Prisoner's Dilemma Mafia- Fish

[th3kuzinator]

Assuming a Zen lynch can't be swung toDay you'd want BW correct? Like BW, Zen and Gorf are your scum reads?

 

[th3kuzinator]

And can I get your opinion on BSL?

 

[July]

BW is honestly more of a null read, but I'm super not thrilled about lynching Gorf on the information we have, I don't think it's fair. Zen is honestly my biggest scum read right now, I'm going off a little bit of gut/meta but I don't feel like this is town Zen, he's being too cautious and playing backseat to you and OS to a great extent despite asserting he has strong reads. That's not the Zen I expect to help town win a game.

As for BSL, I read through his more recent stuff and I think that his early game might have just been the result of pressure/him being flustered. Despite me busting on him for messing up a pressure vote, I attempted a pressure vote on a scum lean (Gorf) and it ended up going far beyond what I intended. My vote was not with the intent to lynch, it was with the intent to pressure and I'm not sure how people have developed such a strong desire to lynch him when he's done nothing new to increase suspicions on him, and that also makes me nervous that his wagon took off when so few people expressed any concern over Gorf before I did and I openly admit my suspicions were preliminary.

 

[July]

If you have any other questions for me leave them here and I'll try to get to them tonight or tomorrow morning.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Ok.

Unvote; Vote: Ramen King

That's my indy read

 

[th3kuzinator]

Actually trying to swing this lynch no fooling. I know KevMO is down if it comes down to it since he previously said Zen was scum and still has him as a scum ream. I'm also pretty sure Gorf will follow along if he gets back. That's 4. I'd only need to persuade one more which I'll starting doing soon after I grab some dinner. Regardless someone will switch onto him to save a NL regardless.

This can work. KevBRO you down?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Also July's last two posts were incredibly townie if it isn't obvious by now.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ok.

Unvote; Vote: Ramen King

That's my indy read

omg Kuz what the hell why can't we just get along ugh what do you think of Pony boy over there

 

[Ramen King]

Ok.

Unvote; Vote: Ramen King

That's my indy read

The heck man?

 

[Ramen King]

Request Deadline Extension


Incredibly busy. Chem Test and 15 minute Japanese presentation tomorrow. Both which are going to take all night working on.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Request Deadline Extension!

 

[Ramen King]

Why are you voting me and being a douchebag while you're at it?

 

[Ramen King]

Vote: Gorf

 

[th3kuzinator]

Why are you voting me and being a douchebag while you're at it?

Well thats certainly a strange reaction. Why so aggressive, I've been nothing but cordial?

 

[th3kuzinator]

I mean I guess you're lashing out cuz scum? But seriously wtf thats just so weird of you to say...

 

[Ramen King]

You offer to be bros and then stab me in the back when I've supported you all day. By being a douchebag I'm referring to your utter disregard for the stuff I presented on Gorf and OS which were actually legitimate. You just painted it off as weak and moot.

You can't even give a reason as to why you think I'm scum. I'm tired of being lynched like that.

Who do you have as mafia? OS and who?

 

[th3kuzinator]

omg Kuz what the hell why can't we just get along ugh what do you think of Pony boy over there

Cuz Zen is indy and by OS' logic that means he has to die first! I'm reading him as town right now but I feel like I might be underestimating him as a player and thus taking noob tells as legit when I shouldn't be.

 

[Ramen King]

Don't like July. Don't like Gorf. Don't like Kuz.

Soupa switch back onto Gorf with me or why can join OS and try and take out Kuz.

 

[Ramen King]

we *

 

[th3kuzinator]

You offer to be bros and then stab me in the back when I've supported you all day. By being a douchebag I'm referring to your utter disregard for the stuff I presented on Gorf and OS which were actually legitimate. You just painted it off as weak and moot.

You can't even give a reason as to why you think I'm scum. I'm tired of being lynched like that.

Who do you have as mafia? OS and who?

I had you as indy since your second or third post! I can show you my personal QT with notes to prove it! I just didn't want to let you know so you'd help me push my lynches without resistance, which I've said multiple times. Rather have you on my side fighting mafia and then lynch you later than fight with you from the getgo. Only problem is, since I realized I misread July, both lynches I'm looking at right now are unacceptable so I thought I'd unveil my indy read sooner than expected.

And wow, AtE much? Mafia is a game of deceit and ulterior motives. You should know that better than anyone. Your reaction and tone reek of nervousness and haste which is something I doubt you would have done as town.

And wow, I'm a douchebag for saying your stuff on OS and Gorf wasn't legitimate?

...

Like, are you being serious? No way that response is real. Just because I'm contending it doesn't have merit doesn't mean that I'm attacking you as a player, I'm just saying that I think your information is moot. I've even thoroughly explained why it is moot, not just dismissed it with a wave of my hand.

You're floundering right now my dude. Wagon HOOOOOO!!

 

[th3kuzinator]

Don't like July. Don't like Gorf. Don't like Kuz.

Soupa switch back onto Gorf with me or why can join OS and try and take out Kuz.

