Pretty in pink or true in blue, Krystal for Sm4sh!

[Fatmanonice]

If Mario can use the FLUDD after not using it in canon for 11 years and the cape after not using it in canon for 22, I don't see any problem with Krystal using her staff; just sayin'.

 

[FalKoopa]

I had a lot of fun drawing this expression:

How dare you use Falco...

 

[Fatmanonice]

How dare you use Falco...

I debated which of the three current Star Fox fighters to use and Falco made the most sense. Krystal fantasizing about beating up Fox, her boyfriend, made the least amount of sense while, despite being rivals with Team Star Fox, Krystal joins Star Wolf for a time in Command and doesn't seem to have that much issue with Wolf himself. Falco, on the other hand, seems to get under Krystal's skin a lot in both Assault and Command so it made the most sense that she'd want to take him down the most.

 

[MagnesD3]

Comma

I debated which of the three current Star Fox fighters to use and Falco made the most sense. Krystal fantasizing about beating up Fox, her boyfriend, made the least amount of sense while, despite being rivals with Team Star Fox, Krystal joins Star Wolf for a time in Command and doesn't seem to have that much issue with Wolf himself. Falco, on the other hand, seems to get under Krystal's skin a lot in both Assault and Command so it made the most sense that she'd want to take him down the most.

Command isn't cannon just so you know.

 

[Swift Fox]

I had a lot of fun drawing this expression:

HOHOHO! I love your drawing XD I don't like Falco and glad you drew his KO'd face.

 

[Mewtario]

Krystal fantasizing about beating up Fox, her boyfriend, made the least amount of sense

How do you know what those two may or may not be into?

 

[BlindFox]

I would really love to see Krystal in SSB4. Even it's not my favourite Star Fox character (That does not mean that I hate her, because I don't) I think there's a really good chance to see her in the next Wii U Title and 3DS aswell since she is a popular and quite requested character. Her inclusion would mean that some SF characters would have to be cut (I don't like that at all, but I must be realistic)

Clone characters has been a "popular" discussion since Brawl. Though there are some clones that have a different playstile such: Captain Falcon - Ganon //// Link - Toon Link //// Fox/Falco - Wolf. But we can agree that Falco and Fox have the same moveset and playstyle. So, as much as it hurts me, Falco or Wolf should have to be cut. The "obvious" (It's not that obvious actually) is to get rid of Falco. But there's the fact that Falco is an essential character for the SF series, and Wolf.. Well, it's Fox's nemesis, but still not that relevant.

So, in my own personal opinion, the best for everyone would be a redisign for Falco though it is a tough job. I would love to see all this four (Fox, Falco, Wolf, Krystal) star fox characters on the next SSB, but.. Not gonna happen. Stil, I think that Krystal will be included somehow.

Krystal would need an obvious aesthetic redisign since Adventure's and Assault designs are quite out of phase (I don't wanna talk about command design.....) In all SF and SSB games, Fox had a redisign, so it's likely that if she gets in, she'll have a new design.

And I truly believe that coud be something like this

Neat, right? All credit to JECBrush.


I want to see her as the badass dinousaur staff fighter that she is. As everyone says, her staff would be an awesome tool and weapon. We don't want to see another fox clone for gawd sake. She has potential to be in and she would be another female character, that a lot of people have claimed that SSB is a "sexist game" (I don't really agree with that.. Dang, it's Super Smash BROTHERS, not super smash SISTERS. Stil, I really want more female characters in the new SSB such as Palutena and others) since it only have three females (Samus, Zelda, Peach) Well.. Three and a Half if you wanna count Nana (Ice Climbers)

I would be really pleased to see her in the roster. As a Star Fox fan myself, she's definetely in my TOP 5.

If they add Palutena and Lil Mac... Holy f*ck! I can't wait to kick ass with them alongside Megaman and Krystal!

 

[DarkKry4]

I think there's a really good chance to see her in the next Wii U Title and 3DS aswell since she is a popular and quite requested character.

Her inclusion would mean that some SF characters would have to be cut (I don't like that at all, but I must be realistic)

Clone characters has been a "popular" discussion since Brawl. Though there are some clones that have a different playstile such: Captain Falcon - Ganon //// Link - Toon Link //// Fox/Falco - Wolf. But we can agree that Falco and Fox have the same moveset and playstyle. So, as much as it hurts me, Falco or Wolf should have to be cut. The "obvious" (It's not that obvious actually) is to get rid of Falco. But there's the fact that Falco is an essential character for the SF series, and Wolf.. Well, it's Fox's nemesis, but still not that relevant.

