Pretty in pink or true in blue, Krystal for Sm4sh!

[Shorts]

I always thought this would be her 64 type look

Also, it's nice to see Mega Man was chosen because of the Brawl polls. There is a good chance she's highly voted on that poll due to her height of popularity being back then.

 

[FalKoopa]

Also, it's nice to see Mega Man was chosen because of the Brawl polls.

Can I get a source?

 

[Shorts]

Uhm, the most recent interview where he talks about cuts being deathly, or something.

Mega Man's addition came about at the behest of fans as well. After Sonic the Hedgehog — who appeared in Super Smash Bros. Brawl — Mega Man was the most requested guest character, Sakurai said.

 

[FalKoopa]

Hmm... I don't see it as a definite indication of Brawl polls, as Mega Man was still the most requested 3rd party for SSB4 polls as well iirc. Oh well.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

It's an indication of the Brawl polls: Both the Japanese and the American polls. I know after Sonic, Mega-Man was easily the most requested Third-Party.

 

[N3ON]

Hmm... I don't see it as a definite indication of Brawl polls, as Mega Man was still the most requested 3rd party for SSB4 polls as well iirc. Oh well.

Well he said he was the second-most popular after Sonic the Hedgehog, so it's definitely an indication of Brawl-era popularity, which bodes well for other characters popular around Brawl.

It's an indication of the Brawl polls: Both the Japanese and the American polls. I know after Sonic, Mega-Man was easily the most requested Third-Party.

There weren't any official American Brawl polls. Only the Japanese got an official poll.

 

[MagnesD3]

I always thought this would be her 64 type look

Also, it's nice to see Mega Man was chosen because of the Brawl polls. There is a good chance she's highly voted on that poll due to her height of popularity being back then.

Since it seems they are going for a more cartoony look, Id like to see a costume kind of like this I suppose but with blue and pink in it and white, (combine this and assaults look.) old school look of sauria can be an alt or something.

Honestly, nobody thinks about Tricky coming along with her but whatever.
She's the only one who has ever been in 2 ground based combat games, one of which was a part time deal, the other she was all gun-ho.
The fact that Star Fox Adventures utilizes her staff, which has many abilities easily applied to smash, and Star Fox Assault utilizes more futuristic weaponry(hasn't play assault) means she could be an easy mix. Stuff like her Dual wielding would be cool.

As in her staff in one hand, posed like a shotgun, and a blaster in the other for her Neutral B. Taking out the blaster would still work.
A strange cross with the illusions and her staff could be something like her tossing the staff, waiting a bit, and then teleporting over.
That kinda thing
But what we all want is her to have a completely Unique moveset.

I never thought about her having a blaster and her staff, that would make her even more interesting/versatile, (even though she can be designed just fine without it.)

 

[Thirdkoopa]

There weren't any official American Brawl polls. Only the Japanese got an official poll.

Wrong. There was a poll on NSider (With most of the results asides from Sonic and Ridley not revealed for a long time) that unfortunately quite a few people missed out on.

Other then that, we've never got an official poll.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Honestly, nobody thinks about Tricky coming along with her but whatever.

Honestly I've always wanted the little guy as an assist trophy, but seems like even that won't ever happen.

 

[MagnesD3]

Honestly I've always wanted the little guy as an assist trophy, but seems like even that won't ever happen.

Im stuffed.

 

[N3ON]

Wrong. There was a poll on NSider (With most of the results asides from Sonic and Ridley not revealed for a long time) that unfortunately quite a few people missed out on.

Other then that, we've never got an official poll.

I'd love a source on that. Even if it was just on NSider and people missed out on it, it would've made headlines somewhere (other than NSider).

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Im stuffed.

Tricky as an AT would dig a hole which the opponent would fall into for massive damage!

 

[Thirdkoopa]

I'd love a source on that. Even if it was just on NSider and people missed out on it, it would've made headlines somewhere (other than NSider).

I'll look during this week. I am busy, but I think the fact it was that is still a huge equation because for most of Brawl, it was THE official Nintendo forum.

