xANDERssbb
Smash Journeyman
Yo pik do skull kid next! PLEASE!!!!
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Project GENO - MarioDK Demo out
- Thread starter Shadic
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Matteron
Smash Ace
xANDERssbb
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, but i wonder if he could do it better? maybe fix the hat and the hair. 
TheShuckler
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You wouldn't have to do this if Square wasn't a bunch of jerks.
Necro Toad
Smash Apprentice
Piks,
Perhaps if we had done the Geno on another character, that has a cape (like Ike, Marth ...), we could make a model with a better cape?
I'm not criticizing your work, I thought brilliant! I'm just trying to understand how the vertex hack works!
Perhaps if we had done the Geno on another character, that has a cape (like Ike, Marth ...), we could make a model with a better cape?
I'm not criticizing your work, I thought brilliant! I'm just trying to understand how the vertex hack works!
Shadic
Alakadoof?
This project is on.
Okay. Who knows PSA well? We've got stuff to do. Steal Lucario's Beam for Geno, among other things.
Also, I have an idea for shooting bullets - TSON - Can you see if you can remove the limit for only 2 bombs?
Okay. Who knows PSA well? We've got stuff to do. Steal Lucario's Beam for Geno, among other things.
Also, I have an idea for shooting bullets - TSON - Can you see if you can remove the limit for only 2 bombs?
![[TSON]](/data/avatars/l/114/114196.jpg?1360761019){kind=avatar}
[TSON]
Hella.
You can't. Item's limits are somewhere else lol
Piks
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I personally think that counts as critique, but there's nothing wrong with that at all. Constructive Critique is good for you.
Anyway, if I did it on Marth or Ike he would be giant. I can't change size through vertexing, the problems if I did that would be miles worse than the motion problems that would occur on TL.
Though looking back, I guess I'll try the second strand on TL.
Anyway, if I did it on Marth or Ike he would be giant. I can't change size through vertexing, the problems if I did that would be miles worse than the motion problems that would occur on TL.
Though looking back, I guess I'll try the second strand on TL.
ds22
Smash Lord
May I suggest something?
Could you do the PSA over Lucas?
You can basically switch over the Geno model over Lucas, so that's not a problem (and Lucas animations fit Geno better).
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Animations aren't an issue at all. And why would I want to replace Lucas?
Toon Link has over 100KB I can add to his pac. That's incentive for me to keep using him.
Toon Link has over 100KB I can add to his pac. That's incentive for me to keep using him.
ds22
Smash Lord
I thought about Pik's Young Link, but nevermind then.
Senjen
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it's great to see the vertex done the texture needs a little bit of work
and geno should have his second curl only if it's possible to add it ...
reference picture http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll197/Mr_Chunnin/Geno.jpg
as well as a picture of when kirby steals geno's powers if you think of making it ...
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x53/ssbb-kirby/Geno.jpg
and geno should have his second curl only if it's possible to add it ...
reference picture http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll197/Mr_Chunnin/Geno.jpg
as well as a picture of when kirby steals geno's powers if you think of making it ...
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x53/ssbb-kirby/Geno.jpg
Piks
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Could you be more specific about the texture issues?
I'll fix some issues up by the release of v2.
Here's a list of likely edits:
Second Strand
Arm Cannons for the PSA, though Shadic would have to modify it so those polygons only show during the attacks that use it.
Texture fixes? I'll try making the hat clearer.
me said:
I'll fix some issues up by the release of v2.
Here's a list of likely edits:
Second Strand
Arm Cannons for the PSA, though Shadic would have to modify it so those polygons only show during the attacks that use it.
Texture fixes? I'll try making the hat clearer.
dirtboy345
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well about the texture its a little darker and to look like the reference picture it has to be more blue
Ninka_kiwi
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My reaction to piks vertex.
YES YES THIS HACK IS DELICOUS
YES YES THIS HACK IS DELICOUS
ds22
Smash Lord
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8u7px_GzWQMy reaction to piks vertex.
YES YES THIS HACK IS DELICOUS
(Another quote from the same man)
this makes me sad, happy, and mad.
it makes me sad cuz i know that even though these hacks will be awsome, and we'll get to play as geno finally, its still just a hack, which means it won't be mainstream/pretty much strictly for fun and lols.
it makes me mad, because it reminds me that nintendo didn't add one of the characters most deserving to be in brawl(but then again.....looking at how lousy a smash game brawl is compared to the other two...maybe thats not so bad, so they didn't tarnish geno's image like they did the rest of the cast)
and it makes me happy cuz.....ITS FREAKING GENO!!!! I FINALLY WILL GET TO PLAY AS GENO IN SMASH!!!!!!!111111111 MAH HAPPIEST DAY EVA!!!!!!!!!!!11
on a side note;
always the ness mains.....who are freaking haxorz geniuses
it makes me sad cuz i know that even though these hacks will be awsome, and we'll get to play as geno finally, its still just a hack, which means it won't be mainstream/pretty much strictly for fun and lols.