Neither would be cut just to put a random side character like Krystal in the game :/ It would make zero sense. Falco is basically a Smash stable due to his popularity in the game (despite him being a clone) and Wolf has been in Star Fox's best selling games (aka the ones before Krystal came into the picture) and is way more important than Krystal (plus hes been here longer)

I want to see her as the badass dinousaur staff fighter that she is. As everyone says, her staff would be an awesome tool and weapon. We don't want to see another fox clone for gawd sake. She has potential to be in and she would be another female character, that a lot of people have claimed that SSB is a "sexist game" (I don't really agree with that.. Dang, it's Super Smash BROTHERS, not super smash SISTERS. Stil, I really want more female characters in the new SSB such as Palutena and others) since it only have three females (Samus, Zelda, Peach) Well.. Three and a Half if you wanna count Nana (Ice Climbers)

well its not like there are a whole ton of nintendo games where a female is the main character. Only a couple. So its easy to see why they haven't added many.

Krystal isn't much of an iconic secondary female character compared to Peach or Zelda. Shes too unknown among casual fans. And since there is no new Star Fox game at all (the last game was 7 years ago), there isn't much leeway to even add her at all. She has no chance basically. Palutena has much more of a chance to be in this game as far as secondary females go.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Krystal is far from unknown to "casual fans." Have you ever been on Miiverse? She's easily in the top three most requested characters behind Mii and Mewtwo with slightly more requests than Waluigi. Her fan drawings consistently get hundreds of likes and it's more than apparent that a lot of people know exactly who she is.

 

[BlindFox]

Neither would be cut just to put a random side character like Krystal in the game :/ It would make zero sense. Falco is basically a Smash stable due to his popularity in the game (despite him being a clone) and Wolf has been in Star Fox's best selling games (aka the ones before Krystal came into the picture) and is way more important than Krystal (plus hes been here longer)

As long as we have haters, we have fans and fanboys, that's how it works. Furry stuff apart, Krystal have a considerable number of supporters by SF ans SSB fans. Gamerants.com, IGN.com and other sites include her in the Top 10. She wouldn't be there if she wasn't more or less popular.

Well, I can say that there have been some cuts and "replacements" from Melee to Brawl. Young link for Toon Link, Mewtwoo for Lucario (As it seems), and Roy for Ike. And the only character "cut" that we could talk about would be Pichu. He only appeared in Melee. Some say that the old Pikachu left Melee and the Pikachu that we have in Brawl is the evolved form of the Pichu in Brawl. Just Pure (And cool I must say) speculations.

So, it's not crazy to think that maybe that could happen with the Star Fox characters. Everything is possible. Who would tell back then that they could include ice climbers, right?

As I said I don't want Falco to get cut or replaced. But if they add Krystal. Four Star Fox characters is way too much. I'd love that, but seems quite difficuld.

well its not like there are a whole ton of nintendo games where a female is the main character. Only a couple. So its easy to see why they haven't added many.

Krystal isn't much of an iconic secondary female character compared to Peach or Zelda. Shes too unknown among casual fans. And since there is no new Star Fox game at all (the last game was 7 years ago), there isn't much leeway to even add her at all. She has no chance basically. Palutena has much more of a chance to be in this game as far as secondary females go.

Some people say that she's not as well known as other characters that could be included, but, personaly, back when we knew all Brawl characters, I didn't knew at all who R.O.B. and Lucas were. True, never played their games, but you can see my point. Even if they're not popular (At least R.O.B. I believe Lucas is quite well know. Am I right? Anyway) they were included. But they have a unique play style (R.O.B.Obviously, Lucas is almost the same as Ness)

So, as everyone is talking about, I see a chance to see her. Her Staff and that stuff would besome "fresh air" into the game. Also, there were added like 15 new characters in Brawl, so I don't see this as a crazy idea to see 15-20 newcomers in Wii U.

Palutena would be an AWESOME addition. I mean.. F*ck. If she'snot playable, I'm going to hang myself They added the goddamn Wii Fit Trainer... They better add the Goddes for gamers sake. I approove all additions so far (Holy motherf*cking MEGAMAN and Psyco Villager) Wii Fit Trainer... Pffffff!!!!!!!! Don't wanna talk about it. But sure she will be a cool character to fight with.

