Prisoner's Dilemma Mafia- Fish

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I don't think Badwolf or BSL are scum to be honest.

 

[Ramen King]

Ok Badwolf but you see I'm saying vote Gorf OR July. You're completely ignoring July lol.

 

[Ramen King]

Soupa reasons please.

 

[th3kuzinator]

But gorf is town tho

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Reading back on BSL's arguments make me lean town on him. I agree on the disposition and I didn't mind his arguments. I don't feel Badwolf/BSL make sense, and especially not when Badwolf just randomly votes BSL for no transparent reason. Why are you defending Gorf, Badwolf?

'Cause there's really no way of him defending himself and he hasn't had that many posts to begin with. It's just choosing a random V/LA person to lynch. I really don't like it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Badwolf doesn't come off as fake and BSL seems more of the vibe of new townie. He's Indy if anything because he isn't playing like a member right now. He hasn't really pointed to anything besides Badwolf and they've got this weird thing going on with each other. Badwolf just voted BSL again despite a wagon beginning to form on Gorf/July. The play doesn't make sense and I think Badwolf has a legitimate reason behind the BSL vote.

 

[Ramen King]

Soup remember our newbie with Badwolf though? He did the same thing to Bardull the entire game using a bunch of reasons that seemed mad newb townie of him. The fact that he ignoring every other single player this game and choosing to focus on BSL with quite poor reasoning doesn't sit well.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I get that. They're not aligned is what I'm trying to say. If opportunity comes and we had to lynch one of them, I would be perfectly fine with going back on it. I think BSL is more on the indy based on self-preservation, and Badwolf being more on the mafia scum side.

Gorf/July team doesn't make a near lick of sense btw. That's why I want to consider those options again.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'd lynch Gorf over July.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Ok Badwolf but you see I'm saying vote Gorf OR July. You're completely ignoring July lol.

July is just getting into the game. You literally chose the two people with the least amount of posts and went "Hey you're dead now!"


Actually just checked. July has least, Gorf has third least. Surprised you don't have Kevin on your table.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

soup bby whyd you ignore this?

I didn't it mattered but uh

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Badwolf, who is BSL's partner?

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

KevinM is my second scum pick.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Did you ever give a reason?

 

[Ramen King]

Badwolf, this is my personal reasoning for Gorf:

gorf wuts ur read on OS, KevMO and Soup?

OS is whutevz, KevM is leaning town, and Soup is solid town. You?

A few posts later after he sees Kuz pushing Soup:

Before I go to bed:

SK: Zen if BSL is mafia.

Mafia: BSL, Soup.

Gg?

Yeah just no. His reasoning is that he saw soup make a post calling out BSL which Soup had already been doing xD.

Furthermore he gives an SK read for me on the CONDITION that BSL is mafia. That makes no sense haha. If he were to say Zen MAFIA on the condition that BSL is mafia, that would make sense. You understand? It's not random, he's just a scum dude.


Also badwolf you need to stop being afraid to pressure lurkers. Scum are the most inclined to lurk. If I have town reads on everybody that is posting, then obviously someone who isn't posting is likely scum. That isn't just the case here, however, Gorf and July are actually scummy.

(another thing to note is that number of posts doesn't describe content. July has more content than gorf even though she has fewer posts. I just wanted to point that out to you)

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

yo zen can we lynch gorf

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

that's a bad ninja

Vote: Gorf

Zen, Gorf flips scum. Who's the partner?

 

[Ramen King]

By scum, I'd assume you're specifying mafia? If he were to flip mafia, the only person I currently see as a possible partner is KevinM.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yeah, Mafia Scum.

I'm going to get more into this once BSL updates his read list.

 

[th3kuzinator]

i wont let gord lynch happen he town.

why u trying to ml zen.

 

[Ramen King]

gorf scum bro. And he's your indy read.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I don't get why you're town-reading Gorf.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Cuz his demeanor is carefree and unconcerned. hes not trying that hard and he looks like he's just crusin' along. he only gets tactical and manipulative as scum.

i dont get why you're scum reading him. he's clearly not playing scummy, just careless

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It's really just how I feel about him, there's a couple of things I like and some things I don't. What I really want is more from certain players and go from there. BSL needs to update his read list and we'll see how Gorf reacts to all this.

 

[KevinM]

Kuz I'm gonna say Gorf be scum on this one bro bro.

