Pretty in pink or true in blue, Krystal for Sm4sh!

[Akenero]

I think if she's added, as staff moveset is almost garunteed because of how much Sakurai is emphasizing on interesting playstyles. I like the Fire, Ice, Rocket Boost, and Quake movesets the most. But that final Smash with the Dinos is really cool too. I think these moves altogether would make for a cool moveset

Lol, thanks, kinda got it from WFT's final smash. Changed it while typing. Also, THANK YOU MAGNES for noticing the staff twirl, I love that thing, though it'd be more like a F-smash then Side B. Opinions aside(such as me not liking quake but eh, whatcha gonna do?) that's all obvious.
My idea for her smashes is this
F-smash:The twirl
Up smash: A quike slash upwards that leaves magic above, as a charge goes up the staff, she readies herself and thrusts Skyward, launching the bolt, and Horribly Mutilating anyone in spearing range
D-smash: A Fast, backwards thrust with the bladed end of the staff, spins it around, having a charge going, and Points at the ground, uttering "Blast" in saurian, The ground erupts in a blue fireball, making Krystal flinch from the heat.

 

[MagnesD3]

Lol, thanks, kinda got it from WFT's final smash. Changed it while typing. Also, THANK YOU MAGNES for noticing the staff twirl, I love that thing, though it'd be more like a F-smash then Side B. Opinions aside(such as me not liking quake but eh, whatcha gonna do?) that's all obvious.
My idea for her smashes is this
F-smash:The twirl
Up smash: A quike slash upwards that leaves magic above, as a charge goes up the staff, she readies herself and thrusts Skyward, launching the bolt, and Horribly Mutilating anyone in spearing range
D-smash: A Fast, backwards thrust with the bladed end of the staff, spins it around, having a charge going, and Points at the ground, uttering "Blast" in saurian, The ground erupts in a blue fireball, making Krystal flinch from the heat.

I really want to see the momentum of the physics engine with her staff, it would probably make her tools more ambiguous, if she keeps attack, there is just so much you can do with her Moveset.

 

[IsmaR]

I really hope every hit makes the same noise from hitting Tricky lol

Fix'd .

 

[MagnesD3]

Fix'd.

He is invinciber, WHA HA HA HA, Im hungry, Im stuffed, flame, Lets play.

 

[Akenero]

Lol, thanks, kinda got it from WFT's final smash. Changed it while typing. Also, THANK YOU MAGNES for noticing the staff twirl, I love that thing, though it'd be more like a F-smash then Side B. Opinions aside(such as me not liking quake but eh, whatcha gonna do?) that's all obvious.
My idea for her smashes is this
F-smash:The twirl
Up smash: A quike slash upwards that leaves magic above, as a charge goes up the staff, she readies herself and thrusts Skyward, launching the bolt, and Horribly Mutilating anyone in spearing range
D-smash: A Fast, backwards thrust with the bladed end of the staff, spins it around, having a charge going, and Points at the ground, uttering "Blast" in saurian, The ground erupts in a blue fireball, making Krystal flinch from the heat.

I found a translator. So I can translate words, which she should have on all her moves...sooo...
F-smash: Heee-Ya!; Xooo-Ya!
U-smash: Wave...LAUNCH!; Nulo...LAUNCH or...Nulo...CUIDSX
D-smash: Blast; Rcujk
Final smash-Saurian Strike; Juihaud Strike

http://saurian.krystalarchive.com/

 

[MagnesD3]

I found a translator. So I can translate words, which she should have on all her moves...sooo...
F-smash: Heee-Ya!; Xooo-Ya!
U-smash: Wave...LAUNCH!; Nulo...LAUNCH or...Nulo...CUIDSX
D-smash: Blast; Rcujk
Final smash-Saurian Strike; Juihaud Strike

http://saurian.krystalarchive.com/

the translations are in the little instruction booklet lol.

 

[Akenero]

yes, I know, but for those who do not have it. that's an easy way. besides, they do sound cool
JUIHAUD STRIKE!!!!!

 

[MagnesD3]

I wonder how long Krystal had lived on dinosaur planet to learn the language that fast, her base language is the same as foxes, (maybe she is just a language master?)

