Prisoner's Dilemma Mafia- Fish

[th3kuzinator]

To do what, satisfy your curiosity? That's not how I play. If something's worth pushing, I'll push it. If it isn't I'll hunt for information or the best strategy until I can push it. You can deal.

No so you can actually put some content on the board so others can read you because you've given us nothing all game. And you clearly had me as an indy read fairly early in the Day. Given your mentality on indy's I'd expect you to have started pushing me already, since I'd be worth pushing. Granted, you're right that its probably now to late to swing it, but you did have ample time earlier this Day. Yeah, you were fried from mafia, getting a wii U, some other excuse but you've clearly put load of effort into other games so you couldn't have been that dead.

 

[th3kuzinator]

We have 36 hours. I want everyone reporting in on their thought on July and Gorf.

 

[Overswarm]

No so you can actually put some content on the board so others can read you because you've given us nothing all game. And you clearly had me as an indy read fairly early in the Day. Given your mentality on indy's I'd expect you to have started pushing me already, since I'd be worth pushing. Granted, you're right that its probably now to late to swing it, but you did have ample time earlier this Day. Yeah, you were fried from mafia, getting a wii U, some other excuse but you've clearly put load of effort into other games so you couldn't have been that dead.

Effort into other games is exactly why I'm fried. =P

 

[th3kuzinator]

If you are town this D1 lynch matters to some extent. What are your thoughts on who the lynch should be between Gorf and July? If you're mafia feel free to keep being apathetic cuz that's all I'm seeing right now.

 

[Overswarm]

If you are town this D1 lynch matters to some extent. What are your thoughts on who the lynch should be between Gorf and July? If you're mafia feel free to keep being apathetic cuz that's all I'm seeing right now.

I'm trying to figure out the answer to that question and get reads on those pushing those wagons, that's why I asked specifically about it. I'll let you know when I get the answers, more than likely with my vote.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Regardless, Gorf or July is the lynch for toDay and you've already expressed that you don't want Gorf lynched. Be it V/LA or whatever your reasoning your going to have to make a choice unless you want a NL which would be terrible.

I can agree to this.

Vote: July

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Kuz posted a wall on me. Fun.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Why are you skimming? You seem to be giving adequate activity in other games and, since this certainly isn't a huge D1 (and most of the early game is just OS' walls anyway) I see no reason why you can't find the time to produce activity here. I mentioned before you seemed too sporadic and worried about your image before, but now you've seemed to go to the complete other side of the spectrum. Whether that's in direct response to my callout or your disinterested in this Day (as scum would be D1), I don't like it.

I skim all my games. Either alignment. If there is a need to go more into things then I do it. Nothing has catched my eye as of late but something that did was what Zen brought up. I'm getting to what you said right after wrt my 'contradiction.'

You see though, Soup, you were already ready to switch to Gorf before Zen posted reasoning on Gorf.

This should be good.

So you clearly had the idea that that Gorf was scummy before Zen posted the contradiction on which you're basing your reasoning as a crutch. Well you might say that you only said that you'd want lynch Gorf over July, you've said multiple times that you can't read July (null) and that you had Gorf as town previously because of reasoning similar to mine. You even ask Zen in your next post if he will collaborate with you to lynch Gorf before he posted reasoning.

You're right. I did have Gorf as town, but if the stake was between July and Gorf, I would lynch Gorf. You and a couple of active posters were talking about the probabilities and I butted in to give my opinion.

That wall was good, and I'm glad you put the effort into showing that. The meat of it all is really that I'm at my ends wit however and I agreed with what Zen posted prior. I wasn't leaning on BSL being scum anymore and everything else seemed so far away. I agreed and wanted to lynch Gorf after my own reads changed. I'll read him again and see if anything holds up if you want, but my second option is Badwolf. I know I've said I'm leaning noob town on him with some things, but this is just another case of a read changing. I think one holds scum. Do you agree?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'll be the gentlemen and explain why I want Badwolf. He's been avoiding Gorf hapharzardly and basically trying to ignore the issue. Even now, he goes for the vote over July before Gorf. He has not cared for the current discussion between players about Gorf and he has just changed his vote over to July once people have shown more interest to lynch him. That's bad. That's not bad town looking for a herd, that's scum realizing a deadline is coming up and jumping on what's best. Can you tell me what his reason for voting BSL was before? Sure. Can you tell me why he switched it over to July? No. There isn't a clarified stance in there and I wanted to lean on the fact of Badwolf just being dumb. I change my mind about this and I believe he is being more opportunistic. He posted a line of your logic and said 'lol ok.' You could say I did the same but the fact remains that I clarified and left more open to it. Badwolf, explain why you're voting July over Gorf. Give your reads.