 

[N3ON]

I'll look during this week. I am busy, but I think the fact it was that is still a huge equation because for most of Brawl, it was THE official Nintendo forum.

Keep in mind that just because it was the official forum doesn't mean the poll was official. But ok, whenever you have time.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Keep in mind that just because it was the official forum doesn't mean the poll was official. But ok, whenever you have time.

It was official, but yeah, if I can find anything else on it I will. At the very least, I have something on my computer. Granted, my computer probably has at least 10-15k files.

 

[Mewtario]

The idea of her with her in her Assault outfit, modified to be more SF64-like, with staff, possibly with a modified Adventures outfit as an alt certainly seems like a possibility within the realm of reason if she were to be included. Also keep in mind that costumes would be designed with alternate color schemes in mind, so one color needs to be dominant over the others in each outfit idea.

 

[Shorts]

Even if it isn't an indication to specifically the BRAWL POLL, it's definitely indication of Brawl popularity.

 

[Sinn]

I always thought this would be her 64 type look

Spoiler

Also, it's nice to see Mega Man was chosen because of the Brawl polls. There is a good chance she's highly voted on that poll due to her height of popularity being back then.

That's a really awesome picture. Personally, I still want her original outfit, but I actually like this one better than her Assault or Command outfits.

 

[Mewtario]

The use of a Brawl-era poll might actually be cause of concern, especially if that poll is Japanese....

Let's not forget that (at least as of last time I am aware) Japan doesn't like Krystal, but instead prefers Falco....

And that includes as a romantic partner to Fox.

 

[MagnesD3]

The use of a Brawl-era poll might actually be cause of concern, especially if that poll is Japanese....

Let's not forget that (at least as of last time I am aware) Japan doesn't like Krystal, but instead prefers Falco....

And that includes as a romantic partner to Fox.

.... dear god...

 

[Thirdkoopa]

.... dear god...

Star Fox: Where surprisingly, the least scary fanfiction is Fox x Krystal.

...Let's not go any further than that, shall we?

 

[MagnesD3]

Star Fox: Where surprisingly, the least scary fanfiction is Fox x Krystal.

...Let's not go any further than that, shall we?

Falco.. Ive never noticed how oiley your feathers are....

 

[Sinn]

The use of a Brawl-era poll might actually be cause of concern, especially if that poll is Japanese....

Let's not forget that (at least as of last time I am aware) Japan doesn't like Krystal, but instead prefers Falco....

And that includes as a romantic partner to Fox.

I had to read this a few times before I realized that you were talking about Fox x Falco ._.;; It all makes sense now.

 

[Mewtario]

Japan also really likes Slippy and Tingle, though thankfully the makers of Smash Bros. have also kept in mind how reviled they are in the West.

 

[smashbro29]

I don't think she'll make it. They aren't trashing what they have now and they're definitely not giving 4 characters to Star Fox.

 

[Shorts]

Contrary to popular belief, our opinions do matter. And during Brawl, Krystal was at her height. She's still highly requested now, but back then it was even more so.

 

[N3ON]

Japan also really likes Slippy and Tingle, though thankfully the makers of Smash Bros. have also kept in mind how reviled they are in the West.

People exaggerate how popular these two are in Japan. Sure, they're both more accepted and generally not disliked over there, but they're also never going to top any popularity lists. Slippy isn't some huge popular character over there, it's more that they just view him... more neutrally than we do. Krystal would still definitely get in before him. And yeah Tingle has popularity over there to the extent he got his own games, but most of his games don't even do great there, so he as well isn't like some Japanese equivalent to like Little Mac or Ridley over there.

 

[jaytalks]

I think Krystal chances are dependent on the acknowledgement of Star Fox Adventures, since her moveset would be based on the game if she wasn't a clone. It would be poetic justice for her to take that moveset since it was originally her game anyway along with Sabre. I wouldn't want Tricky because I found him annoying in the game.

