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I didn't say stale-moves was good??? :confused: I just said people should play around it...
Made clear of some things and basically just proved my point in that it seems just really confusing and I won't get it.
Saying things like (the snip of your quote) can be said about CCing, but you're contradicting arguments are scattered all throghout the examples you give of things.
We'll just agree to be at odds with this. haha
 

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I still think Smash 4 is garbage, glitch ridden, terrible 1 players modes, awful controls, horrible items, op rolls, huge blast zones, and finally I hate how easy it was to unlock every single character. That last reason pretty much removed the whole reason to play the 1 player modes, when I first got brawl I blasted through that game trying to unlock all the characters and I found that really fun.

Hopefully the Wii U version is better
 
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And this is what people being mad PM not being there and throwing death threats at Alex caused.

Well done the people who I know did this.

You sicken me.
 

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I hate how easy it was to unlock every single character. That last reason pretty much removed the whole reason to play the 1 player modes, when I first got brawl I blasted through that game trying to unlock all the characters and I found that really fun.
unlocking characters in Brawl was actually easier than it was in Smash 4
 

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I have no idea, but I guess it happened. He's not pointing fingers at any community which is nice, but we all know who and what it's getting associated with now, and this is uh, far from the best of news.

It was bad enough that strife was getting threatened, but his friends too? I'm pretty disgusted at the people who did this, I sure hope they think it was worth it! God, almost want to puke.
 
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@ Bleck Bleck (and whoever was arguing with him)
Out of curiosity, I decided to look up some actual statistics on Brawl sales, Melee sales, and sales of their respective systems.

Since its release in late 2006, the Wii has sold about 101.2 million units as of the end of September. By contrast, from its release in late 2001, the Gamecube sold about 21.74 million units until it was discontinued in 2007.

Brawl is the Wii's 9th best-selling game, while Melee was Gamecube's #1. As of March 31, Brawl has sold 12.14 million copies worldwide since its 2008 release, while Melee sold over 7 million copies as of March 10, 2008 since its 2001 release, which is both a fairly comparable sales timespan, and the latest sales stat we have for Melee, probably due to its discontinuation.

These statistics in mind, we can see that about 12% of Wii consoles had a Brawl disc to go along with it, while about 32% of Gamecube consoles had a Melee disc attached.

That means that Melee only sold a bit under 60% as well as Brawl did, but it did so with about 21% the install base.

I'm not gonna draw conclusions about this here, but given all the talk about sales and success going on, I figured some hard numbers might help to have an actual discussion.
 
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So anyone else think Twitter has just been disgusting the last few days? Not because of the actual idiots, but all the preachers who claim to be better than everyone else blowing up the situation?
I wasnt reading this thread when it happened, but when PM was deconfirmed for Apex I saw way more people were just straight up sad and disappointed than people who were pissed. And then I go on twitter and everyone is talking about how PM players are acting vile and stupid.
 

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People are POS and don't care about others when something doesn't go their way with the internet as a guise. Downright pitiful
 

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Wtf? Sending death threats over a mod? I'm passionate about my community, but holy **** that is over the top. To all you people sending these death threats:

Get the **** over yourselves. Crazy bunch of *******s. It's a mod that didn't make it in unfortunately. There are always other tournaments like Xanadu. You don't do the PM community any favors by threatening peoples' lives. You make others form a general blanket statement thought process about how scummy the PM community is by doing this. You don't speak for us. I hate what you stand for.

Edit: Just checked his Twitter. What the flying **** is wrong with people? Sending **** threats to the Brawl female TO? That's some low level scummy ****.
 
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I feel sad about this... it make me more sad that this is, sadly, shape how I see the PM community for a while... I know ...some of you aren't bad but.....I'm not sure now. Im sorry. Dont yell at me for this.
 
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For some reason I get the feeling that people who don't even like project M might of sent these threats in order to make project M players look bad.

Call me a conspirator.

In fact, I'm pretty confident in that claim.
 
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It could be a number of factors or people, but what matters is that it's going to trail all the way back to one group of people regardless of fact or investigation because of the initial stigma and how it went down.

This really, REALLY, REAAAALLLLYYY sucks.
 

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So Alex says it's not just the threats (which are incredibly stupid but very predictable) but the depression and stress he feels about the whole backlash.

Which I don't think would have happened much if at all if there was a desire to come clean about the whole thing early rather than keeping these things hidden for so long (and still keep it a mystery) and fester into a backlash.
 