Krystal is far from unknown to "casual fans." Have you ever been on Miiverse? She's easily in the top three most requested characters behind Mii and Mewtwo with slightly more requests than Waluigi. Her fan drawings consistently get hundreds of likes and it's more than apparent that a lot of people know exactly who she is.

I can't say this is true because I don't own a Wii U... Yet... But yeah, there's a solid fanbase on Deviant Art alongside the Star Fox fanbase.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I also don't like the argument that she's not important to Star Fox despite being the second most important character in Adventures and Command and being just as important as the rest of the Star Fox team in Assault. It kind of gets on my nerves because she's very plausible and yet a lot of people disregard everything positive going for simply because she's a furry. What's that? People jack off to her and make copious amounts of Rule 34? Oh, what, you mean like virtually every other fictional female character on the internet? Yeah, I think it's weird too but, honestly, who cares? As long as people aren't hurting others or promoting illegal activities, I really don't care what they get off on because, quite frankly, it's none of my business. It's not my bag honestly but just let people do what makes them happy as long as they don't step on the rights of others.

 

[DarkKry4]

As long as we have haters, we have fans and fanboys, that's how it works. Furry stuff apart, Krystal have a considerable number of supporters by SF ans SSB fans. Gamerants.com, IGN.com and other sites include her in the Top 10. She wouldn't be there if she wasn't more or less popular.

source please? I know some Krystal fans who like posting false information.

Well, I can say that there have been some cuts and "replacements" from Melee to Brawl. Young link for Toon Link, Mewtwoo for Lucario (As it seems), and Roy for Ike. And the only character "cut" that we could talk about would be Pichu. He only appeared in Melee. Some say that the old Pikachu left Melee and the Pikachu that we have in Brawl is the evolved form of the Pichu in Brawl. Just Pure (And cool I must say) speculations.

So, it's not crazy to think that maybe that could happen with the Star Fox characters. Everything is possible. Who would tell back then that they could include ice climbers, right?

Those characters were replaced solely due to the fact that they wanted to represent the newer/recent games of those series (just like how they updated everyone in Zelda to the Twilight versions). And since there isn't a new star fox game. Its not gonna happen.

And the game files of brawl actually showed they were planning to do the same with Pichu by including Plusle and Minun (if you ask me, the damn pikachu clones deserved to left out of the game all together. So YAY!)

And Ice Climbers are retro characters and the main characters of the game they come from. Not like Krystal at all.

As I said I don't want Falco to get cut or replaced. But if they add Krystal. Four Star Fox characters is way too much. I'd love that, but seems quite difficuld.

Yes, four would be too much for a series that is not relevant. Which is why they're not gonna add anymore characters from Star Fox :/

Some people say that she's not as well known as other characters that could be included, but, personaly, back when we knew all Brawl characters, I didn't knew at all who R.O.B. and Lucas were. True, never played their games, but you can see my point. Even if they're not popular (At least R.O.B. I believe Lucas is quite well know. Am I right? Anyway) they were included. But they have a unique play style (R.O.B.Obviously, Lucas is almost the same as Ness)

So, as everyone is talking about, I see a chance to see her. Her Staff and that stuff would besome "fresh air" into the game. Also, there were added like 15 new characters in Brawl, so I don't see this as a crazy idea to see 15-20 newcomers in Wii U.

Lucas is, at least, not a secondary character (which Krystal is) and ROB holds some nintendo history as a game controller but also made several appearances in other series. Basically he was the WTF newcomer no one requested just like Wii Fit Trainer and Game&Watch but its easy to see why Sakurai personally included them because the WTF characters were important to nintendo in a way (not like Krystal)

I don't see them adding many new characters this time around unfortunately. Sakurai has said before that with Brawl he thinks hes reached the limit in adding characters with unique movesets.

Palutena would be an AWESOME addition. I mean.. F*ck. If she'snot playable, I'm going to hang myself They added the goddamn Wii Fit Trainer... They better add the Goddes for gamers sake. I approove all additions so far (Holy motherf*cking MEGAMAN and Psyco Villager) Wii Fit Trainer... Pffffff!!!!!!!! Don't wanna talk about it. But sure she will be a cool character to fight with.

Palutena definitely has biggest chance out of all the requested female characters. I would be surprised if she doesn't become a playable character in the new smash.

