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Jigglymaster

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This is so stupid
mii brawler is only good if you can use the upb that actually has kill power to end upair strings, and the sideb that's basically just a better green missile. The down bs are all meh, and the shot put is bad too. The chargeable upercut would be godlike if you could combo into it, and if the air hit had the same knockback as the grounded

This makes me so sad.

#FREEMIIS
woah woah woah woah

I don't know what you're talking about but Down B 2 (Feint Jump) is a god-like move and his 2nd best move overall. Use this move if you feel like having god-like horizontal recovery and a ledge cancel attack that combo's into Helicopter Kick or Piston Punch for the kill. Also, the Uppercut has Super Armor, so use that to your advantage. It's basically a instant f-smash that has super-armor. You'll find plenty of opportunities to charge it.
 

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Is it sad that the only reason I want the PMDT to say "Screw you Nintendo" and add a character from Smash 4 into P:M is because I want the Mii Brawler in
Love Mii Brawler.
2good.
 

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This is so stupid
mii brawler is only good if you can use the upb that actually has kill power to end upair strings, and the sideb that's basically just a better green missile. The down bs are all meh, and the shot put is bad too. The chargeable upercut would be godlike if you could combo into it, and if the air hit had the same knockback as the grounded

This makes me so sad.

#FREEMIIS
Mii Brawler:
Neutral B - Either Ultimate Uppercut or Exploding Side Kick
Side B - Onslaught
Up B - Piston Punch
Down B - Feint Jump (and maybe Foot Flurry)

The way I see it, if you aren't using this set-up for the Brawlers, you're doing it wrong. Easily the most well-rounded group of specials together.

I agree about the aerial Ultimate Uppercut, though. I was so disappointed when i first found out the reason all of my aerial ones didn't KO was because the knockback was significantly different. Not sure what the hell they were thinking with that.
 
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Please tell me why this guy is a TO
It must be a complete ****ing joke
Man, he must be one of those guys who got absolutely molly-whopped by a Link player. xD I love the hate for the Hylian and my fire lizard; it just makes me stronger. Real talk though, guys who have biased or immature opinions like that shouldn't be a TO. Who is he anyways?
 

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Just don't swear too much lol
I used precisely 2 S-words in part 1 (which you should be able to see atm, it's just unlisted until p2 is done), don't plan to swear further. When this thing is done, I'd like it to be the definitive beginner's guide to PM, as well as the definitive Bowser guide.

Something something too close to the sun

UNFORTUNATELY MY MIC SUCKS
 
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I used precisely 2 S-words in part 1 (which you should be able to see atm, it's just unlisted until p2 is done), don't plan to swear further. When this thing is done, I'd like it to be the definitive beginner's guide to PM, as well as the definitive Bowser guide.

Something something too close to the sun

UNFORTUNATELY MY MIC SUCKS
I'd offer to help with your audio, but Calgary is a bit distant for that.
 

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Mii Brawler:
Neutral B - Either Ultimate Uppercut or Exploding Side Kick
Side B - Onslaught
Up B - Piston Punch
Down B - Feint Jump (and maybe Foot Flurry)

The way I see it, if you aren't using this set-up for the Brawlers, you're doing it wrong. Easily the most well-rounded group of specials together.

I agree about the aerial Ultimate Uppercut, though. I was so disappointed when i first found out the reason all of my aerial ones didn't KO was because the knockback was significantly different. Not sure what the hell they were thinking with that.
Helicopter Kick is actually better than Piston Punch IMO. It deals more damage (17% compared to 10%) and it kills much earlier than Piston Punch does, even with the One Inch Punch on PP's side, Helicopter Kick is overall the superior move.

One inch punch only works on the lightest characters in the game and also requires the use of a platform. Helicopter Kick does not care about any of these things and works best at the edge of the stage where you already have stage control. It combos from d-throw up until 60% and it kills in the early 60%.

Also, Ultimate Uppercut was based on Little Mac's KO punch. Super strong on the ground with super-armor, but weak in the air, just like how KO punch has no knockback in the air.

