Pressure is a terrible ability - Spire is a n00b lol

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Sure, it's good for PP stalling against Stone Edge, Blizzard, Gyro Ball, and many other attacks. But couldn't Game Freak have given some legendaries a better ability?

What if Articuno had Snow Warning, or if Moltres had Drought? They might finally rise up out of NU/UU (respectively).

Why on earth doesn't Dusknoir have Levitate? Just look at him!

Does Game Freak just slap on Pressure on any Pokemon for which they're too lazy to make a new ability?

 

[How Diddy Do Dat?]

Yes, that is exactly what they do.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

ALso, Zapdos should have that ability that makes it permenantly rain...My rain team would love that.

 

[Greenstreet]

I dunno, Dusknoir looks pretty intense... I'm losing some PP just looking at him.

 

[Da-D-Mon-109]

:flame:
There is little reason for those Pokemon to have Pressure. You are right. And yeah, Articuno should have Snow-Warning, Zapdos should have Drizzle, and Moltres should have Drought. It stinks that this generation is so Rock Biased... kinda like Sakurai and Metaknight getting his own theme song... neither one deserves what ups they have been given, and yet they still have it.

This seems more realistic than Upgrading Earthquake (no offensve to that thread, but dang, why does that move possibly deserve an upgrade?)
:flame:

 

[Bowser King]

I dunno, Dusknoir looks pretty intense... I'm losing some PP just looking at him.

lol

Though I agree that Pressure is stupid but if a lot of the legendaries had something else they'd be pretty broken. As for the legendary birds, I agree that they need a new ability.

-Bowser King

 

[Firus]

:flame:
This seems more realistic than Upgrading Earthquake (no offensve to that thread, but dang, why does that move possibly deserve an upgrade?)
:flame:

They were asking for an upgrade to make it realistic, not because Earthquake isn't good enough.

 

[Chill]

Pressure doesn't suck.

It just sucks that pressure was given to so many legendaries as a blanket ability. Every legend from the GSC era and before got it.

The birds should have the weather abilities, Lugia and Ho-oh should either have those or something else. Pressure is ok on the dogs but flame body, volt absorb and water aborb would be ok too.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

WHile we are on the subject of pokemon that should have abilities...

Magnezone's other ability should be levitation instead of sturdy...

 

[Wave⁂]

If Magnezone had Levitate... well, let's just say I'd actually use him.

 

[Da-D-Mon-109]

:flame:
Dude, this game just feels like it needs more balance, period...

Magmotar's Flame Body verses Electivire's Motor Drive. Enough said.

And about the Earthquake conversation, it went from Earthquake to Wailord and Skitty and Diglett making all Pokemon, with some Arceus Mew Religion stuff strown in there, to the fundamentals of being Burned... so.... yeah...

AND WE CAN'T HAVE A MAGNEZONE WITH LEVITATE! HE'LL BE SEEN AS TOO GOOD AND BE MOVED UP TO THE UBERS!
:flame:

 

[Mic_128]

Can't Magnezone learn that attack that gives him levitate?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Can't Magnezone learn that attack that gives him levitate?

Magnezone isn't fast enough to survive long enough for that move to really matter.

Magnezone also may have great special, but it's defenses suck.

The move is basically worthless for him since the only magnezone with the speed to use it first is a choice (scarf?) and a choice user can't use any other attack than the first one they use.

etc. etc.

 

[Circa]

I agree with what you said about pressure. Wayyy too many Pokemon have it. However, Dusknoir having Pressure makes sense to me. Not the legendary birds though. They need the weather effects, tbh.

And if they did that, then I think Lugia should get Air Lock like Rayquaza. It just makes sense, if you ask me. :\

Oh, and as for Magnezone and making it fast enough...you could just be a douche and give it a quick claw. It won't work often, but it will work eventually. I would have said to just bring it in against Blissey, but being special-based makes that idea dumb.

 

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Max speed Magneton with a +Spe nature would be able to get a Magnet Rise off on slower pokemon. And lots of Ground types are fairly slow.

 

[CRASHiC]

Ho-oh should have sandstorm.

The real problem is wrong pokemon having pressure.

Sweepers should not have Pressure. Tanks should have pressure.

 

[Bowser King]

I agree with what you said about pressure. Wayyy too many Pokemon have it. However, Dusknoir having Pressure makes sense to me. Not the legendary birds though. They need the weather effects, tbh.

