Pretty in pink or true in blue, Krystal for Sm4sh!

[Fire Emblemier]

There needs to be an epic starfox game before marcus can exist, I could see him as the future leader of star fox with a new star fox team later on but the sf series needs awakened again before that happens.

I rather keep the present team, maybe adding him to it, but I feel Command is non-canon, but I'm not exactly sure, is their a source to tell whether it's canon or not. What I want is a Starfox game using the pros of all of them, so we could have a great game. Yet, some people don't think of Krystal as Pro, even though I do.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

command was canon

and then it was deemed not canon if i recall right

 

[MagnesD3]

command was canon

and then it was deemed not canon if i recall right

Command is currently uncannon (thank god) but I was merely suggesting using the name marcus for fox's son, I like the name, just because the game is uncannon doesnt mean certain ideas from it cant develop in other games.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

command was canon

and then it was deemed not canon if i recall right

Command is currently uncannon (thank god) but I was merely suggesting using the name marcus for fox's son, I like the name, just because the game is uncannon doesnt mean certain ideas from it cant develop in other games.

Is their any source, so I don't have to worry since no ending IMO was perfect. Sure they can add Marcus, but please remove the part with Fox and Krystal quitting. All the endings had a downside, to it, so I didn't feel any was meant to be real.

 

[MagnesD3]

Is their any source, so I don't have to worry since no ending IMO was perfect. Sure they can add Marcus, but please remove the part with Fox and Krystal quitting. All the endings had a downside, to it, so I didn't feel any was meant to be real.

do not worry it is confirmed, Its been addressed on a couple occasions as being non cannon, (sry about the source though I dont know where to look since command came out quite a while ago..)

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Anyways, do you guys think there's a chance for reveal on Tuesday for her, or do you think it will just be Dojo.

 

[FalKoopa]

Anyways, do you guys think there's a chance for reveal on Tuesday for her, or do you think it will just be Dojo.

I think Dojo. There are many good picks for the trailer already (K. Rool, Ridley, Mewtwo etc.)

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I think Palutena would be the female character in the trailer but Krystal would be kept for later. Wolf was kept entirely secret, remember? And so many of us refused to believe the leaked roster because it had him instead of her?

*sigh*

 

[Thirdkoopa]

I think Palutena would be the female character in the trailer but Krystal would be kept for later. Wolf was kept entirely secret, remember? And so many of us refused to believe the leaked roster because it had him instead of her?

*sigh*

actually what really caught people off was R.O.B. - The moment he was about 100% confirmed it was all believed

I think Krystal would be Dojo'd most likely (If we get a Dojo this time around)

 

[MagnesD3]

I personally think that Krystal will be in the trailer for some reason, idk why I just felt she would fit in one of the many cameos of a trailer.

 

[Shorts]

Attacking her's just the cool kid thing to do now with her decline in support, not that I care for her either.

There isn't as much support as in Brawl, but it isn't "declining". Hell, Palutena as of now is like, 30 votes ahead of her. She's right up there with the most popular characters pretty much.

One of the reasons I stopped numbering the results and went back to tiers was because of the implications that some are "more popular" because of the number they have next to their name, when in reality, most of the High - Mid tiers are within 30 votes of one another.

It's nice to see this thread recover quickly from trolls. Smashboards just doesn't like Krystal. I've never had much problems discussing her on other board. I mean, I've had dectractors, but nothing like the ***** here who really just post here to be *****.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

There isn't as much support as in Brawl, but it isn't "declining".

It's nice to see this thread recover quickly from trolls. Smashboards just doesn't like Krystal. I've never had much problems discussing her on other boards.

I might jinx myself, but there are no hater's or troll's on this page, so far, SUCCESS!

 

[Shorts]

Well I imagine this place will be ridiculous when E3 comes around. I, for one, will try my best to stay away.

 

[FalKoopa]

I might jinx myself, but there are no hater's or troll's on this page, so far, SUCCESS!