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I wonder how long Krystal had lived on dinosaur planet to learn the language that fast, her base language is the same as foxes, (maybe she is just a language master?)

Maybe, it has something to do with her telepathy and allows her to communicate, quickly

 

[Hotfeet444]

Yay for Krystal!

I was always keen on fur detailing.

 

[MagnesD3]

Maybe, it has something to do with her telepathy and allows her to communicate, quickly

Possibly, I really hope her past gets explored in the next game, (the day we get one )

 

[DarkKry4]

The average person isn't going to know the FE cast, Mother Cast and even Cpt. Falcon. This point doesn't lower her chances, Sakurai goes for characters, that HE thinks will be well in the game, we just want to show our support because we would like to see Krystal, not because she's a shoe-in or anything. Anyways, I don't see how her chances being Lowered from the trailer, there's nothing stopping her from what I saw, may you explain.

Just the type of newcomers in the trailer make it seem like they don't want to add any irrelevant side characters. Sakurai stated before that he does not want add any unimportant characters in the new game. Krystal clearly isn't relevant to Nintendo like Wii Fit Trainer or Villager.

The way you "tell it like it is" seems just as subjective as you claim the opinions of her supporters are.

1: Why are their opinions delusional?

2: How exactly did anything they showed on Tuesday demonstrate that she has no chance?

3: I agree that I wasn't really expecting her to be in the trailer, but I had pretty low expectations for the trailer to begin with (hate getting my hopes up, just in case).

1: Their opinions are delusional because they pretend Krystal is popular and important. Which she isn't. And that "potential for a cool moveset" makes her more "likely" to be in the game. Forgetting the fact that you could give a moveset to ANYBODY ex. Wii Fit Trainer and Villager.

2: It showed that type of newcomers this game aren't going to be side characters with no relevance like Slippy and Krystal.

3: Wouldn't they idk go with someone thats RECOGNIZABLE and BUILDS HYPE for the first trailer? I don't know how anyone could think that she was gonna be the newcomer they were going to show off in the first trailer but there were people who did think that -_-

Just my opinion. Agree to disagree if you like.

 

[MagnesD3]

Just the type of newcomers in the trailer make it seem like they don't want to add any irrelevant side characters. Sakurai stated before that he does not want add any unimportant characters in the new game. Krystal clearly isn't relevant to Nintendo like Wii Fit Trainer or Villager.




1: Their opinions are delusional because they pretend Krystal is popular and important. Which she isn't. And that "potential for a cool moveset" makes her more "likely" to be in the game. Forgetting the fact that you could give a moveset to ANYBODY ex. Wii Fit Trainer and Villager.

2: It showed that type of newcomers this game aren't going to be side characters with no relevance like Slippy and Krystal.

3: Wouldn't they idk go with someone thats RECOGNIZABLE and BUILDS HYPE for the first trailer? I don't know how anyone could think that she was gonna be the newcomer they were going to show off in the first trailer but there were people who did think that -_-

Just my opinion. Agree to disagree if you like.

Troll.

 

[Akenero]

Just the type of newcomers in the trailer make it seem like they don't want to add any irrelevant side characters. Sakurai stated before that he does not want add any unimportant characters in the new game. Krystal clearly isn't relevant to Nintendo like Wii Fit Trainer or Villager.




1: Their opinions are delusional because they pretend Krystal is popular and important. Which she isn't. And that "potential for a cool moveset" makes her more "likely" to be in the game. Forgetting the fact that you could give a moveset to ANYBODY ex. Wii Fit Trainer and Villager.

2: It showed that type of newcomers this game aren't going to be side characters with no relevance like Slippy and Krystal.

3: Wouldn't they idk go with someone thats RECOGNIZABLE and BUILDS HYPE for the first trailer? I don't know how anyone could think that she was gonna be the newcomer they were going to show off in the first trailer but there were people who did think that -_-

Just my opinion. Agree to disagree if you like.

http://smashboards.com/threads/the-...y-votes-hit-1300.324324/page-29#post-15620229

I do respect your opinion, but this is a Krystal support thread, who is the most wanted female character in smash right now. Bringing this here is bound to give you hate. If that's what you want, fine. If you're trying to make a point, it's in the wrong place.