 

[Shorts]

Looks like Krystal fits the bill pretty easily, especially considering who she shares franchises with:

Sakurai: The first thing is to take an idea. For example, imagine a game and characters within that game. Take a character such as the villager in Animal Crossing. The next process is think about that character's role in their game and then the structure of the game we're making. How do those work together with each other? What kind of interesting things can you do within the structure of the game? And then if you were to actually implement that character, how would the end result be, how it works with other elements of the game?

An important thing is that the characters stand out from one another—for instance, we might wanna be able to take characters that aren't typically combat-based characters. So you might have a sword-based character, but other characters are not necessarily going to [have swords]. You're not gonna wanna focus on that sort of element, just so there's a distinction between all of the other combat-based characters.

They have to have something really unique that makes them stand apart from other characters in the game, and not limit yourself to characters that are just combat-based.

 

[MagnesD3]

Looks like Krystal fits the bill pretty easily, especially considering who she shares franchises with:

If I get krystal or ridley and no cuts ssb4 is already a winner in my book.

 

[Akenero]

Since this is the Krystal Thread, why not create an indisputable moveset?
Indisputable as in, she WILL have it if she's in.
If you don't know, you can change how the staff attacks by moving the control stick, so I think that's a good place to base her jab and tilts(possibly smashes) off of.
Obviously the staff powers are going to be her specials, and basically everyone says she should have the boost thing(forgot what it's called) and the Flame blast.
DO NOT LIMIT YOURSELF TO ADVENTURES ONLY!!! She is in other games and has been shown in artwork to use weapons I.e. grenades.
So...
Needed-practically everything!
Starting off, I'm going to say a Final Smash idea

Name-Saurian Strike: Krystal Focuses, creating a portal for the Dinosaur Planet inhabitants to go through, first off is Tricky from Command, Krystal jumps on him and yells-"Sauria!!!ATTACK!!!" in her native language. As she says that, many Dinos erupt from the portal, attacking her foes with ferocity. They attack depending on where the enemies are, as well as what dinos are summoned. Lightfoots and Cloudrunners and Hightops attack airborne opponents, while Earthwalkers, thorntails, and Snowhorns charge grounded foes. The dinosaurs are killable, but vary greatly. ~5 Lightfoots(5%?),~3 Cloudrunners(8%?) and 1 Hightop(40%?) ~3 Thorntails(10%), ~2 Earthwalkers(15%(not counting tricky)) and 1 Snowhorn(30%?)
Tricky is also using flame constantly, and you can aim(up to 20 degrees?) Flameblast/Ice thing?


The cloudrunner home map view ability Lylat Zone's the limit!
NOTE-I haven't played starfox adventures in quite a while, so I'm a bit rusty, I know what I am talking about however, and do remember enough to help out here. That or I'm crazy and stupidly lucky. You decide.

Also, how cool would it be if Marcus got a mention, and became canon?​

If anyone has any skill in making animations, we'd be able to make GIFs of the possible moves, showing exactly what the moves look like!​

​

DISCUSS​

 

[jaytalks]

Since this is the Krystal Thread, why not create an indisputable moveset?
Indisputable as in, she WILL have it if she's in.
If you don't know, you can change how the staff attacks by moving the control stick, so I think that's a good place to base her jab and tilts(possibly smashes) off of.
Obviously the staff powers are going to be her specials, and basically everyone says she should have the boost thing(forgot what it's called) and the Flame blast.
DO NOT LIMIT YOURSELF TO ADVENTURES ONLY!!! She is in other games and has been shown in artwork to use weapons I.e. grenades.
So...
Needed-practically everything!
Starting off, I'm going to say a Final Smash idea

Name-Saurian Strike: Krystal Focuses, creating a portal for the Dinosaur Planet inhabitants to go through, first off is Tricky from Command, Krystal jumps on him and yells-"Sauria!!!ATTACK!!!" in her native language. As she says that, many Dinos erupt from the portal, attacking her foes with ferocity. They attack depending on where the enemies are, as well as what dinos are summoned. Lightfoots and Cloudrunners and Hightops attack airborne opponents, while Earthwalkers, thorntails, and Snowhorns charge grounded foes. The dinosaurs are killable, but vary greatly. ~5 Lightfoots(5%?),~3 Cloudrunners(8%?) and 1 Hightop(40%?) ~3 Thorntails(10%), ~2 Earthwalkers(15%(not counting tricky)) and 1 Snowhorn(30%?)
Tricky is also using flame constantly, and you can aim(up to 20 degrees?) Flameblast/Ice thing?