I'm curious as to how long it will last. Come Tuesday, we'll see.

Well I imagine this place will be ridiculous when E3 comes around. I, for one, will try my best to stay away.

Ninja'd.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I know one thing, if she's in the Smash 4 trailer we'll all be laughing while the hater post their rage here.

 

[Shorts]

Yeah, haha exactly. Although I would say she's probably a DOJO reveal.

 

[MagnesD3]

You have no clue how happy I would be if Krystal is in the trailer, smile from cheek to cheek.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Well let's see if Nintendo Direct has a foxy blue fox today.

 

[DarkKry4]

omg someone really thought she was gonna be in the trailer? *giggles* Shes not really important enough to be a character they would want to showcase a game for iconic nintendo characters. Megaman's a** might be capcom but at least hes iconic (and the star of his own game). Sorry but thats just the truth.

 

[LaniusShrike]

Ah shoot, looks like Fox has found a new lover...

Fox x Rush... I'm sure that's a fanfic somewhere.

 

[Shorts]

Nope, but I'm actually more optomistic after that trailer. Kind of destroys everyone's past notions about Smash.

>No way, minimal cuts
- Good chance TLink was revealed cut in the first Trailer

>Ridley will probably be in the trailer, along with Palutena/K Rool/Takamaru/Little Mac ect.
Nope. Only two revealed, and the Nintendo character that we all thought was guaranteed out.

Goes to show that I've been right all along, we think too much about Smash, and you never know what's really going to happen with this roster.

 

[N3ON]

Spirit Tracks Link isn't the same as WW or PH Link, he's hardly confirmed to be cut.

 

[Curious Villager]

Spirit Tracks Link isn't the same as WW or PH Link, he's hardly confirmed to be cut.

THIS! It's the same thing as Donkey Kong in the 75M stage in Brawl. We should wait and see before we draw conclusions.

 

[Shorts]

Except Donkey in 75m doesn't look, you know, look exactly like regular Donkey Kong.

I think it's definitely possible Toon Link was cut.

Anyways, let's move TL discussion to not here.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

omg someone really thought she was gonna be in the trailer? *giggles* Shes not really important enough to be a character they would want to showcase a game for iconic nintendo characters. Megaman's a** might be capcom but at least hes iconic (and the star of his own game). Sorry but thats just the truth.

Looks like I jinxed myself oh well... MEGAMAN! Anyways with Megaman and AC guy in the game, Krystal might have a better chance. Don't ask me wy just a gut feeling. Plus I was just wanting to see which people thought who's likely-er, you don't have to be nasty about it.

 

[DarkKry4]

Looks like I jinxed myself oh well... MEGAMAN! Anyways with Megaman and AC guy in the game, Krystal might have a better chance. Don't ask me wy just a gut feeling. Plus I was just wanting to see which people thought who's likely-er, you don't have to be nasty about it.

I'm not being nasty about anything. I'm just being truthful. I always felt the entitlement here was a bit too much. I'm here to tell it like is (and i'm being labeled as a troll for it). Everyone seems to have these delusional opinions about why she should be in. As we all saw today, she has no chance. Especially when you see the type of characters Sakurai chose this time around (and with the previous statements he made) . Fact is, she never had a chance but her 10 fans don't want to admit it. Some people had the gall to think she was gonna be in the trailer -_-

At least people know Wii Fit Trainer, Animal Crossing, and Megaman. The average person isn't gonna know some random starfox character (a series not even that popular). So why would they put her in a trailer announcing a game as important as this?

Shes not as important as people smashboard users make her out to be. Period.

 

[Curious Villager]

Except Donkey in 75m doesn't look, you know, look exactly like regular Donkey Kong.

I think it's definitely possible Toon Link was cut.

Anyways, let's move TL discussion to not here.

