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KevinM

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@Mod Is july in prod range yet?

July? Hello paging July sup witchu July?

What's your thoughts on

Kingmaker

Zen

OS

How good I look in flannels

IN THAT ORDER
 

KevinM

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hint: I look great in flannels.

More votes on Zen IMO.

BSL don't start being grimy you're the apple of my eye!
 

#HBC | Gorf

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I stopped playing a long time ago due to frustration, but I'm giving mafia a second chance.

Since I came back, I've replaced into HunterxHunter, hydra'd with Xonar in LoL uPick as RainbowFingers, and then this game.

:phone:
I feel you bro, I hope this doesn't give you a bad impression of mafia, but it's just the kinks of getting a scum role ya feel me?
 

Ramen King

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Assuming we lynch town everyday:

SK kills mafia during n1
6 v 2 v 1 D1
5 v 2 v 1 N1
5 v 1 D2
4 v 1 N2
3 v 1 D3


Sk hits bulletproof n1/Mafia continue to cooperate N2
6 v 2 v 1 D1
5 v 2 v 1 N1
5 v 2 v 1 D2
4 v 2 v 1 N2 (Best for SK to aim for same target)
4 v 2 v 1 D3
3 v 2 v 1 N3

Note: SK would know 1 scum and would be trying to get them lynched.



Sk hits bulletproof n1/Mafia do not cooperate N2
6 v 2 v 1 D1
5 v 2 v 1 N1
5 v 2 v 1 D2
4 v 2 v 1 N2 (Best for SK to aim for same target)
4 v 1 D3
3 v 1 N3
2 v 1 D4

SK hits town N1
6 v 2 v 1 D1
5 v 2 v 1 N1
4 v 2 v 1 D2
3 v 2 v 1 N2
2 v 2 v 1 D3

OK just now taking a look at the actual number. OS what are you even talking about. Your probability stats twist the whole goal of the game. It's not to increase our chances of randomly lynching scum. It's to get rid of scum as soon as possible lmao. We DO want SK to hit scum the first night. I know you are smarter than this lol wtf? And show me these so called accuracy stats xD. o god
 

#HBC | BadWolf

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OS who do you make king today?
What? No! We can't do this. It's a very bad play. Like the math that OS himself put forward: we have a 40% chance that we will hit scum with this. I'm not willing to accidentally put the killing command in the hands of someone who doesn't have the same intention as town.
 

Ramen King

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Kuz: I'm putting OS as scum a long with Kevin strictly for playing anti-town. OS' propositions are so anti-town. I'm usually able to see his logic, but there is no logic here. None of what he has proposed increases towns chance of winning. He is trying to get town to increase scums chance of winning by painting it as "increasing scums chance of winning increases towns chance of winning" which is just lolworthy. Kevin has so far done absolutely nothing but make weak posts with regards to myself and buddy scum. I feel he is trying to chainsaw for OS.

Vote: OS

BSL vote OS if you want to live. It only makes sense to lynch someone who's alignment you don't know over town lynching you when you know you're town, correct?
 

Ramen King

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Post more:
6. BadWolf28738
1. soup
7. Gorf
8. July
9. BSL

Die more:
2. Overswarm
3. KevinM

Live more:
4. th3kuzinator
5. Ramen King
 

#HBC | BadWolf

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Badwolf what are your reads?
soup-Null town
Overswarm - Null; I feel as if there are thoughts going in his head however I'm not sure of who they are going for. I want some actual questions from him and not a plan on how to win. We need content.
KevinM - Null-scum He's anti-town and I'm almost positive that he can play better than this. Pick it up man.
th3kuzinator - Null I like him but I'm not sure of what to make of him. I'm trying to think logic not emotions right now.
Ramen King - Null town.
BadWolf28738 - God like
Gorf- Needs to post more
July - See Gorf
BSL- Town.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Badwolf I just gave you a hypothetical gun. Who do you shoot right now and why?
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Zen, should I read the OS walls or skim off what you've already presented? I promised Kuz a read so :I
 

Ramen King

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Absolutely no need to read it. There's no content in it. The logic if false. I was going to say that it may even be anti-town to read his walls.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Liking kuz. Liking his vote.
Likiing Gorf. Liking him and his vote.
I think we can get along this game.
Badwolf leans null and a dash of scum. What's your townread on him for?
July is Null.
BSL is scum.
OS could(?) be scum.
I don't get your gripe with Kevin.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Zen said:
Kuz: I'm putting OS as scum a long with Kevin strictly for playing anti-town. OS' propositions are so anti-town. I'm usually able to see his logic, but there is no logic here. None of what he has proposed increases towns chance of winning. He is trying to get town to increase scums chance of winning by painting it as "increasing scums chance of winning increases towns chance of winning" which is just lolworthy.
I mean yea, but no... Just no... It might be cuz I haven't read ALL of what he said, but for what I have read it really makes more sense to look for the SK at this point rather than the scum team, and if OS feels he has a way of doing that than there's no chance that that's a scum play. In fact, the mere fact that you're so abrasive about him just being wrong is striking a nerve. Not a big one, but one of those tiny insignificant ones, ya feel me?
 