Is it sad that the only reason I want the PMDT to say "Screw you Nintendo" and add a character from Smash 4 into P:M is because I want the Mii Brawler in
Love Mii Brawler.
2good.
Speaking of this, I would actually drop Smash 4 and play PM if they ported Mii Brawler over with his 2122 loadout. He already feels like a Melee character, add wavedashing and he's set. Mostly due to the fact that he'd be treated like a real character over there and top players of that game wouldn't cry about it.
 
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Helicopter Kick is actually better than Piston Punch IMO. It deals more damage (17% compared to 10%) and it kills much earlier than Piston Punch does, even with the One Inch Punch on PP's side, Helicopter Kick is overall the superior move.
Yeah, no. Not even close.

I used Helicopter Kick for the longest time before and while it does a decent enough damage, it's overall knockback leaves much to be desired. Not to mention it's absolutely worthless for recovery and even follow-ups. Piston Punch comes out more quickly, rises up higher and more quickly and definitely kills much more easily and quickly than Helicopter Kick at the top of the screen as well as being significantly more useful for getting back up to the stage versus Helicopter Kick and it's non-existent vertical range.

Helicopter Kick can kill sometimes if it doesn't completely miss to begin with and just end up leaving you open to a counter or helpless to fall and die, while Piston Punch can be more accurately aimed and is pretty much guaranteed to knock the enemy away enough to where you can still get back down to the stage and either be ready for whatever the opponent is going to do, if they aren't already dead, or head back up for another attack.

Piston Punch or nothing at all. Not even debating this any further.

But if I'm sure we can agree on anything, it's that both Piston Punch and Helicopter Kick are significantly better than Soaring Axe Kick aka The only Up-B in the game that can't grab the ledge backwards. ¦D
 

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I know that we don't talk about pm here, but please don't talk about smash4, please.
 

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Alternatively, helicopter kick just isn't good for your playstyle.
I'd imagine that somehow not being able to recover from 2 inches below the ledge would be a detriment to anyone's playstyle.

Seriously, that move just plain does not go anywhere vertically. Maybe a tiny bit somewhere horizontally, but even that ain't much.
 

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Smash 4 talk aside. What exactly was it again that was keeping PM from using Smash 4 characters? Does it even matter anymore since Nintendo is stopping PM from being at APEX? Or would they still get in trouble for trying to do such a thing.

But yeah guys, talking about this here isn't exactly the right place HAHA.

I'll just throw this here for anyone who still wants to talk about Mii Brawler in Smash 4
http://smashboards.com/threads/brawler-style-discussion.357765/page-2
 
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We're opting not to use Smash 4 characters to prevent stepping on Nintendo's toes in a sense and not directly compete against Smash 4.

Nothing draw's a better target on your back than, "HEY. WE BACK PORTED YOUR EXCLUSIVE CHARACTERS AND HINDERED THE REASONS TO PLAY SMASH 4 OVER PM. TEE HEE. U WANNA FITE ME M8?"
 

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Naw, I just wish they'd done/do a better job with XIV. I played it for a while starting at ARR launch (and played XI for a spell before that :x) and ultimately walked away disappointed by XIV despite wanting very much to enjoy it. To each their own though, and I did enjoy watching the vid.
I'm rather curious as to what it is that disappointed you, but after all MMOs will be MMOs and usually people's biggest problem with MMOs is the grind. So if that's not the gripe then lol, idk
The balancing of classes is actually really really good (better than most MMOs anyways) but there isn't a whole lot of variety (yet.)
The story is kind of meh, with meh VAs as well.
Crafting is perfectly perfect in every way possible (unless you hate your crafting to have thought put into it)
Levelling from 1-50 is a real themepark, there's almost no grinding whatsoever on the first character you put through it (level straight to 50 through story, but you do have to grind out your cross-classes and whatnot)
But it's monthly sub rather than what a few MMOs these days do with one-time payments.

Not too much to be disappointed for-- the content is incredibly hard in endgame, unless you wait until you're capped on gear before you go in.
If you saw in the video we were nearly dying to just the simple mechanics lol But that was a hella clean run with only one death.
 

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We're opting not to use Smash 4 characters to prevent stepping on Nintendo's toes in a sense and not directly compete against Smash 4.