Toon Link in that Spirit Train stage doesn't either actually, and it's not even the same person. But okay, that's off-topic stuff. >_>

 

[MagnesD3]

Looks like I jinxed myself oh well... MEGAMAN! Anyways with Megaman and AC guy in the game, Krystal might have a better chance. Don't ask me wy just a gut feeling. Plus I was just wanting to see which people thought who's likely-er, you don't have to be nasty about it.

He does have to be nasty about it, he's a troll thats what they do. They try to rustle jimmies.

 

[Sinn]

I'm not being nasty about anything. I'm just being truthful. I always felt the entitlement here was a bit too much. I'm here to tell it like is (and i'm being labeled as a troll for it). Everyone seems to have these delusional opinions about why she should be in. As we all saw today, she has no chance. Especially when you see the type of characters Sakurai chose this time around (and with the previous statements he made) . Fact is, she never had a chance but her 10 fans don't want to admit it. Some people had the gall to think she was gonna be in the trailer -_-

At least people know Wii Fit Trainer, Animal Crossing, and Megaman. The average person isn't gonna know some random starfox character (a series not even that popular). So why would they put her in a trailer announcing a game as important as this?

Shes not as important as people smashboard users make her out to be. Period.

The way you "tell it like it is" seems just as subjective as you claim the opinions of her supporters are.

Why are their opinions delusional?

How exactly did anything they showed on Tuesday demonstrate that she has no chance?

I agree that I wasn't really expecting her to be in the trailer, but I had pretty low expectations for the trailer to begin with (hate getting my hopes up, just in case).

 

[Fire Emblemier]

At least people know Wii Fit Trainer, Animal Crossing, and Megaman. The average person isn't gonna know some random starfox character (a series not even that popular). So why would they put her in a trailer announcing a game as important as this?

Shes not as important as people smashboard users make her out to be. Period.

The average person isn't going to know the FE cast, Mother Cast and even Cpt. Falcon. This point doesn't lower her chances, Sakurai goes for characters, that HE thinks will be well in the game, we just want to show our support because we would like to see Krystal, not because she's a shoe-in or anything. Anyways, I don't see how her chances being Lowered from the trailer, there's nothing stopping her from what I saw, may you explain.

 

[Shorts]

Don't feed the trolls, children.

 

[Mewtario]

Just going to revitalize this thread and simultaneously give a thought on how to perhaps get this thread more active:

The largest amount of support seems to be for her to use her Saurian outfit in the series.

However, the Super Smash Bros. series is pretty notable for making small modifications and mixtures to character designs and attacks. For example, Fox's current design falls somewhere between Command, 64, and probably a few others in terms of looks, and even has some Super Smash Bros.-only aspects in it (For an example that hits me off the top of my head, Firebird actually started as a SSB attack, only entering the Star Fox universe via Star Fox 64 3D multiplayer after the fact).

One such modification, which is a bit more necessary than others, is made to characters where things might otherwise get... awkward with the SSB series camera. Kilts or skirts in particular get changed (in particular, Link and Pitt both got distinct sets of shorts or pants). Krystal's Saurian outfit seems like a manifold case in terms of having both a short and, er... open groin covering (at least if it were a long dress, the whole "legs disappear into a void" solution could be used, as seen with Peach and Zelda) and not even really having a "complete" one at that (this fairly popular drawing in the SSB Miiverse community perhaps inadvertently shows the problem [or solution, if that's what you're into] with her outfit as it's currently designed).

So as a hype-building exercise, how about having a de facto contest to redesign Krystal's Star Fox Adventures outfit into something more SSB-friendly? As with all SSB outfit redesigns, the end goal would be an outfit which keeps the character clearly identifiable with the character from the series at a glance, but at least slightly more modest and, if possible, more detailed than in the original game.

 

[LaniusShrike]

Just going to revitalize this thread and simultaneously give a thought on how to perhaps get this thread more active:

The largest amount of support seems to be for her to use her Saurian outfit in the series.

