Project M Social Thread Gold

[DrinkingFood]

Pummels are really hit and miss as a mechanic. For some characters individually that have good quick combo/kill/etc throws, pummeling is relevant because mashing risks throwing off DI if the grabber throws early, and the threat of that can scare people into not mashing as hard as they could and taking more damage.
But there are characters with no throws that are either fast enough to not be reactable once the throw animation itself starts, or with throws that aren't a very big threat when misDI'd. And then there's also the fact that you should always be mashing face buttons anyways so that part of the mechanic is still unnecessarily there to extend the length of possible pummeltime for stupid opponents only. Melee/PM are also in a weird place where the extra 3/6/9 damage you could get off the pummels doesn't matter that much because avoiding a return to neutral during your punishment is more feasible so you don't have to fish for awkward kills very often where that little percent makes the difference. The valuable interplay to the mechanic is the whole stick mashing vs DIing part, where the grabber can risk the release for extra damage and the grabbed can risk extra damage for good DI, so the whole face button mashing thing is just there because...? Also stick mashing on analog sticks really shortens their lifespans....
That said, PM doesn't really need to go reinventing that formula, I just want to have it where pummels are usable under like 70%.

 

[Nixie]

I swear the mii brawler is like the only character I can have fun with in Smash 4.

 

[Bleck]

Sounds good to me.

 

[Vashimus]

Lucario's lightning-fast pummel in 2.1 was funny as hell.

 

[GHNeko]

I only play SMash 4 for megaman lel.

 

[Strong Badam]

Do you have one of those hdmi wii adaptor things?

You should throw some links out

Avermedia live gamer portable. Component to hdmi lagless

 

[teluoborg]

But if I'm sure we can agree on anything, it's that both Piston Punch and Helicopter Kick are significantly better than Soaring Axe Kick aka The only Up-B in the game that can't grab the ledge backwards. ¦D

Save for Ike's up B, the move the axe kick inspired.

Yes, Ike could grab the ledge with a reverse up B in Brawl, and he can in PM too.

The valuable interplay to the mechanic is the whole stick mashing vs DIing part, where the grabber can risk the release for extra damage and the grabbed can risk extra damage for good DI, so the whole face button mashing thing is just there because...? Also stick mashing on analog sticks really shortens their lifespans....
That said, PM doesn't really need to go reinventing that formula, I just want to have it where pummels are usable under like 70%.

But dear sir, the most optimal way to mash in Brawl and PM implies holding your analog stick in a fixed direction and not moving it at all so you can have an optimal DI and an optimal mashing.

 

[SpiderMad]

There should be audio cue music start called "Mash now" when DK cargos you, alerting the casuals to attempt to escape their cheesy stage spiked demise. Most still know to wall tech it though; but there's like two different ways to do it on them and if you throw'em good depending on the stage you can get them still locked under I think.
@ teluoborg What method are you talking about?

I also realized something. I could be replying to other people's AMAs and make them my own AMA. Everything that's related to them I would just answer "I don't recall doing that".

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Save for Ike's up B, the move the axe kick inspired.

Yes, Ike could grab the ledge with a reverse up B in Brawl, and he can in PM too.

I'm well aware that he can do that in Brawl and PM.

I was not aware, however, that he couldn't in Smash 4. Haven't used him much, but I just tried it.

Ugh...

 

[Choice Scarf]

http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/ability-play-bowser-has-made-our-society-more-evil-1644

Someone is probably mad he keeps getting Bowsercided on For Glory

 

[| Kailex |]

Is this known yet? found a way to keep holding greninja's side-b without it automatically making greninja use the move after a short amount of time, which makes him walk around with it indefinitely, unless hit.
And i accidentaly made greninja run with his side-b but i don't know how i did it.
@ Strong Badam being the froggy main, is this known?

 

[teluoborg]

@ SpiderMad it's the Brawl Cstick mechanic that makes the game check the analog stick one frame after reading a Cstick input.
So if you're holding the analog stick and flicking the Cstick you'll get 2 inputs for every Cstick input. Only condition to that is the analog and C sticks must be pressed in different directions
That's partly what makes mashing and SDI so easy in Brawl, and that's also the mechanic behind the doop walk, the Anytime Foxtrot™, and the easy modo moonwalk in PM.

http://smashboards.com/threads/dual...-breaking-momentum-cancelling-and-sdi.315154/

 

[Yung Mei]

Is this known yet? found a way to keep holding greninja's side-b without it automatically making greninja use the move after a short amount of time, which makes him walk around with it indefinitely, unless hit.
And i accidentaly made greninja run with his side-b but i don't know how i did it.
@ Strong Badam being the froggy main, is this known?

nice froggy :3

shes my main in Hisoutensoku

 

[| Kailex |]

nice froggy :3

shes my main in Hisoutensoku

avatar sauce is nsfw

 

[Yung Mei]

i know

whacky suwaky is the best frog girl

 

[teluoborg]

Speaking of Soku, hype or not about 14.5 ? I'm gonna be delusional and hope they fix the terrible physics from hopeless masquerade. Also hype for new characters no matter if the game is trash or not.