it makes me mad, because it reminds me that nintendo didn't add one of the characters most deserving to be in brawl(but then again.....looking at how lousy a smash game brawl is compared to the other two...maybe thats not so bad, so they didn't tarnish geno's image like they did the rest of the cast)
and it makes me happy cuz.....ITS FREAKING GENO!!!! I FINALLY WILL GET TO PLAY AS GENO IN SMASH!!!!!!!111111111 MAH HAPPIEST DAY EVA!!!!!!!!!!!11
on a side note;
always the ness mains.....who are freaking haxorz geniuses
Eldiran
Smash Lord
Pik's hack is super amazing -- even using Toon Link's moveset it looks and behaves like Geno.
If you guys need help accomplishing something with the PSA, I'd be glad to lend assistance.
If you guys need help accomplishing something with the PSA, I'd be glad to lend assistance.
Akuma2120
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Wouldn't resizing the bones fix the problem?
Shadic
Alakadoof?
You have no idea how hard I'm going to hit you up on that offer.
Do you have AIM or MSN? I think I've seen you on IRC from time to time, but eh.
Piks
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Yeah, if you guys need PSA help, Eldiran is the man.
Anyway, I tried giving him the second curl.
As you can see, his vertex weights make the hair go all over the place. In order to null them I had to disable his waist, left shoulder, left arm, left elbow and hand's movement. But hey, you guys got what you wanted! A second curl.
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3765/curll.png
He's mostly paralyzed though. It's not going to work.
Anyway, I tried giving him the second curl.
As you can see, his vertex weights make the hair go all over the place. In order to null them I had to disable his waist, left shoulder, left arm, left elbow and hand's movement. But hey, you guys got what you wanted! A second curl.
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3765/curll.png
He's mostly paralyzed though. It's not going to work.
Eldiran
Smash Lord
Good attempt, Pik. I honestly didn't even notice he was lacking it.
@Shadic: Feel free to. I am easiest to contact via PMs (here, at smashmods, or at KC:MM), but I am online late at night on AIM. PM me if you want my screenname. Lately I've also been on Skype during the day, too, but we'll see how long that lasts.
@Shadic: Feel free to. I am easiest to contact via PMs (here, at smashmods, or at KC:MM), but I am online late at night on AIM. PM me if you want my screenname. Lately I've also been on Skype during the day, too, but we'll see how long that lasts.
Necro Toad
Smash Apprentice
Shadic:
Should we not start discussing the moves of Geno? I have several ideas and I believe that many here, on the topic, should have too!
I like your idea of GenoBoost, but as the special moves lose strength when Geno is in the air, I believe that leaving the Geno stronger in the air is not very helpful! I thought that, perhaps, UpB could be in the style of Ivysaur's UpB. basically Geno shoots one of his hands, which grabs the edge! something like this:
Should we not start discussing the moves of Geno? I have several ideas and I believe that many here, on the topic, should have too!
I like your idea of GenoBoost, but as the special moves lose strength when Geno is in the air, I believe that leaving the Geno stronger in the air is not very helpful! I thought that, perhaps, UpB could be in the style of Ivysaur's UpB. basically Geno shoots one of his hands, which grabs the edge! something like this:
Piks
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Speaking of arm abilities, I made this for some of his attacks. Just make the sword hilt usually invisible and it'll work. (though you also need to size-mod his hand to .1 its size, then make the sword 10 times larger)
I'd support that tether idea by the way. It looks awesome :D
I'd support that tether idea by the way. It looks awesome :D
Necro Toad
Smash Apprentice
Piks, I have no words to describe it! you're doing a brilliant job!
Senjen
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i thought of something couldn't you just put a line between that one hair strand and give it the allusion of two hair strands? kinda like the lines of the mouth?
also i support that geno tether grab idea
amazing job on the gun part piks ^^
also i support that geno tether grab idea
amazing job on the gun part piks ^^
^ya this
i'm no hacker at all so IDK how you'd do it, but couldn't it be possible to just kind of split the curl in the middle so it looks like 2?
...........I check this thread every day for weeks and very little happens and I stop checking for a week to move (from NY to redmond, WA) and something actually gets done? (If anyone is interested I moved to go to college at Digipen)
That is really an impressive hack. I mean a model import would obviously be ideal but it's leaps and bounds better than what we had.
I absolutely think we need to have a chat room discussion on his moveset. Obviously everyone has ideas and I think to get the best results we should try and take in as many ideas as possible. We should have a firm master blueprint before anyone does too much work.
I like the idea of a tether edge grab but I hate it when a tether takes up a character's Up Special, I think it should definitely be a Z air.
Oh also, what is the limit of bombs you can have out at once?
Er also also, splitting the curl in two wouldn't make it look any more accurate basically.
That is really an impressive hack. I mean a model import would obviously be ideal but it's leaps and bounds better than what we had.