I really want Badwolf more then Gorf, but I have already told you my theory regarding them. I'm going to read Gorf one more time.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

What really bothers me is that Badwolf just drops whatever steam he had on BSL. He didn't give a reason for it, he just flopped onto July all willy nilly without a reason behind it. It's like the vote on BSL didn't mean a damn, even then he made himself clear that he wanted him. What changed? I couldn't tell you.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Here comes Badwolf to defend himself

sound the trumpets

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

I'll be the gentlemen and explain why I want Badwolf. He's been avoiding Gorf hapharzardly and basically trying to ignore the issue. Even now, he goes for the vote over July before Gorf. He has not cared for the current discussion between players about Gorf and he has just changed his vote over to July once people have shown more interest to lynch him. That's bad. That's not bad town looking for a herd, that's scum realizing a deadline is coming up and jumping on what's best. Can you tell me what his reason for voting BSL was before? Sure. Can you tell me why he switched it over to July? No. There isn't a clarified stance in there and I wanted to lean on the fact of Badwolf just being dumb. I change my mind about this and I believe he is being more opportunistic. He posted a line of your logic and said 'lol ok.' You could say I did the same but the fact remains that I clarified and left more open to it. Badwolf, explain why you're voting July over Gorf. Give your reads.

I really want Badwolf more then Gorf, but I have already told you my theory regarding them. I'm going to read Gorf one more time.

......

Have you read anything that I've posted? Like ever? I posted about 5 times on this one issue right here. Just saying go back and read harder.

I'm not even going to go into this.



damn right sound the trumpets.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Listen.

I have problems with lynching V/LA's. That's all there is to it. Right now I don't want to lynch Gorf just because he's not here. I'm more ok with lynching July as she has had more time to actually play and hasn't. Again I would rather lynch BSL but as of this point I really don't see it happening.

unvote.

All you gotta do is believe. Seriously, why? Against lynching V/LA's is the only purpose? If you wanted BSL lynched you didn't do anything to get that lynch. You have to give people a reason to lynch someone. This priority change is what bothers and again, Badwolf is ignoring Gorf. I'm not going to make this into a case rather I want answers from you.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Badwolf, I have not seen you talk about Gorf all game. Not even in the slightest. I can go off memory and say that there isn't anything I recall making a stance towards him. Why are you ignoring him?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

July is just getting into the game. You literally chose the two people with the least amount of posts and went "Hey you're dead now!"


Actually just checked. July has least, Gorf has third least. Surprised you don't have Kevin on your table.

This is your reasoning for not lynching July.

I can agree to this.

Vote: July

This is your vote on July. What changed? Am I missing something? You didn't want to vote July because she had the least content, and suddenly you change your mind and You're okay with it? Do you want neither of them?

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

All you gotta do is believe. Seriously, why? Against lynching V/LA's is the only purpose? If you wanted BSL lynched you didn't do anything to get that lynch. You have to give people a reason to lynch someone. This priority change is what bothers and again, Badwolf is ignoring Gorf. I'm not going to make this into a case rather I want answers from you.

One sec I'm trying to remove my face from my palm....


You seriously don't know anything about me do you?
And seriously I don't want to lynch Gorf. He hasn't given me anything to go against him on... He's alright with me...

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You're playing this weird bias with players. You want BSL first but you drop it. You want KevinM second but you don't do anything regarding him. You hardly post and half of the things don't make near sense of how you reached your conclusion. This is one of them. Why did you change your stance and vote July???

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You didn't show any reason for unvoting BSL besides 'not being able to get him.' You didn't pursue your second scumpick or question him. You went against your own logic to vote July near a deadline. You hardly post and went away after you had a scuddle with BSL. What are you doing this game?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

One sec I'm trying to remove my face from my palm....


You seriously don't know anything about me do you?
And seriously I don't want to lynch Gorf. He hasn't given me anything to go against him on... He's alright with me...

July is just getting into the game. You literally chose the two people with the least amount of posts and went "Hey you're dead now!"

Care to explain why you're playing a confirmation bias?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Kuz, is Badwolf bussing July?

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

You're playing this weird bias with players. You want BSL first but you drop it. You want KevinM second but you don't do anything regarding him. You hardly post and half of the things don't make near sense of how you reached your conclusion. This is one of them. Why did you change your stance and vote July???

5 words.