 

[th3kuzinator]

why? he hasnt been playing scummy at all? what happened to your zen read? youre not taking a firm stance at all man y errone bein oppertunistic

 

[BSL]

I understand the push on Gorf, but not July. Can someone sum up why she's scum? It doesn't make sense to me.

July null

BW scummy

KevMo scummy

Zen towny

Kuz towny

Gorf towny (I'm trusting Kuz's read more than anyone else's. He's null to me otherwise.)

Soup towny

OS scummy

 

[th3kuzinator]

gog and now im doubting my bsl read everyone just looks so forced

 

[Ramen King]

*Trusts Kuz' read on Gorf despite everyone else against it*
*Doesn't trusts Kuz' read on July despite everyone else being for it*

 

[Overswarm]

I agree with Zen's statement on Kuz's indy read earlier.

Kuz what is your indy read, or did I miss it?

 

[BSL]

*Trusts Kuz' read on Gorf despite everyone else against it*
*Doesn't trusts Kuz' read on July despite everyone else being for it*

I don't understand the push on July. Could it be explained to me? I'm not saying she's not scum and you guys are wrong, I just don't understand it.

I understand the push on Gorf and why Kuz has a town read on him.

 

[KevinM]

why? he hasnt been playing scummy at all? what happened to your zen read? youre not taking a firm stance at all man y errone bein oppertunistic

My reads list before the gorf choochoo train has been in motion had Zen as a lean towards nonbro while Gorf was in the MegaNonBro pile

So.....

I don't see where you're seeing me not take a firm stance in killing off my scum read.

Your Move BOBBY FISCHER

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I understand the push on Gorf, but not July. Can someone sum up why she's scum? It doesn't make sense to me.

July null

BW scummy

KevMo scummy

Zen towny

Kuz towny

Gorf towny (I'm trusting Kuz's read more than anyone else's. He's null to me otherwise.)

Soup towny

OS scummy

That didn't tell me anything.

 

[th3kuzinator]

My reads list before the gorf choochoo train has been in motion had Zen as a lean towards nonbro while Gorf was in the MegaNonBro pile

So.....

I don't see where you're seeing me not take a firm stance in killing off my scum read.

Your Move BOBBY FISCHER

Just because you put him on a reads list as scum doesn't mean you've explained why you think he's scum. I think we've all gone over how we want more than him but I'm directly asking you why he's playing scummy and not just careless. And, I'm asking you, do you still think Zen is scum?

 

[th3kuzinator]

That didn't tell me anything.

Can you stop being useless? Do you have a read on July and OS?

@Gorf: Give me something to work with here man you're up for lynch if you don't start posting.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I agree with Zen's statement on Kuz's indy read earlier.

Kuz what is your indy read, or did I miss it?

Have not divulged it yet.

 

[th3kuzinator]

It's really just how I feel about him, there's a couple of things I like and some things I don't. What I really want is more from certain players and go from there. BSL needs to update his read list and we'll see how Gorf reacts to all this.

I'm all for pressure to make certain things happen but there happens to be two days before deadline and, with the activity of some of this playlist, a switch has to happen sooner than later if it is to even happen at all. You're basically saying here that you don't find Gorf that scummy, it's just you don't have that much from him. We'd get tons more utility out of lynching someone who could actually pop scum or that would have connections. Gorf town flip will leave us nowhere going into D2 because everyone can explain their stance on boarding the wagon so easily.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I understand the push on Gorf, but not July. Can someone sum up why she's scum? It doesn't make sense to me.

July null

BW scummy

KevMo scummy

Zen towny

Kuz towny

Gorf towny (I'm trusting Kuz's read more than anyone else's. He's null to me otherwise.)

Soup towny

OS scummy

Can you explain your OS read please?

 

[th3kuzinator]

The **** being the random choosing of a V/LA person to lynch, it's what got us lynched last game. I am not ok with lynching Gorf.

I almost won my first newbie. That was one hell of a game. And I'd rather have Gorf around than BSL at this point.

Then can I count on your vote on July?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I would vote Badwolf if it makes you feel better. I hopped off BSL because of my own reasoning. I don't like how Gorf handled the BSL situation or me frankly, and something else that attributes to that is what Zen already pointed out regarding BSL. I feel like Gorf has plenty of things to go off of if he gets lynched but I won't decide where I truly go with this until I get a sufficient response. I hate to do this but there is not a need to be useful when you are waiting on other players to do the same. I don't have anything specific to really comment on.