I absolutely think we need to have a chat room discussion on his moveset. Obviously everyone has ideas and I think to get the best results we should try and take in as many ideas as possible. We should have a firm master blueprint before anyone does too much work.
I like the idea of a tether edge grab but I hate it when a tether takes up a character's Up Special, I think it should definitely be a Z air.
Oh also, what is the limit of bombs you can have out at once?
Er also also, splitting the curl in two wouldn't make it look any more accurate basically.
Shadic
Alakadoof?
I'm fine with just curl.
Tether arm Zair works, but I'd like it to only actually grapple when Geno can get the edge - have to see how that'll work with Eldiran.
Gun-Arm looks amazing, Piks.
Tether arm Zair works, but I'd like it to only actually grapple when Geno can get the edge - have to see how that'll work with Eldiran.
Gun-Arm looks amazing, Piks.
Piks
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Thanks guys. I really don't think splitting the hair with a texture would work out, it'd look like a highlight more than anything else.
This is also an interesting possibility! I had my own ideas for his moves: For example, his entry could be a twinkling star going down into Geno's limp/inanimate body, then he'd rise up, strike a short pose, and assume his idle stance.
hmm.....so then is it at least possible to just put the single curl in the middle? it just....looks really off when its to the side like that, imbalanced basicly
again, i'm not even remotely close to a hacker(my knowledge of "hacking" games, was basicly a game shark for n64 or AR for gcn and looking up codes online, to "hack" the games...thats the extent of my "hackign" knowledge) but i'm just curious(sure its already been answered a few pages back but i don't feel like looking it up/probably won't answer my question completly) but...why is it that you CAN'T add the other curl? and does this also mean that the current one might not be able to be put in the middle?
I'm serious...it just looks....really off with one curl on one side but nothign on the other to balance it out....
again, i'm not even remotely close to a hacker(my knowledge of "hacking" games, was basicly a game shark for n64 or AR for gcn and looking up codes online, to "hack" the games...thats the extent of my "hackign" knowledge) but i'm just curious(sure its already been answered a few pages back but i don't feel like looking it up/probably won't answer my question completly) but...why is it that you CAN'T add the other curl? and does this also mean that the current one might not be able to be put in the middle?
I'm serious...it just looks....really off with one curl on one side but nothign on the other to balance it out....
Piks
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I always saw his curls positioned more to the left, so I tried putting my curl in the middle of where I thought the two would be - I'm able to move it if you guys really want me to.
And about adding the second curl, I just explained that on the last page.
There's pictures, a brief explanation of how it couldn't be done, what are you still wondering? I mean, feel free to ask if there's more, but you simply asked me why I couldn't add it.
And about adding the second curl, I just explained that on the last page.
There's pictures, a brief explanation of how it couldn't be done, what are you still wondering? I mean, feel free to ask if there's more, but you simply asked me why I couldn't add it.
Necro Toad
Smash Apprentice
Yes, I agree with you that it's bad to lose a B move with that!
But my problem is about GenoBoost. I think he is very different from Mario RPG. does not make much sense use this move like a recovery for Geno, since it don't launch Geno in the air on Mario RPG.
Maybe this move can be more time based, like the original one. For example, when Geno use this move, he can stay a little more stronger for a shot time, according to the Timed Hit success.
and then, we can use a different move for his recovery!
Shadic, care to set any sort of official date or venue for such a gathering? This would go much more smoothly and would be much more decisive in a chat room. A character only has so many moves so really we'd only have 20 or so items to go down one at a time. Oh and Piks' suggestion for a entrance is about as perfect as Geno could get.
@Necro Toad
Well this is why I suggest a chat room so things like this can be discussed at a faster pace with a little more clarity. Anyway I agree that it's not exactly accurate. I'm sure there are other options.
@Necro Toad
Well this is why I suggest a chat room so things like this can be discussed at a faster pace with a little more clarity. Anyway I agree that it's not exactly accurate. I'm sure there are other options.
Piks
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Well guys. Here's a quick chat room:
http://widget-cdn.meebo.com/mcr.swf?id=vGZiYdckdK&eurl=
http://widget-cdn.meebo.com/mcr.swf?id=vGZiYdckdK&eurl=
Nessgod
Smash Cadet
You could try using Kirby's Entry or Samus's, it'd be ALOT easier as a starting point
Um random here but a question about the cosmic geno download, what do I name it? I've never had any previous version of it so I can't tell what exact file it is. I tried naming as FitToonLink.pac and it froze, FitToonLinkmotionetc.pac and froze my game. So I'm assuming I need another file for it?
Matteron
Smash Ace
no, It's not like cosmic geno is a model psa yet, even if pik's hack is out...
No I mean the download name itself, for cosmic geno. When I download it it's called CosmicGenoversion1.18, I know it works but it's that I don't know what to rename it. And I know it needs a fitmotionetc and a FitToonLink.pac and it only comes with one of them. You should put both files in a zip like in the fighter geno download.