I can't say this is true because I don't own a Wii U... Yet... But yeah, there's a solid fanbase on Deviant Art alongside the Star Fox fanbase.

solid fanbase on an art website? lol Even obscure characters like Captain Syrup has fans on deviantart. It doesn't mean anything.

And if you look here: http://browse.deviantart.com/?thumb_mode=0&view_mode=0&order=9&q=krystal

You'll see alot of the "popular" art is outdated and old. (i'm also thoroughly grossed out by the furry pics *pukes*)

 

[DarkKry4]

Krystal is far from unknown to "casual fans." Have you ever been on Miiverse? She's easily in the top three most requested characters behind Mii and Mewtwo with slightly more requests than Waluigi. Her fan drawings consistently get hundreds of likes and it's more than apparent that a lot of people know exactly who she is.

Okay then, do you have a source to back these claims up other than saying i "saw" it on Miiverse?

I know for a fact that she was barely requested in japan. I never even heard of her til i came these boards tbh.

I also don't like the argument that she's not important to Star Fox despite being the second most important character in Adventures and Command and being just as important as the rest of the Star Fox team in Assault.

 

[MagnesD3]

Krystal is awesome.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I also don't like the argument that she's not important to Star Fox despite being the second most important character in Adventures and Command and being just as important as the rest of the Star Fox team in Assault.

A useless **** in Star Fox Adventures and Star Fox Assault, and a whiny ***** in Star Fox Command.

Yes, really important and vital to the Star Fox team.

 

[Deleted member]

Those characters were replaced solely due to the fact that they wanted to represent the newer/recent games of those series (just like how they updated everyone in Zelda to the Twilight versions). And since there isn't a new star fox game. Its not gonna happen.

And the game files of brawl actually showed they were planning to do the same with Pichu by including Plusle and Minun (if you ask me, the damn pikachu clones deserved to left out of the game all together. So YAY!)

Not related to Krystal, but it's rather ironic you complain about people posting false information, yet do the exact same thing here. (Granted, BlindFox gave a false statement about this first, but still)
-Mewtwo and Roy were not replaced. If they were "replaced", they wouldn't have data within Brawl.
-We don't know if "pra_mai" is Plusle and Minun, but signs are heavily pointing against it being them.

But aside from that, carry on.

Watching Krystal Lovers and Krystal Haters at each other's throats has been far more entertaining since I've gone Switzerland.

 

[DarkKry4]

Not related to Krystal, but it's rather ironic you complain about people posting false information, yet do the exact same thing here. (Granted, BlindFox gave a false statement about this first, but still)
-Mewtwo and Roy were not replaced. If they were "replaced", they wouldn't have data within Brawl.

But aside from that, carry on.

Watching Krystal Lovers and Krystal Haters at each other's throats has been far more entertaining since I've gone Switzerland.

I am fully aware of that they were planned to be in the game. But in the end they weren't in the playable roster. It doesn't really make much of a difference. Whose to say they weren't further developed in favor of the newer faces that had similar moves? Its all assumptions.

And to set the record straight. I'm no Krystal hater. I'm just being real.

-We don't know if "pra_mai" is Plusle and Minun, but signs are heavily pointing against it being them.

fair enough. its not something i researched much. elaborate.

 

[Deleted member]

It's off-topic here to discuss it. Shoot me up a PM if you want.

 

[Sinn]

I don't see them adding many new characters this time around unfortunately. Sakurai has said before that with Brawl he thinks hes reached the limit in adding characters with unique movesets.

I must have missed that. When did he say that? All I remember was him saying was that he didn't want to change up the general game mechanics because he felt it'd do more to hurt the game than help it.

 

[DarkKry4]

I must have missed that. When did he say that? All I remember was him saying was that he didn't want to change up the general game mechanics because he felt it'd do more to hurt the game than help it.

http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/39783/smash-bros-wii-u-may-not-feature-more-characters/
http://www.screwattack.com/news/sakurai-feels-super-smash-bros-roster-its-limit

 

[IsmaR]

He stated in more recent interviews that they did not make any cuts yet, but also that they're done taking requests/working on characters themselves now. That statement could have been just a general assumption that they won't be able to make everyone work, and that people shouldn't get their hopes up for a DBZ-sized roster (usually well over 50+ characters).

If anything, he could have made the statement AFTER finalizing the roster, which may or may not include Krystal. There's next to no way we'd know.

