well, technically, they aren't incorrect, lel

 

[GHNeko]

The super elites (aka have PMS in their name) have a chat system. While it's not google hangouts or something dumb the caste system is beginning.

I'm apart of the PMS chat but I'm not PMS.

 

[Alakaslam]

much throwback many post

Such not see

 

[MLGF]

Most Japanese porn stars. Terrible performance is terrible.

They probably just try to look like weak helpless waifu's because... well as I learned from Smashboards, there's apparently a crowd.

 

[Jaedrik]

I got the same thing.

I think we will move further towards socialism as a reaction to technology, which is ok, technology actually makes socialism more feasible and solves many of its roadblocks.

Then I'm sure you're familiar with this piece, since it's the seminal work on the economic calculation problem. If not, give it a read! It's dense, but only 40 or so pages.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

I'm apart of the PMS chat but I'm not PMS.

Actually, you are. Dumb ass.

 

[Jaedrik]

I should probably give a summary instead of just putting it out there and being like "read this, ****ers".

The calculation argument goes along the lines that there is no method for a socialist system to decide among the various nearly infinite different combinations of capital allocation or usage, meanwhile the price and competition systems of the free market more often nearly find the optimal allocation.

This is due the fact that if higher ordered goods are not permitted to be part of the pricing system via representation as a medium of exchange (hence the title "calculation", since it is only through the medium of exchange that various methods or employments of higher ordered goods may be measured) then there is no way to bid capital away from wasteful ventures to more productive ventures.

Without the pricing mechanism which naturally arises from the free and voluntary interaction of humans, the comrades were groping in the dark, and every socialist system must inevitably fall into this dark place of no-economy.

Edit: Also ayy this TourneyLocator stream is pretty hot with the Project M.

 

[PlateProp]

Hey, if robots taking my job means I can just play smash, why not

 

[Leafeon]

Better get in that electric industry

 

[Lizalfos]

I should probably give a summary instead of just putting it out there and being like "read this, ****ers".

The calculation argument goes along the lines that there is no method for a socialist system to decide among the various nearly infinite different combinations of capital allocation or usage, meanwhile the price and competition systems of the free market more often nearly find the optimal allocation.

This is due the fact that if higher ordered goods are not permitted to be part of the pricing system via representation as a medium of exchange (hence the title "calculation", since it is only through the medium of exchange that various methods or employments of higher ordered goods may be measured) then there is no way to bid capital away from wasteful ventures to more productive ventures.

Without the pricing mechanism which naturally arises from the free and voluntary interaction of humans, the comrades were groping in the dark, and every socialist system must inevitably fall into this dark place of no-economy.

Edit: Also ayy this TourneyLocator stream is pretty hot with the Project M.

I'll read it if you give me a week, it is more like 80 pages and I'm too busy telling myself that I'll actually do my homework at home and not at lunch. But if what I'm getting what you are saying...
In a post scarcity society, money has less value as there is an excess of resources. Basically there is a destruction of the middle class because only the entrepreneurs and idea creators serve a purpose any longer (maybe not even that if AI is developed to the point where it could manage entire businesses). Eventually the only solution is to have the government redistribute wealth because there aren't enough jobs for everyone. Businesses and money might still exist, but only for innovative areas where a product is unique. The major thing is that jobs are scarce and everyone will likely pursue more creative things. Maybe an economy could exist around these creative things, but everyday goods in this scenario are commodities that exist with infinite supply, which means small profit margins, and less private sector interest.

Or maybe we put ourselves into the matrix so everyone can have jobs again, allowing our robot overlords to protect us in our dream state. I don't really know, I'm 15 and even real analysts wrong over 60% of the time when it comes to predictions.

Better get in that electric industry

Renewable energy makes your industry unprofitable.

 

[PMS | LEVEL 100 MAGIKARP]

Technology does nothing to harm capitalism it only encourages national/private/individual investment in education and durable capital goods.