I don't want a NL.

Well technically 6 but **** it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

unvote
Vote: Badwolf

I, for one, will see that you get the noose. Pony.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

5 words.

I don't want a NL.

Well technically 6 but **** it.

48 Hours is a long time to determine a lynch. Why aren't you pushing Kevin? BSL? I'm about to get you lynched.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

unvote
Vote: Badwolf

I, for one, will see that you get the noose. Pony.

I'm going to go drink for about an hour and then see if anything that Soup has just said makes any more sense to me than it did on the first read.



I'm ok with being pony

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You have literally ignored Gorf this whole game trying to say 'oh he hasn't posted much and he's null...' yet he was clearly here and posting about your scum-pick, BSL! Why does this not matter to you????/

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

48 Hours is a long time to determine a lynch. Why aren't you pushing Kevin? BSL? I'm about to get you lynched.

We have less than 48 hours....

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You got me. You're still not commiting to what you said and hopping a wagon which recently, you showed disdain against. Your hop is opportunistic and you're still ignoring the main issue. Respond to me sufficiently.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

You got me. You're still not commiting to what you said and hopping a wagon which recently, you showed disdain against. Your hop is opportunistic and you're still ignoring the main issue. Respond to me sufficiently.

One last time. Then if anyone else asks me I'm going to shoot someone.

And that was not a claim... I will come to your house and shoot you.

However, the full reason that I'm voting July as opposed to Gorf is very simple. July has had a longer time to get into the game, considering that Gorf's Grandmother is in the hospital due to accident. I'm cutting him slack because of that reason. I really don't want a NL and it wouldn't get us anywhere with the Day. I would rather have someone who I see as null-town lynched than ending the day without any info. If Gorf is still gone toMorrow then yes I wouldn't mind lynching him just to get the possibility that he is scum out of the way.

Good? Cause I'm not doing it again.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Having a pony avatar and being name BadWolf doesn't make your threats very...threatening. That doesn't explain why you've ignored Gorf this whole game. Try again.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Having a pony avatar and being name BadWolf doesn't make your threats very...threatening. That doesn't explain why you've ignored Gorf this whole game. Try again.

Cause he's posted a tiny amount? It's kinda hard to pay attention to something that doesn't exist if you catch my meaning.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

No he hasn't.

 

[KevinM]

Soup is leaning town for me currently. Not a strong lean but enough of a lean that I don't understand the complete 180 from Gorf where he could read so hard as scum then read harder into town.

The fact that he can 180 like that on a slot as unclear as Soup's is a big ol red flag for me.

Gorf is my lynch today mang, I can't read July, I'll give you my hand on it if it comes down to it but when I feel I have an actual scummer pinned down it's hard to just leave it because I can't read the other slot.

 

[July]

Hi, sorry a fever/sore throat combo left me kinda incapacitated the past couple days, need to read up.

 

[BSL]

Activity & effort ≠ town even though I agree that OS' lack of viable content is scummy. Can you remind me of your read on July?

Didn't have one other than null at the time. Lurky was all I had.

After Zen highlighted your case against her and made his own, I can back a scumread on her.

 

[BSL]

So if our only choice is between Gorf and July, I'll put my vote on July.

If we could swing to BW I would be pretty dang happy.





Soup, cool that tunnel engine you've got there. I like your push, but it seems like when you think you've found scum, you lose focus on the rest of the game.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I have plenty of focus on the game. I don't tunnel without reason or ignore other things. I'm not that player. As far as you know I could be feigning it for reaction.

 

[July]

I'm going to have to admit, despite starting the Gorf wagon I'm not too happy that the swing is between either me or him. He is V/LA and while I don't like his play all that much I don't think it's enough to justify lynching him. Obviously I'm not a fan of the lynch being on me but I'd like really like another option.

I would probably vote for BW since he's in my null area, only other person I could really see myself wanting to vote for would be Zen but I don't see that wagon picking up steam. But still, that doesn't make it any less true.

Zen, despite what you say you are being cautious. You threw a kind of weak suspicion on me and when I responded you literally did nothing until Kuz and I engaged in our long conversation and you saw how HE felt about me before you made your own comments and started pushing for me or Gorf. Kuz is wrong but he's definitely not scummy, you have just been cautious and scummy.

Unvote
Vote: Ramen King

 

[th3kuzinator]

FuFUFUFUUFUuFUUU

 

[th3kuzinator]

July are you here? Can you talk to me?

 

[July]

I'm kinda here, but only for about 10 minute, I have a group coming over for a project. What's up?