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He's proposing that it's better for us if SK doesn't kill mafia right away. And no we shouldn't be looking to lynch SK first. We should be looking to lynch mafia first.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Absolutely no need to read it. There's no content in it. The logic if false. I was going to say that it may even be anti-town to read his walls.
Okay, I wanted to discern the intent behind them anyways besides the fact it's a giant wall. What's his scum intent to post useless walls as such and create plans that likely half of the town will not follow? I'm pretty sure if me you kuz and gorf all are town this game is won.

I'm gonna get to something else I wanted to talk about so don't leave just yet.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Badwolf is a player that is more indicative of alignment on his attitude. What's the tell in his attitude towards the game? Is him trying to focus on important matters more telling for the town side, or scum side? One thing I noted is that Badwolf shrugs off a lot of content for the sake of wanting get down to the grit of things.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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He's proposing that it's better for us if SK doesn't kill mafia right away. And no we shouldn't be looking to lynch SK first. We should be looking to lynch mafia first.
Naw maybe it's just a line of opinion but whenever these ******** "mafia has no kill but a 3rd party DOES" games come up I've always felt it'd be in all but the SK's best interest to get rid of the SK first. And yes, even though it does technically benefit mafia, town should still be all for it, since it benefits us too. There's this thing called Day play where if we do it right we can fish out scum without that additional possibility of kills putting a dent in town.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I'm attempting to pressure BW. I picked him randomly from a list (using a series of coinflips), and I am trying to bait him into thinking I'm serious.

RVS stuff.
You were claiming to wanting to shoot Badwolf and apparently you don't have any reads either. Your vote on badwolf is artificial and even at the stake of claiming RVS, you have not unvoted him. It must suck being scum.
 

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It really doesn't matter which of them we lynch so long as we lynch one of them. We should want SK to target mafia however and SK should want to target them.
 

th3kuzinator

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HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT MUST BE SCUM

but also lets not even talk about kingmaker anymore it wont work because at least me bw and zen are against it. lets not make this into a BiM conversation ya dig?

gorf wuts ur read on OS, KevMO and Soup?
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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You've also changed your stance on BW about three times now, one starting off as policy, the second starting off as a joke, and the third, the holy revelation: You were only baiting him into thinking you were serious. Starting off as policy isn't serious and you were claiming RVS just a moment ago. I don't know what your deal is this game but you just happened to contradict yourself four times in one instance. Please show me what town wouldn't be sure of his own intention to push something or lie about them. Then tell me your partner.
 

Ramen King

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Badwolf is a player that is more indicative of alignment on his attitude. What's the tell in his attitude towards the game? Is him trying to focus on important matters more telling for the town side, or scum side? One thing I noted is that Badwolf shrugs off a lot of content for the sake of wanting get down to the grit of things.
I feel that he is excited about his role. And that he is tired of being scum so many times. I also feel that the way he is following his own values is indicative of town alignment. The fact that he targeted me right out of the gate and is fighting against OS' anti-town proposals.
 

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soup youre forming your posts more craftily kudos on getting better at wording things but youre really not striving towards anything with your posts currently so you should do that b4 i think you're bussing bsl :)
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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If kuz is indy this game is ****ed.

@Zen ninja

I don't like his current quota and lack of accurate stances. It's not out of reach but that's why I asked the hypothetical gun situation. Why does Gorf always just post like town? It's something about him...
 

#HBC | Gorf

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It really doesn't matter which of them we lynch so long as we lynch one of them. We should want SK to target mafia however and SK should want to target them.
Naw that compete cooperate thing kinda hurts that SK-kills-mafia logic.

OS is whutevz, KevM is leaning town, and Soup is solid town. You?
 

#HBC | Gorf

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You've also changed your stance on BW about three times now, one starting off as policy, the second starting off as a joke, and the third, the holy revelation: You were only baiting him into thinking you were serious. Starting off as policy isn't serious and you were claiming RVS just a moment ago. I don't know what your deal is this game but you just happened to contradict yourself four times in one instance. Please show me what town wouldn't be sure of his own intention to push something or lie about them. Then tell me your partner.
Woah I dunno anymore man my head it's hurting :scared:
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I'm attempting to pressure BW. I picked him randomly from a list (using a series of coinflips), and I am trying to bait him into thinking I'm serious.

RVS stuff.
soup youre forming your posts more craftily kudos on getting better at wording things but youre really not striving towards anything with your posts currently so you should do that b4 i think you're bussing bsl :)
It's what on my mind at the moment and posting off memory and feelings I get from that. I actually was going to multipost quote a couple of things but I got lazy about it. I guess I can appeal to your concern.
 
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