 

[Fatmanonice]

A useless **** in Star Fox Adventures and Star Fox Assault, and a whiny ***** in Star Fox Command.

Yes, really important and vital to the Star Fox team.

In the original Star Fox, the only thing your team really did was get in the way, they really weren't that helpful in SF64 or Assault either, and in Adventure Falco merely makes a cameo while Slippy and Peppy are largely just talking heads so that argument is moot. Also, for a franchise where one of the main gameplay features of many of the games is to save your teammates because they can't help themselves, I don't think there's much room to argue that the other members of the Star Fox team are shining examples of personality either. Krystal's a know-it-all, Falco's full of himself, Peppy's practically senile, and Slippy single handedly redefined what it meant to be an annoying support character. Honestly, are we really going to sit here and argue characters' chances based on something as inconsequential as personality?

 

[BlindFox]

The amount of Hate..​

​

I mean... You're definetely a hater. Even though I don't like Fire Emblem characters on SSB, I still enjoy playing as them or against them. And even though I don't like the new Wii Fit Trainer I'll definetely play as her. Can you see my point? And I'm sure that you want to see some of your fav characters on the next game, don't you? The same happens to me, I'm thrilled to see Krystal, Lil Mac and Palutena. You should enjoy every character!​

source please? I know some Krystal fans who like posting false information.

Here you go, all sources!

http://gamerant.com/nintendo-characters-new-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds-riley-135013/
http://www.ign.com/blogs/blackarach...r-smash-bros-wii-u-and-3ds-roster-predictions
http://www.thetoptens.com/wanted-ssb4-characters/
http://thekoalition.com/2013/05/ten-characters-that-could-be-in-the-next-super-smash-bros/

Those characters were replaced solely due to the fact that they wanted to represent the newer/recent games of those series (just like how they updated everyone in Zelda to the Twilight versions). And since there isn't a new star fox game. Its not gonna happen.

And the game files of brawl actually showed they were planning to do the same with Pichu by including Plusle and Minun (if you ask me, the damn pikachu clones deserved to left out of the game all together. So YAY!)

And Ice Climbers are retro characters and the main characters of the game they come from. Not like Krystal at all.

Even without new games they redisigned Fox. Aswell as Falo.

Yes, four would be too much for a series that is not relevant. Which is why they're not gonna add anymore characters from Star Fox :/

Star Fox is not relevant... Yeah, of course. And The Legend of Zelda is the worst series ever... [/sarcasm]

SF64 was one of the best sellings on the N64. Aswell as Mario 64, TLOZ: OoT, and Donkey Kong 64 and SSB.

But in any event. Arguing this kind of stuff on the internet it's just pointless. I support Krystal for the next SSB game, as a Star Fox Fan, and I think that she might be in the game, MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION. And if you don't like it, well.. Write some poetry? That will help you for sure.

Cool badge, huh? :D

 

[FlareHabanero]

The amount of Hate..​

Stopped reading there and you've lost all credibility.​

​

Go back to Reddit and masturbate to image macros you horrendous abomination.​

 

[Fatmanonice]

Okay then, do you have a source to back these claims up other than saying i "saw" it on Miiverse?

I know for a fact that she was barely requested in japan. I never even heard of her til i came these boards tbh.

Given your history, regardless of what I showed or said, your extreme bias would outright dismiss it.

"1. Krystal - She doesnt fit in. I kind of find her to be too sexual(nice way of saying it) to be in this game."

Look familiar? You made this post back in April 2007. It's obvious that nothing has changed since then and it seems that this is the brass tacks of your objection against her instead of genuinely logically objections like you claim. Your hatred of Krystal, a cartoon character I might add, borders on obsessive. Of the 70 posts you've made this year, 29 have been about Krystal (roughly 41%) while 53 have been arguing with people about the characters they want (roughly 76%). This shows that you're either a troll or excessively aggressive with your opinions. If I ran into a person who I ended up getting in an argument with 3 out of every 4 times I ran into them, I would probably avoid them like the plague. I mean, it's fine to have an opinion and all but you seem to have a long history of swinging yours around like a baseball bat.