Your opinion of July didn't change from her last few posts at all? Then why'd you switch to Gorf?

And lol @ trying to secure other players to bank off OS. You're being so transparent.

 

[Ramen King]

I aint even floundering though >.>. I just think you're a douche for acting like you were my bro. And can't even give the courtesy to give some reasoning to your read. Not sure if you're rusty or what, but your read is way off. I've been pretty darn townie this game.


Can't lynch July without support. You were the support. Like Gorf less.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Like can I just re-iterate something?

You offer to be bros and then stab me in the back when I've supported you all day. By being a douchebag I'm referring to your utter disregard for the stuff I presented on Gorf and OS which were actually legitimate. You just painted it off as weak and moot.

You can't even give a reason as to why you think I'm scum. I'm tired of being lynched like that.

Who do you have as mafia? OS and who?

You're a douchebag because you don't agree with me (despite me justifying at length why I don't). Ad Hominem.

"I'm tired of being lynched like that." Glorious AtE.

And btw Zen, I said I'd work on why you're scummy when I got back from dinner. Well I'm back now and I'm working on it so sit tight for me babe

 

[Ramen King]

You're not a douche if you're scum though only if you're town.

Give your reasoning kuzi baby.

 

[Ramen King]

Nah Kuz I really am tired of being lynched like that. You wouldn't understand because of your hiatus. I keep getting lynched with no bases.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Regardless of my alignment I've been playing fine. Instead of overreacting like crazy just prove me wrong.

And the Kuzi baby to cover it up. Cutie

Same question to you tho, who's the mafia team now? Gorf x July?

 

[Ramen King]

Lol you're turning everything I say into "an overreaction".

 

[Ramen King]

Did you give me who you think is mafia?

You seem to have a town read on everyone / null scum read on OS?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Everyone should be requesting deadline extensions!

And cuz it clearly is! I get the ad hominem in game but still bros out of game but I expected better than that from you regardless of alignment, Zenny. I think you'd do it way less as town tho

 

[Ramen King]

I think you're definitely not indy. Because I do think that you actually think I'm indy.

I could see you and July mafia most definitely. Gorf would be indy in that scenario.

July scumbag.
Kuz scumbag.
Gorf scumbag.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Hey BW weight in on anything.

My reads got scrambled. I don't have a solid idea of mafia but I'm still leaning OS for sure. I'd honestly have to say the other one is in Gorf/Soup/BW. I know you're not mafia because you're playing too townie to be mafia, but there's something off that still screams scum so I'm deff thinking indy.

 

[Ramen King]

Mmk kuzi baby n_n.

 

[th3kuzinator]

lol wtf n_n

well regardless I'd still love to find mafia with you but you gonna have to die sooner or later!

 

[Ramen King]

Made your move way too early.

Kuz and July are the mafia team and legitimately believe me to be indy. Which is likely Gorf. Really gotta go now. Extend the deadline if you can. Soup hop over to Gorf and someone hammer.

 

[th3kuzinator]

How can you still think July is mafia?

 

[Ramen King]

Kuz your OS read was circumstantial on July scum, yet you still have OS as scum.
Your BSL read disappeared and no one knows why.
You defended BW and Gorf to death and offered your hand to Soup and now you're saying that mafia is withing them haha.

 

[th3kuzinator]

or scum in general. Her being away for so long and have **** to tonight and having a kinda scum read on an easier wagon (Gorf or BW) she still chose to vote you, a well established townie, even knowing she wouldnt have much time to do anything else. She'd just be signing a death wish instead of potentially moving a Gorf lynch. She's clearly not worried about survival. IDK where you've been but you're reading lots of people wrong this game, even to push your indy wincon.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Kuz your OS read was circumstantial on July scum, yet you still have OS as scum.
Your BSL read disappeared and no one knows why.
You defended BW and Gorf to death and offered your hand to Soup and now you're saying that mafia is withing them haha.

OS was not situational to July. I thought they were mates but I realized I was wrong. I've already explained why OS is scum by himself.

What BSL read? I already said I thought him and BW was TvT ages ago but I'm starting to falter on BW, not BSL.

I didn't defend BW to the death, I just said "but he's town tho." My hand offering to Soup wasn't real, just wanted to see if he'd take it or not to help me read him. Gorf I clearly did defend quite hard but that's because I thought I had the scum team figured out. Me changing my read doesn't have anything to do that I was hounding Soup for agreeing with your shoddy reasoning.

False info errwhere, yo. Try harder.

 

[th3kuzinator]

You know reads can change Zen. Inconsistencies aren't condemning. Why I'd take a dive all of a sudden off my scummate to fight you in this fashion when I could just switch to Gorf or BW is illogical. What if Gorf were to flip Town or Mafia? What if July were to flip town? Where would your head be? You're basing your read on both Gorf and myself as directly predicated that I just tried to save July and Gorf must be indy by PoE.

Comon duder put some genuity into it!

 

[Overswarm]

I haven't read everything but does this mean we can lynch Kuz now? Cuz I'm down.

request deadline extension either way

I'm off all next week so I should have plenty of time for this game soon.