 

[DarkKry4]

http://smashboards.com/threads/the-...y-votes-hit-1300.324324/page-29#post-15620229

I do respect your opinion, but this is a Krystal support thread, who is the most wanted female character in smash right now. Bringing this here is bound to give you hate. If that's what you want, fine. If you're trying to make a point, it's in the wrong place.

No one gives me hate except for the one person who calls me a troll. I think hes embarrassed that he was wrong about Krystal being in the trailer. Other than that, i have been completely civil towards everyone. Even if i disagreed with them. People are allowed to provide arguments about why they don't think shes gonna be in.

 

[Akenero]

No one gives me hate except for the one person who calls me a troll. I think hes embarrassed that he was wrong about Krystal being in the trailer. Other than that, i have been completely civil towards everyone. Even if i disagreed with them. People are allowed to provide arguments about why they don't think shes gonna be in.

Yes, it was a long shot for Krystal to be in the trailer, but what you came across as is that Krystal is useless, has no chance of being in the game, and nobody knows about her. That is not the case. She is the most wanted female character right now, she plays huge parts in Assault and command, and is star fox's one female character. She is extremely useful.

 

[BluePikmin11]

It might be too late for Krystal to be playable in the game, in the point where there was no new Starfox game (starring her).

 

[FlareHabanero]

She is the most wanted female character right now

Palutena apparently doesn't exist anymore. Good to know.

she plays huge parts in Assault and command

She just there in Star Fox: Assault, and spends most of Star Fox: Command being a whiny *****.

 

[DarkKry4]

Yes, it was a long shot for Krystal to be in the trailer, but what you came across as is that Krystal is useless, has no chance of being in the game, and nobody knows about her. That is not the case. She is the most wanted female character right now, she plays huge parts in Assault and command, and is star fox's one female character. She is extremely useful.

i never said she was useless. But i do feel like she will not be this game and that her "popularity" is only limited to Smashboards users (which btw is declining). Shes not really popular in japan or outside of these boards in general..

It might be too late for Krystal to be playable in the game, in the point where there was no new Starfox game (starring her).

Exactly. Unless a character is a "retro throwback", i don't see any more irrelevant characters being added. And since the starfox series don't really have a new game, there is no reason to give them another rep.

 

[Sinn]

1: Their opinions are delusional because they pretend Krystal is popular and important. Which she isn't. And that "potential for a cool moveset" makes her more "likely" to be in the game. Forgetting the fact that you could give a moveset to ANYBODY ex. Wii Fit Trainer and Villager.

2: It showed that type of newcomers this game aren't going to be side characters with no relevance like Slippy and Krystal.

3: Wouldn't they idk go with someone thats RECOGNIZABLE and BUILDS HYPE for the first trailer? I don't know how anyone could think that she was gonna be the newcomer they were going to show off in the first trailer but there were people who did think that -_-

Just my opinion. Agree to disagree if you like.

So let me get this straight...in point 2 you said that the three newcomers shown in the announcement trailer demonstrate that the newcomers for SSB4 aren't going to be lesser known side characters...yet in point 3 you said that the devs wanted to go with recognizable, hype building newcomers for the announcement trailer.

Wouldn't that imply that if there are any secondary newcomers waiting in the wings, they wouldn't have been shown off for the trailer anyway? How then would we be able to take the trailer as a representative example of the type of newcomers that will be in the game?

 

[DarkKry4]

So let me get this straight...in point 2 you said that the three newcomers shown in the announcement trailer demonstrate that the newcomers for SSB4 aren't going to be lesser known side characters...yet in point 3 you said that the devs wanted to go with recognizable, hype building newcomers for the announcement trailer.

1: Wouldn't that imply that if there are any secondary newcomers waiting in the wings, they wouldn't have been shown off for the trailer anyway? 2: How then would we be able to take the trailer as a representative example of the type of newcomers that will be in the game?

1: Well if there were secondary characters as newcomers, they wouldn't be in the first hype building trailer, which is the point i was trying to make to the people who did think that. So yeah.

2: It all goes back at what Sakurai said before. He said that he was against adding unimportant random characters to the game. I guess you are right about the trailer since its not everything but we will see later.