However, the Super Smash Bros. series is pretty notable for making small modifications and mixtures to character designs and attacks. For example, Fox's current design falls somewhere between Command, 64, and probably a few others in terms of looks, and even has some Super Smash Bros.-only aspects in it (For an example that hits me off the top of my head, Firebird actually started as a SSB attack, only entering the Star Fox universe via Star Fox 64 3D multiplayer after the fact).

One such modification, which is a bit more necessary than others, is made to characters where things might otherwise get... awkward with the SSB series camera. Kilts or skirts in particular get changed (in particular, Link and Pitt both got distinct sets of shorts or pants). Krystal's Saurian outfit seems like a manifold case in terms of having both a short and, er... open groin covering (at least if it were a long dress, the whole "legs disappear into a void" solution could be used, as seen with Peach and Zelda) and not even really having a "complete" one at that (this fairly popular drawing in the SSB Miiverse community perhaps inadvertently shows the problem [or solution, if that's what you're into] with her outfit as it's currently designed).

So as a hype-building exercise, how about having a de facto contest to redesign Krystal's Star Fox Adventures outfit into something more SSB-friendly? As with all SSB outfit redesigns, the end goal would be an outfit which keeps the character clearly identifiable with the character from the series at a glance, but at least slightly more modest and, if possible, more detailed than in the original game.

Hehe. This popped up when I was looking for something that'd work.

Word o' warning Mewtario, Shortie doesn't like it when you point out when a character he likes isn't dressed appropriately for Smash.

 

[Shadow312]

If she would be in the game, I hope it's her assault outfit. (With the Starfox Adventures staff, despite that being a weird combination.) She looks much more like a member of the team...and it's more appropriate :|
I am hoping this is the game where there can finally be 4 characters from the Starfox series in one match. (Ideally Krystal)

 

[IsmaR]

I think it'd be her Assault outfit for an abundance of reasons. Namco made StarFox Assault, it's the outfit she had in her cameo in Brawl, etc..

Would love a Sauria alt, though.

 

[Shorts]

I would say the opposite. Her supporters almost always want her in her Assault outfit. Saurian is okay, and Command is disgusting.

 

[Mewtario]

Yeah, I see that now. Personally, I would be afraid that an Assault outfit might be setting her up to be another clone out of the series, for a character so different from the others that she wasn't even supposed to be from the series originally! Still, the Assault outfit does indeed allow for more detail (although the other costume would give the modelers more of a chance to show off the fur rendering system they've managed to absolutely nail).

 

[EddyBearr]

Hate Hate Hate, Troll Troll, Hate Hate Hate, Troll Troll Troll, Krystal sucks.


I hope she's in smash 4. She needs her Adventures outfit

 

[N3ON]

My preference would definitely be the Assault outfit, or some variation of it with the Saurian one as an alt if anything, was never wild about it. And the Command one can stop existing and stay outta Smash.

However since Fox appears to be based on his 64 outfit mostly, if somehow Krystal did get in I would guess she'd perhaps have a new design based around the 64 style, similar to Sheik in Brawl with TP. Hopefully it's close to her Assault appearance though, and not that Command nonsense. We get it, they're girls, they don't all have to be pink... except for the one that's actually supposed to be pink but isn't...

 

[Akenero]

Honestly, nobody thinks about Tricky coming along with her but whatever.
She's the only one who has ever been in 2 ground based combat games, one of which was a part time deal, the other she was all gun-ho.
The fact that Star Fox Adventures utilizes her staff, which has many abilities easily applied to smash, and Star Fox Assault utilizes more futuristic weaponry(hasn't play assault) means she could be an easy mix. Stuff like her Dual wielding would be cool.

As in her staff in one hand, posed like a shotgun, and a blaster in the other for her Neutral B. Taking out the blaster would still work.
A strange cross with the illusions and her staff could be something like her tossing the staff, waiting a bit, and then teleporting over.
That kinda thing
But what we all want is her to have a completely Unique moveset.