As for your rebuttals, I really don't feel like digging up the Miiverse posts just to have them outright dismissed so I'll simply do this instead:

http://smashboards.com/threads/the-...y-votes-hit-1500.324324/page-31#post-15670615

She's 7th on this site with 239 votes and 7th overall with 565. Considering the expansive polling pool Shortie has made for this poll, I think it's strongly indicative that she is, in fact, popular. "She's not that popular in Japan." Well, it's a good thing that Sakurai has gone on record multiple times throughout the years that he doesn't only consider the wishes of the Japanese then.

As for the sales of the three Starfox games with Krystal in them, the grandeur of how much of a nonsequitor this argument is simply has to be addressed. Where has Sakurai ever stated that sales are a main driving force in his character selections? Where is the proof that sales for these three games were because of Krystal and not, oh I don't know, the fact that they were extremely mediocre games? You seem to make a mental connection that these games didn't do very well specifically because of Krystal which, again, shows an extreme bias where you honestly believe that your opinions are accurate, objective reflections of reality.

Given what I've presented here, I feel that no matter what is said here you will continue with your opinions and I will continue with mine and, with that being said, why do you want to have a online presence that's overwhelmingly defined by confrontation? Is getting in people's faces about inconsequential opinions really what you want your calling card to be? Again, I think there's a better way to spend your time here.

 

[BlindFox]

Stopped reading there and you've lost all credibility.​

​

Go back to Reddit and masturbate to image macros you horrendous abomination.​

Just wanted to keep things "friendly" enough. There's no reason to get that "offensive".

 

[MagnesD3]

Gotta love the haters, god I hope she gets in, if mewtwo, Ridley and Krystal come in ssb4 ill be set.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I don't really understand the level of hate though. Granted, she's not my favorite video game character but it's weird how a lot of Krystal fans are blanketed as being "obsessed" with her if they express even slightly liking the idea of seeing her playable in Smash. Honestly, I've dealt with more people who rabidly hate her than unnervingly attracted to her over the years and have run into a lot more people sexually attracted to Peach and Samus in comparison. Aside from her skimpy attire in Adventure, she's never been pushed as a sexual character in the games as opposed to other video game females like Morrigan, Juri, and Bayonetta whose appearance and even personality line up with that archetype. Sassy? A little but so is everyone else on Team Starfox to some degree and if that's the judging factor, Falco might as well be the Ron Jeremy of video games. As I mentioned before I do find furry fetishes a bit disquieting (only because it's not my things) but not enough for me to outright despise any anthropomorphic animal I come across.

 

[LaniusShrike]

I don't really understand the level of hate though. Granted, she's not my favorite video game character but it's weird how a lot of Krystal fans are blanketed as being "obsessed" with her if they express even slightly liking the idea of seeing her playable in Smash. Honestly, I've dealt with more people who rabidly hate her than unnervingly attracted to her over the years and have run into a lot more people sexually attracted to Peach and Samus in comparison. Aside from her skimpy attire in Adventure, she's never been pushed as a sexual character in the games as opposed to other video game females like Morrigan, Juri, and Bayonetta whose appearance and even personality line up with that archetype. Sassy? A little but so is everyone else on Team Starfox to some degree and if that's the judging factor, Falco might as well be the Ron Jeremy of video games. As I mentioned before I do find furry fetishes a bit disquieting (only because it's not my things) but not enough for me to outright despise any anthropomorphic animal I come across.

If I recall correctly, the rabidness of Krystal fans is more of a concept left over from her Brawl support. People are pretty tame about her this time around. I would argue that she's been pushed as a more sexual character though... For instance, look at the pictures of her in the Brawl support thread. The way they depict a character in the artwork is pretty indicative of how they intend to market the character, and she's clearly being more than a little coquettish.

http://smashboards.com/threads/the-official-krystal-thread.72178/

Feel free to just read the OP. Or the hundreds of pages of fanaticism.

 

[FalKoopa]

http://smashboards.com/threads/the-official-krystal-thread.72178/

Feel free to just read the OP. Or the hundreds of pages of fanaticism.

God, that OP is bad. I mean really bad.

Well, I do think Krystal is getting a bit exceesive amount of flak. DarkKry4 in particular seems to enjoy trolling the thread.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Aside from the OP and the 2 or 3 people who were drooling on their keyboards in the first 10 pages or so, support was rather tame. I did find it funny that the angry sentiment towards furries was almost immediate and there was really only one fan that was going post after post about his love for Krystal as opposed to 3 or 4 people who wouldn't let up about how much they hated her. Still, honestly, who cares? They can have their blue fox women as long as I can have my girls with glasses. Live and let live.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I wouldn't mind Krystal too much if she got in. In fact she would be rather cool.