 

[MagnesD3]

Yes, it was a long shot for Krystal to be in the trailer, but what you came across as is that Krystal is useless, has no chance of being in the game, and nobody knows about her. That is not the case. She is the most wanted female character right now, she plays huge parts in Assault and command, and is star fox's one female character. She is extremely useful.

I though she had a shot since the brawl trailer was a mixed bag, but instead we only got a three character trailer (which really doesn't boost my confidence on getting a bigger roster.)

 

[Shadow312]

I though she had a shot since the brawl trailer was a mixed bag, but instead we only got a three character trailer (which really doesn't boost my confidence on getting a bigger roster.)

Aren't they removing the adventure aspect from the game? That would hopefully clear up a lot more room and time for characters.

 

[MagnesD3]

Aren't they removing the adventure aspect from the game? That would hopefully clear up a lot more room and time for characters.

I hope but nothing is confirmed.

 

[SethTheMage]

I really want Krystal to be in this game, but I'm not going to argue about her chances or her importance to the Star Fox series, since that seems to be a controversial discussion here. I just wish that Nintendo would make more Star Fox games with her in it, so that she would be more relevant. It seems that there are a lot of people who blame her for the "downfall" of the series, and I think that's a little unfair; in my opinion, it was Command's crappy writing that did that. Plus, she wasn't originally going to be a Star Fox character. If Dinosaur Planet would have been made into an actual game instead of being shoved into Star Fox's universe, maybe she would be viewed differently. I can see why people don't like her because of what she became in the series (damsel in distress, forced love interest for Fox, etc.), but I still like her and would love to see her playable, especially if she has her staff. And no, it's not "because she has BEWBS", since that doesn't interest me.

 

[Mewtario]

I've heard that due to technical limitations on the 3DS, there will need to be cuts made in Brawl's character roster in order to to include these new characters.

Also, a complication comes to mind with regard to Adventures references: Rare developed that game as one of their final projects before being bought by Microsoft. Krystal is owned by Nintendo, but I don't think there's any telling what else in that game belongs to who now. furthermore, if it turns out that something from Adventures still belongs to Rare, don't expect any compromises to be made between Nintendo and Microsoft.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I think I'm gonna speak for a lot of people when I say this.

I wouldn't mind it if Krystal got in. In fact she would be rather cool.

I just want to keep Fox, Falco and Wolf more and I can't see Starfox getting four characters. IF Starfox got four characters though then yeah, I'd be for all four! But Krystal should NEVER replace Wolf or Falco.

 

[MagnesD3]

I think I'm gonna speak for a lot of people when I say this.

I wouldn't mind it if Krystal got in. In fact she would be rather cool.

I just want to keep Fox, Falco and Wolf more and I can't see Starfox getting four characters. IF Starfox got four characters though then yeah, I'd be for all four! But Krystal should NEVER replace Wolf or Falco.

I can lose falco for her but I understand people wanting him to stay, to me falco was a really strange addition in the first place over the likes of wolf in melee now that he's in the game he is more popular than he ever was before and has been a clone in two games, maybe if they declonify him I can appreciate him more but right now he just feels like a waste of space.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

For the record, what is the differnce in Falco and Fox's playstyles?

 

[FlareHabanero]

For the record, what is the differnce in Falco and Fox's playstyles?

The most notable difference between Falco and Fox is their movements. Falco runs slower then Fox but has a higher jump. He's also slightly heavier then Fox. Their play styles are similar, but Falco's play style has a tad more emphasis on pressuring and punishing more then Fox's due to the stunning properties of his blaster.

This is discounting actual move differences.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I see. The only difference that came to mind for me besides the blaster was the meteor on his side B.

 

[FlareHabanero]

In terms of general move differences, Falco's up tilt, forward smash, forward aerial, neutral attack, and neutral aerial are completely different. The function of the down aerial, down throw, and down tilt are also notably different. His specials also function differently, despite being similar.

 

[Komenja]

I've seen this mentioned a few times as potential for her moveset, but personally I don't see it being able to add much. Her telepathy. The only abilities she's been seen to possess with this trait are "sensing life" and foreseeing an attack just before it occurs (both of these abilities were shown in Assault). There's also the scene in Adventures where Fox hears her voice after he picks up her staff, although I believe that was just some sort of recorded tutorial message since she never contacts him through the staff again (And being in her situation at the time, trapped in a crystal, that would've been pretty handy to send a cry for help).