The cloudrunner home map view ability Lylat Zone's the limit!
NOTE-I haven't played starfox adventures in quite a while, so I'm a bit rusty, I know what I am talking about however, and do remember enough to help out here. That or I'm crazy and stupidly lucky. You decide.

Also, how cool would it be if Marcus got a mention, and became canon?​

DISCUSS​

I actually feel like her non-Adventures games give her a better chance of getting, since Nintendo doesn't really acknowledge she in them.

I feel like her specials would be similar to other Star Fox characters, but she would take out her staff for smash attacks. I would try to diversify the final smashes of the starfox crew, so I give her an arwing final smash.

Final Smash:
Arwing -
Like snake, she gets a certain amount of lasers in a certain amount of time. There would be a delay because they would be like charged shots. With the last shot, the arwing will focus with a special lock on and anyone caught in the Arwing will fly right into, killing them.

 

[Akenero]

I actually feel like her non-Adventures games give her a better chance of getting, since Nintendo doesn't really acknowledge she in them.

I feel like her specials would be similar to other Star Fox characters, but she would take out her staff for smash attacks. I would try to diversify the final smashes of the starfox crew, so I give her an arwing final smash.

Final Smash:
Arwing -
Like snake, she gets a certain amount of lasers in a certain amount of time. There would be a delay because they would be like charged shots. With the last shot, the arwing will focus with a special lock on and anyone caught in the Arwing will fly right into, killing them.

But Adventure was her first appearance, and the game with the most diversity. She's the only one who has actual combat experience and a non-blaster weapon. And the diversity of the powers basically screams "GET ME IN SMASH!!!"
But you did take into account her other games, which I did explicitly ask for. Now we just have to see what people think about it.

 

[Shadow312]

The fact that she has that staff and is a telepath, accompanied with her skill in regular combat, makes her move set have so many options

 

[MagnesD3]

Since this is the Krystal Thread, why not create an indisputable moveset?
Indisputable as in, she WILL have it if she's in.
If you don't know, you can change how the staff attacks by moving the control stick, so I think that's a good place to base her jab and tilts(possibly smashes) off of.
Obviously the staff powers are going to be her specials, and basically everyone says she should have the boost thing(forgot what it's called) and the Flame blast.
DO NOT LIMIT YOURSELF TO ADVENTURES ONLY!!! She is in other games and has been shown in artwork to use weapons I.e. grenades.
So...
Needed-practically everything!
Starting off, I'm going to say a Final Smash idea

Name-Saurian Strike: Krystal Focuses, creating a portal for the Dinosaur Planet inhabitants to go through, first off is Tricky from Command, Krystal jumps on him and yells-"Sauria!!!ATTACK!!!" in her native language. As she says that, many Dinos erupt from the portal, attacking her foes with ferocity. They attack depending on where the enemies are, as well as what dinos are summoned. Lightfoots and Cloudrunners and Hightops attack airborne opponents, while Earthwalkers, thorntails, and Snowhorns charge grounded foes. The dinosaurs are killable, but vary greatly. ~5 Lightfoots(5%?),~3 Cloudrunners(8%?) and 1 Hightop(40%?) ~3 Thorntails(10%), ~2 Earthwalkers(15%(not counting tricky)) and 1 Snowhorn(30%?)
Tricky is also using flame constantly, and you can aim(up to 20 degrees?) Flameblast/Ice thing?


The cloudrunner home map view ability Lylat Zone's the limit!
NOTE-I haven't played starfox adventures in quite a while, so I'm a bit rusty, I know what I am talking about however, and do remember enough to help out here. That or I'm crazy and stupidly lucky. You decide.