I just don't want to give up Falco or Wolf and I can't see Starfox getting 4 characters this time around.

See my predicament?

I'm inclined to say, just bring back Fox, Falco and Wolf, declone them some and call it a day.

 

[Shorts]

Darkry4, go home, you lost.

Team Krystal, rollout.

 

[FlareHabanero]

http://smashboards.com/threads/the-official-krystal-thread.72178/

Feel free to just read the OP. Or the hundreds of pages of fanaticism.

Good god, that OP is such an eyesore, and not in a "so bad it's good" way. Those comments are even worse, like even to this day I'm still baffled by this horse****.

In fact, I might of stumbled onto this thread during my lurking binges back during Brawl speculation.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I wouldn't mind Krystal too much if she got in. In fact she would be rather cool.

I just don't want to give up Falco or Wolf and I can't see Starfox getting 4 characters this time around.

See my predicament?

I'm inclined to say, just bring back Fox, Falco and Wolf, declone them some and call it a day.

I'm still "meh" when it comes to Wolf but I'd be fine with all four making it. In the preBrawl days I did see Wolf as competition but since 5 years have passed since then his presence in Smash has grown on me. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he leaves but, unlike back then, I now at least understand why a lot of people would be.

 

[Deleted member]

I wouldn't mind Krystal too much if she got in. In fact she would be rather cool.

I just don't want to give up Falco or Wolf and I can't see Starfox getting 4 characters this time around.

See my predicament?

I'm inclined to say, just bring back Fox, Falco and Wolf, declone them some and call it a day.

Pretty much my position now.
I've stopped full-on hating her after I realized that the fanbase has toned down as a whole, save for the occasional extremely biased and crazy fan. (That and because I shocked myself with how I was concerned about how she is not represented well within Super Smash Bros. Crusade.)
If she gets in as a 4th, no skin off my bones. Either I'll ignore her completely, occasionally play as her because I happen to like the gameplay style she has (like I do with the other SF characters), or just use her as a personal training dummy if I really feel like hating on her.

I just don't want to see Falco or Wolf taken out for her since they've earned their place.

 

[MagnesD3]

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I'm still "meh" when it comes to Wolf but I'd be fine with all four making it. In the preBrawl days I did see Wolf as competition but since 5 years have passed since then his presence in Smash has grown on me. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he leaves but, unlike back then, I now at least understand why a lot of people would be.

Ah don't cut wolf!!! He is awesome and super important, if anything cut falco or better yet get all 4.

 

[FalKoopa]

I don't Krystal getting in over Wolf or Falco...

StarFox 64 3D had both Falco and Wolf. It only bolsters their chances of staying.

 

[MagnesD3]

I don't Krystal getting in over Wolf or Falco...

StarFox 64 3D had both Falco and Wolf. It only bolsters their chances of staying.

Well Krystal wasn't around in that game so of course she wouldn't be in it.

 

[BlindFox]

If we can have four Zelda characters (Including the speculated Midna, Girahim or Classic/toon Link) We can have four Star Fox characters. I wouldn't like that much if they were Fox, Falco and Wolf with the same moveset, (Wolf apart, he have the same moveset but balanced in another way) If they can redisign in some way Falco and Wolf moveset that would make some 4 (including Krystal) unique characters as the others.

In Brawl Mario have 8 characters, Pokémon have 4 (6 if you want to count the 3 pokemons from the pokemon trainer) Zelda have 4 (5 if you wanna count sheik) and Kirby 3 (In my opinion, Kirby needs more characters...)

So we have:

Mario in the first place, seems pretty obvious. (SSB64 = 3 characters (Counting Yoshi as a Mario rep) // SSBM = + 2 // SSBB = + 1 (Counting Wario as a Mario rep))
Then Pokémon (SSB64 = 2 // SSBM = + 2 // SSBB = Mewtwoo and Mew removed, Lucario and Pkmn Trainer instead)
Followed by Zelda (SSB64 = 1 // SSBM = + 3 // SSBB = Young Link replaced by Toon Link)
And finally Star Fox (SSB64 = 1 // SSBM +1 // SSBB = +1)

The 4 best selling and more popular Nintendo franchises with more characters in the roster. With that in mind, I don't see the idea of one addition to every franchise as something crazy and weird.