My point is, how could any of these be put into offensive or defensive abilities?

 

[FalKoopa]

The only abilities she's been seen to possess with this trait are "sensing life" and foreseeing an attack just before it occurs (both of these abilities were shown in Assault).?

Krystal confirmed to be a Lucario clone.

 

[Akenero]

I've seen this mentioned a few times as potential for her moveset, but personally I don't see it being able to add much. Her telepathy. The only abilities she's been seen to possess with this trait are "sensing life" and foreseeing an attack just before it occurs (both of these abilities were shown in Assault). There's also the scene in Adventures where Fox hears her voice after he picks up her staff, although I believe that was just some sort of recorded tutorial message since she never contacts him through the staff again (And being in her situation at the time, trapped in a crystal, that would've been pretty handy to send a cry for help).

My point is, how could any of these be put into offensive or defensive abilities?

sense life might be you can't be invisible?
The Forseen attack though, It could be a random occurence, where like, 1% of the time, when she's at death percents, and the opponent has registered a move that WILL kill her(without DI) time slows down and she can dodge it. defensively that is obvious, offensively she could punish them, since she knows what they'll do. I highly doubt that this will be in the game, but that answers your question.

 

[Akenero]

I've seen this mentioned a few times as potential for her moveset, but personally I don't see it being able to add much. Her telepathy. The only abilities she's been seen to possess with this trait are "sensing life" and foreseeing an attack just before it occurs (both of these abilities were shown in Assault). There's also the scene in Adventures where Fox hears her voice after he picks up her staff, although I believe that was just some sort of recorded tutorial message since she never contacts him through the staff again (And being in her situation at the time, trapped in a crystal, that would've been pretty handy to send a cry for help).

My point is, how could any of these be put into offensive or defensive abilities?

sense life might be you can't be invisible?
The Forseen attack though, It could be a random occurence, where like, 1% of the time, when she's at death percents, and the opponent has registered a move that WILL kill her(without DI) time slows down and she can dodge it. defensively that is obvious, offensively she could punish them, since she knows what they'll do. I highly doubt that this will be in the game, but that answers your question.

Krystal confirmed to be a Lucario clone.

YAY!SHE'S CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!
also, I don't care what her moveset is. I'm maining her. That's that. Next legitimate question/sarcastic message please. A'lo wek u rijadojj ke hid.
GAH!!!! DOUBLE POST!!!!!!!!!!!
Metohukehj, fcoujo te u seifco ev kxadwj.
1. Vap m0 khudjcukeh.
2. tocoko kxo vahjk fejk.
3. Walo mo seebaoj.

 

[LaniusShrike]

I've seen this mentioned a few times as potential for her moveset, but personally I don't see it being able to add much. Her telepathy. The only abilities she's been seen to possess with this trait are "sensing life" and foreseeing an attack just before it occurs (both of these abilities were shown in Assault). There's also the scene in Adventures where Fox hears her voice after he picks up her staff, although I believe that was just some sort of recorded tutorial message since she never contacts him through the staff again (And being in her situation at the time, trapped in a crystal, that would've been pretty handy to send a cry for help).

My point is, how could any of these be put into offensive or defensive abilities?

What I've seen proposed is to put her telepathy/precognition into (yet another) counter attack. Until she shows the ability to telepathically possess people, I don't really see it being a proactive offensive technique.

So... yeah. Something like Lucario's Down+B, sure.

 

[Komenja]

That makes sense.

 

[Shadow312]

Yeah, the telepathy thing could be made for a counter attack. But I feel the staff she weilds should be the main focus if made playable. It has so many aspects to it that are perfect for a Smash game. It even had that rocket boost for an Up B / recover attack

 

[Akenero]

Yeah, the telepathy thing could be made for a counter attack. But I feel the staff she weilds should be the main focus if made playable. It has so many aspects to it that are perfect for a Smash game. It even had that rocket boost for an Up B / recover attack

Yes, that is the focus of literally everyone, nobody thinks she should be another clone, everyone wants her with her staff.