 

[Empyrean]

@ | Kailex | Yes that is known.

Also I'm pretty sure SB stopped maining Greninja like 3 months ago.

 

[| Kailex |]

lel I'm too late

 

[PootisKonga]

I think my brother just made a Smashboards account

Be warned; he watches mostly the same things I do but is a bigger anime fan than I am
He can also seem kinda random at first

 

[Kushina43]

So this is the legendary Super Smashboards Project M social thread

Pleased to make your acquaintance

Edit: Dammit mobile

 

[PootisKonga]

You're really doing this? Especially with that avatar?

 

[Cedstick]

So this is the legendary Super Smashboards Project M social thread

Pleased to make your acquaintance

Edit: Dammit mobile

It moves a mile a minute during the day/evening, so enjoy being timely while you can. I just kinda' watch it all go by, like a tornado. It's... interesting.

 

[Kushina43]

First impressions are important.

 

[robosteven]

Lucario's lightning-fast pummel in 2.1 was funny as hell.

I want them to bring it back but just do like 1% damage per pummel or something.

Lucario pummel mashing was my favorite the best grab/throw option in the game.

 

[Comeback Kid]

So this is the legendary Super Smashboards Project M social thread

Pleased to make your acquaintance

 

[Frost | Odds]

You're really doing this? Especially with that avatar?

SIblings that play the same character?

That's so adorable I can't handle ittttttttttt

 

[Kushina43]

We like a lot of the same things to the point that it sometimes creeps us out lol

 

[CORY]

I want them to bring it back but just do like 1% damage per pummel or something.

Lucario pummel mashing was my favorite the best grab/throw option in the game.

iirc, it would actually deal less than 1% per pummel, but worked out in the end through dps, basically. i also enjoyed it alot, it was super silly : p

 

[shairn]

First things first

Who's your waifu

 

[Kushina43]

First things first

Who's your waifu

Mizore Shirayuki, hands down

 

[| Kailex |]

do you rant about falco?

 

[shairn]

Mizore Shirayuki, hands down

Oh boy

 

[Kushina43]

do you rant about falco?

No, but I personally don't particularly like his pillars

 

[Shadic]

Welcome, newbie.

I'll be your god.

 

[Kushina43]

Welcome, newbie.

I'll be your god.

You'll have to share that distinction with Arceus and Pain

 

[shairn]

@ SpiderMad Might want to add ledge hop bair autocancel to your list of hard things to do with Bowser

 

[GrosMinou]

hey S H A I R N B O Y, are you coming to the weekly?

 

[shairn]

hey S H A I R N B O Y, are you coming to the weekly?

I'm not going to any tourneys until June or so

 

[MechWarriorNY]

Welcome, brethren of Pootis.

Enjoy your stay, huh huh.

...Time for some mood whiplash, got a fair bit of very edgy stuff in the 1st spoiler here. Should skip it, folks.

Spoiler

Smash 4 talk aside. What exactly was it again that was keeping PM from using Smash 4 characters?

Nothing but the back room being a bunch of slaves to PR.(http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlaveToPR)

Cowards.

Wow xyro really? Wat a **** eh m8 ah'll hook 'im rite in the gabber i will

Not how things work; you have beef with someone? Don't bother talking. Don't make threats. ...DO make an example of all the idiots you have a problem with.

You want to throw hands at someone?
Do it with no warning, no apparent provocation, and no holds barred, so that your foe will be hard-pressed to retaliate, or already K.O.'d/dead.

People's opinions are unrelated to their ability to TO. So he won't run PM, and that's the extent of that. He's entitled to it.

That's not how things work. It's just that no one has shut that brat up yet, but they will.That everyone is allowed to have an opinion, or that they even should, is a rather unfortunate lie to children and an error that will soon be corrected on a species-wide scale.
Well, that and more.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Spoiler

...I have vitriol to spare and many directions I like throwing it in, not new, but I gotta stop being a Templar about it lol

 

[SpiderMad]

@ SpiderMad Might want to add ledge hop bair autocancel to your list of hard things to do with Bowser

Ledge drop DJ Bair or Ledge jump Bair? And just for whatever reason what stage did you do it on.