Nothing draw's a better target on your back than, "HEY. WE BACK PORTED YOUR EXCLUSIVE CHARACTERS AND HINDERED THE REASONS TO PLAY SMASH 4 OVER PM. TEE HEE. U WANNA FITE ME M8?"
I still say this is being overly paranoid. If they were going to do anything about PM, they would've started with actually taking serious measure to stop Brawl hacking in it's earliest stages or at least when model imports became a thing. Hell, they would've stopped Brawl+. You guys have literally nothing to worry about. Besides,

You guys have Mewtwo and now he's confirmed for Smash 4. Better take him out, too. ¦D /sarcasm

Now stop making excuses and put Mega Man in already. D<

Jokes aside, Mega Man is literally the only Smash 4 character I'd seriously care about being in PM, but done in a totally different way that makes him able to combos like everyone else.
 

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I'd imagine that somehow not being able to recover from 2 inches below the ledge would be a detriment to anyone's playstyle.

Seriously, that move just plain does not go anywhere vertically. Maybe a tiny bit somewhere horizontally, but even that ain't much.
It goes about half of battlefield at full length.
it's vertical recovery is bad, but not as bad as you make it out to be.

paired up with feint jump, the only thing that might give trouble with recovering is an early spike.
Then again, considering how air dodge works, one shouldn't be getting spiked that early
 
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Project M stops being a trailblazer if all it does is try to copy SmUsh, then people can legitimately say PM is doing an inferior moded take on a character who can do way more cool looking things without those pesky engine limitations. PM Mega Man would look very sad in comparison.

It only opens up more community criticism and takes away from the uniqueness of the product.
 
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It goes about half of battlefield at full length.
it's vertical recovery is bad, but not as bad as you make it out to be.

paired up with feint jump, the only thing that might give trouble with recovering is an early spike.
Then again, considering how air dodge works, one shouldn't be getting spiked that early
Feint Jump isn't going to help you recover vertically, that's for sure. Well, not without a wall, anyway.

But I'm talking later percentages. Anytime I have been knocked down and only had a second jump and HK to use, 8 times out of 10, it didn't work. Piston Punch, on the other, would work just fine even without using the double jump.

Project M stops being a trailblazer if all it does is try to copy SmUsh, then people can legitimacy say PM is doing an inferior moded take on a character who can do way more cool looking things without those pesky engine limitations. PM Mega Man would look very sad in comparison.

It only opens up more community criticism and takes away from the uniqueness of the product.
I actually meant in the sense of PM Mega Man not even having a literally completely different moveset from Smash 4's, but okay.

Never thought of PM as a "trailblazer" nor do I think that really matters, but if you say so I sure won't argue over it. I was just messing around anyways.
 

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I'm getting my GC Adapter on the 7th.

which one of you nerds wants to play netplay with me when that day comes.

Also the amount of Shantae love in AGDQ stream chat is amazing.
 

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>Ghost in the Shell film
>Cast Scarlett Johansen as lead

Yes, because when I think of Motoko Kusanagi, that's the first person that comes to mind. Urghhh
 

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Just because I play FFXIV more seriously than I play smash...

:<

plsnohatethoitskindarude

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nope not gonna happen

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Knuckles deconfirmed
Time to tell the Smash 4 Social Thread
*sad music*
I missed the original content of this post by a long shot, but as a mod of the sub, I have to sympathize. Man we have to remove so much leak discussion. It's a total pain in the ass.
 

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I don't know if there is a woman alive who could play the Major's part convincingly. Equal parts sex goddess and tough as nails infiltration specialist.

And there isn't because its a prosthetic body.
 
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Can we talk about how ridiculously quick and easy you can mash out of grabs in PM not even using TAS. When is that getting fixed. Like why are pummels even if the game if you aren't supposed to use them
 

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Because rather than a real grab break mechanic, you have this move you need to always try and fail to mash out of (don't like mashing in fighting games generally) for the person being grabbed, and the grabber is just adding a few points extra of damage before doing the throw move you were planning to do in the first place.

Not much is lost if you couldn't pummel. And everything Drinkingfood said.
 
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