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No matter how he handled it, the fact that it ****ing happened is disgusting and right now I don't think it's a good idea to draw away from that.

It grew into a much larger problem when his friends ended up getting involved.
 
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For some reason I get the feeling that people who don't even like project M might of sent these threats in order to make project M players look bad.

Call me a conspirator.

In fact, I'm pretty confident in that claim.
That and, y'know, some people are completely pants-on-head ****ing stupid enough to make those threats. It's the Internet, as Gamegenie said, where assholery is permitted and nothing is forbidden.

Smooth Criminal
 
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So Alex says it's not just the threats (which are incredibly stupid but very predictable) but the depression and stress he feels about the whole backlash.

Which I don't think would have happened much if at all if there was a desire to come clean about the whole thing early rather than keeping these things hidden for so long (and still keep it a mystery) and fester into a backlash.
the backlash wouldn't have happend if everyone took a breath and calmed down...
 

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I guess this just boils down to the most obvious philosophical statement anyone could ever make.

Anonymity is both the greatest and worst thing to happen to mankind at the same time.
 

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Bleck, just so we have our facts straight, you DID see the Iwata quote about how Wii was a failure, despite it's sales-numbers, right?
yeah I'm not gonna engage on this 'cause there's basically no way for me to respond without implying that you can't read
 

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the backlash wouldn't have happend if everyone took a breath and calmed down...
No, I refuse to buy into the bull**** narrative that PM players are scum for being upset and voicing their opinions about something they are passionate about. Nothing wrong with that.

But if people want to lump everyone together because of a few idiots causing trouble, let them go for it. Doesn't mean we have to buy into it for appearances sake.
 

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I guess this just boils down to the most obvious philosophical statement anyone could ever make.

Anonymity is both the greatest and worst thing to happen to mankind at the same time.
Im not even in this community and this is making me sad. Its sad that this will tarnish the PM community hardcore and Im sorry that it happened. Dont kill me for this, but stuff like this makes me change how I see this community.
 

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Regardless on your position on a game 64/Melee/Brawl and PM(but it's a mod lolol don't care it's in own entity at this point) if you love it or hate it you don't threaten people end of story just cause you didn't get your way. It's understandable that PM isn't there if Nintendo is help sponsoring the event I came to terms with that I just wanna kick it with folks, have a good time, nerd out with Nintendo characters and have a good day. Stuff like this make people don't wanna get interested and turn them away. Smash brothers are great games and series but the fanbase can downright be idiotic as all hell. I don't blame Alex Strife one bit after the next Apex if he wanted to bounce after all this childish behavior and because of this the PM scene and some of the developers are gonna be branded like scum.

There was a problem fetching the tweet
 
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This isn't about people being upset, well, I guess it is. It's more the way they went about it.

For the record I don't condone that line of thinking either, it's just going to be really hard for you to convince me that people AREN'T gonna associate this with P:M.

Im not even in this community and this is making me sad. Its sad that this will tarnish the PM community hardcore and Im sorry that it happened. Dont kill me for this, but stuff like this makes me change how I see this community.
It's gonna change how a LOT of people view this community, believe me.

Also why would I say P:M players are scum? I'm simply implying that a lot of people associate this issue with P:M because it is what STARTED it.

I love P:M, always will. It got me back into Smash and for that I cherish it, which is why this happening is a heavy blow, both because Alex Strife was incredibly passionate and because even if he says to love every community, you know people aren't going to.
 
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No, I refuse to buy into the bull**** narrative that PM players are scum for being upset and voicing their opinions about something they are passionate about. Nothing wrong with that.

But if people want to lump everyone together because of a few idiots causing trouble, let them go for it. Doesn't mean we have to buy into it for appearances sake.
I didnt say you all were scum, you all are nice people but some need to calm down.. Im sorry if I offended you. Really sorry
 
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Damn, reading some of the things I've seen people post through the boards (not just about apex) the smash community is going to die a lot quicker than I thought if we don't get our **** together. It makes me sad.
 

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People wer also threatening to **** the Brawl TO if they ran into her irl.

It's pretty disgusting at what people are doing after this backlash.
 

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I don't think the smash community would die out, rather a huge rift would split the community into like 4 different pieces.
 

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Worst part about it is that 99% of people who posted things like that wouldn't even go through on a threat like that let alone say it in person, but the words alone do enough damage as it is.

I got a feeling this might be interpreted badly so to clarify, I mean that it's just a bunch of people blowing hot air but it's able to have a big impact.
 
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