Also, how cool would it be if Marcus got a mention, and became canon?​

If anyone has any skill in making animations, we'd be able to make GIFs of the possible moves, showing exactly what the moves look like!​

​

DISCUSS​

Here is my specials for her.

B: Fire/Ice shot: by tapping b Krystal will enter an aiming stance where you can aim up or down depending on the joystick direction you tilt too. Tap b in this mode to shoot a quick moving fire shot, hold b to have a short range icy beam come out of the top of the staff (similar to ice climber blizzard but you can move during and aim up or down. (Tap left or right twice quickly for her to turn around.) (to exit this stance mode hit any other attack buttons, roll, jump, shield or dodge.

B Up: Staff lift: Krystal takes staff vertically and white light comes out of the bottom end of her staff and shoots her straight up pretty high and somewhat quickly, it can be charged by holding down b, the longer charged the higher and faster Krystal will go up. Also damage will increase on hit when charged.

B Over: Staff Twirl: this is one of the attack patterns fox used in sfa, Krystal takes her staff then twirls it in a circle on one side of you and then the other, afterwards by tapping b Krystal will do a fast hop then staff slam attack just like sfa, it can be done one more time if you input b a second time.

B Down: Staff Quake: Krystal does a sluggish lumbering jump then slams the staff straight into the ground where an earthquake occurs in a certain distance, grounded characters hit by the earthquake take some damage and are stunned for a minute ( to give time for a smash attack) if they are hit by the staff then it does a ton of damage and knock back, it can be charged by holding b to increase the earthquake distance, damage and knockback of the move, when done in air the range, damage, and knockback are determined by how long it takes for Krystal to reach the ground.

 

[Gallowglass]

People exaggerate how popular these two are in Japan. Sure, they're both more accepted and generally not disliked over there, but they're also never going to top any popularity lists. Slippy isn't some huge popular character over there, it's more that they just view him... more neutrally than we do. Krystal would still definitely get in before him. And yeah Tingle has popularity over there to the extent he got his own games, but most of his games don't even do great there, so he as well isn't like some Japanese equivalent to like Little Mac or Ridley over there.

You forget that Tingle is the only Zelda character to get his own spin-off game (not counting the CD-I games). He must have had some major popularity since he's really just a minor character in the Zelda games.

Honestly haven't heard anything about this Falco being popular and Krystal being hated in Japan. In Starfox 64 Falco even has an ex-girlfriend in the game and he doesn't really show much love to Fox in that sort of matter. I really can't see Falco being the Captain Jack of the Lylat system.

 

[MagnesD3]

I hope Kat is in a new star fox with her old pink look instead of that crappy redesign from command

 

[LaniusShrike]

I definitely feel like taking her moveset from the staff is the easiest way to easily differentiate herself from the other Space Animals, whoever else gets in. If anyone gets a space grenade or a different kind of space blaster, I want it to go straight to either Falco or Wolf. I think, to make a character feel like a justifiable inclusion, they need to immediately be clearly different from the other characters already in the game.
(Yes, that's just my opinion; not saying that it's how Sakurai picks characters)

And, besides, if you focus on her staff her moveset is super obvious. Like Magnes' moveset and many others indicate, she will have Staff Quake, Staff Rocket, and Staff Fire/Ice... the staff attacks could've been designed with a game like Smash in mind, practically.

I wouldn't mind if the staff attacks she got for her standards were more visually interesting than Fox's combat style, though. He was new to staff fighting, but I'd want Krystal to really show off how experienced she is and go full Shao-lin with it. It'd be a good opportunity to incorporate a real-world fighting style with some added flare.

 

[MagnesD3]

I really hope every hit makes the same noise from adventures lol

 

[Shorts]

I think if she's added, as staff moveset is almost garunteed because of how much Sakurai is emphasizing on interesting playstyles. I like the Fire, Ice, Rocket Boost, and Quake movesets the most. But that final Smash with the Dinos is really cool too. I think these moves altogether would make for a cool moveset