It may provide short frictional or structural unemployment but it won't matter because production as a whole will be more efficient.

Source: currently taking a class in labor economics, this is one of the scenarios we've discussed. Anyway, unskilled service sector jobs will still exist, so the unskilled labor class won't disappear.


ALSO WTF WHY AM I NOT APART OF THE OFFICIAL PMS CASTE CHAT

 

[Phyvo]

As someone who is clueless about what goes on in these parts I am here to say that PMS was an unfortunate choice for an acronym. Having pointed out the obvious I will now leave you all to whatever else it is you do here, good day.

 

[Jaedrik]

Technology does nothing to harm capitalism it only encourages national/private/individual investment in education and durable capital goods.

It may provide short frictional or structural unemployment but it won't matter because production as a whole will be more efficient.

Source: currently taking a class in labor economics, this is one of the scenarios we've discussed. Anyway, unskilled service sector jobs will still exist, so the unskilled labor class won't disappear.


ALSO WTF WHY AM I NOT APART OF THE OFFICIAL PMS CASTE CHAT

Yes.
Progress only means that capital which is freed up may then be employed in satisfying other, lower ordered ends.
Ala the law marginal utility. Which is why minimum wage laws are compulsory unemployment, and why they're silly, since the productivity of the economy as a whole goes up and thus the purchasing power of the medium of exchange.
And why things like the CPI and GDP are silly measurements, since they cannot measure the the essentially qualitative value of money to people, for they pretend there is an applicable quantitative aggregate where there is not.

ALSO YEAH WHY ISNT MAGIKARP IN THE PMS CHAT

@ Lizalfos , I admire that you readily admit that you could be wrong. If you're interested in the point of view expressed above, read up about Carl Menger's theory of marginal utility, and the law of comparative advantage (incidentally not developed by David Ricardo, but instead an academic higher-up of his.)

Oh, and if any of you are interested in the most exciting story of an economist (mystery! intrigue! betrayal! assassination?! he may have fled to south america!), look in Rothbard's History of Economic Thought and go to the section about Richard Cantillon, the first REAL modern economist. ALSO SCREW ADAM SMITH

 

[Lizalfos]

I still think that after technological singularity, humans become obsolete. At that point I think we start seeing a radical change in how the world works economically.
Either:

We live in a post scarcity utopia. Money holds less value, because all consumer demands are met.

or​

Money becomes very important because now people are buying human augments and ****.​

Not seeing how you can say that freeing capital creates jobs with certainty. I could always just invest money into more robots and non-human automated things or IDK, turn a bigger profit.

Humans are terrible, they have rights, cost a lot to keep productive, they unionize. Technological singularity is inevitable, eventually computers will have every edge over humans and will be the best way to accomplish all tasks, even R&D ones. At some point we allow computers to rule us, because they are good at it. Even with transhumanism, it is the machines that are really in charge.

Edit: My question is, after technological singularity, where do humans fit into the economy. No, not everyone can work in restaurants and hospitality.

 

[PlateProp]

As someone who is clueless about what goes on in these parts I am here to say that PMS was an unfortunate choice for an acronym. Having pointed out the obvious I will now leave you all to whatever else it is you do here, good day.

You fail forever

 

[Gamegenie222]

I came up with a better question to ask people: Least Favorite Pornstar

I honesty don't know ATM lol. IF you were to ask favorite porn star ATM that will be a different story.

 

[robosteven]

just got back from writing a few long posts about Olimar in the Tier List Speculation thread, all of which are going generally unnoticed/unrecognized.

I missed this thread.

Anyways, what did you guys think of Steamworld Dig? I liked it.

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

As someone who is clueless about what goes on in these parts I am here to say that PMS was an unfortunate choice for an acronym. Having pointed out the obvious I will now leave you all to whatever else it is you do here, good day.

Obviously you lack the necessary hormonal self irony to be PMS.