And if they did that, then I think Lugia should get Air Lock like Rayquaza. It just makes sense, if you ask me. :\

Oh, and as for Magnezone and making it fast enough...you could just be a douche and give it a quick claw. It won't work often, but it will work eventually. I would have said to just bring it in against Blissey, but being special-based makes that idea dumb.

I think I heard something about quick claw not being allowed on shoddy. I'm not to sure though. I'm not really that sure of the rules of IRL tournies though.

-Bowser King

 

[Wave⁂]

Quick Claw is banned in the official Smogon server (it always fails), IIRC.

 

[Blackroserade66]

Pressure doesn't suck.

It just sucks that pressure was given to so many legendaries as a blanket ability. Every legend from the GSC era and before got it.

You forget about Celibi, .

But the birds getting weather abilities would be truly amazing. That would make Sun and Rain teams much more playable, and my hail team would do a little dance as well. Pressure I don't mind on Ho-oh/Lugia/Entei/Raikou/Suicune, seeing as if they also got weather abilities then Weather teams would be whored quite a lot.

 

[momochuu]

I just saw a thread on another forum just like this one and I agree. Most of the legendaries having pressure makes zero sense to me. =/ I think Mewtwo should have it's own ability too. The birds definitely need the weather abilities. Game Freak seems to just throw abilites on Pokemon now. Why doesn't Weavile have Snow Cloak or something?

 

[M.K]

I just saw a thread on another forum just like this one and I agree. Most of the legendaries having pressure makes zero sense to me. =/ I think Mewtwo should have it's own ability too. The birds definitely need the weather abilities. Game Freak seems to just throw abilites on Pokemon now. Why doesn't Weavile have Snow Cloak or something?

Weavile sort of makes sense to me. Due to it's fast speed and lightning quick attacks/dodging abilities, the Pokemon attacking Weavile might become panicked (i.e, pressured) and fire off attacks left and right in desperate attempts to hit Weavile, effectively lowering the PP of it's moves.

This is just in an Anime-ish sort of sense, I don't really understand how PP works into that >_>'

 

[Wrath`]

I like the Idea of Zapdos having Drizzle, but would it make him uber? Now that thunder would have 100% accuracy right off the get-go?



Also I have problems with intimidate, I hate pokemon who haveit that don't deserve it. Ekans,Growlith,Snubull, Stantler(Yes it has big horns, but still a deer intimidating an Infernape?),Hitmontop, Strvia, Staraptor, and the Shinx evolution line.

It should eb that you can only intimidate those with lower defence mabey?

 

[Circa]

Weavile sort of makes sense to me. Due to it's fast speed and lightning quick attacks/dodging abilities, the Pokemon attacking Weavile might become panicked (i.e, pressured) and fire off attacks left and right in desperate attempts to hit Weavile, effectively lowering the PP of it's moves.

This is just in an Anime-ish sort of sense, I don't really understand how PP works into that >_>'

QFT. I was going to say that earlier, but I never understood Dusknoir's reasoning for having it, tbh.

And as for Snow Cloak...it can't hide in snow. Just look at it! The only part of its body that is white is its claws, and every other color it has is...well, nowhere near white. Thus, I could possibly see an ability that gives all of his moves 100% accuracy in hail instead (you know...because you can't see his claws, which he mainly attacks with).

Also I have problems with intimidate, I hate pokemon who haveit that don't deserve it. Ekans,Growlith,Snubull, Stantler(Yes it has big horns, but still a deer intimidating an Infernape?),Hitmontop, Strvia, Staraptor, and the Shinx evolution line.

It should eb that you can only intimidate those with lower defence mabey?

Although I don't understand Growlithe, Staravia, and possibly Snubull (its teeth do give it some viability...), the others make sense. Ekans is a snake, and a lot of people are afraid of snakes. Stantler's intimidate comes from the show, when it used its antlers to create illusions and confuse/scare people in forests (or I believe that's how it went...I haven't seen the episode in a while). Hitmontop is spinning on its head while attacking. The amazingness in that alone would intimidate me. Staraptor's just got that "I'll kick your *** any day of the week" composure, and same goes for the likes of at least Luxio and Luxray. I think they just got lazy with Shinx though...it should have gotten Run Away.

 

[Wrath`]

Ekans is a small snake, hence why I think Arbok is correct to have intimidate.

Stantler, I do remember that episode, but didn't it use the move confuse to make it seem scary?

Hitmontop is 4 feet tall.........ohh scary, that means Hitmonlee should have intimidate too, it looks just as indtimidating, and Hitmontop is not constantly spining.

Staraptor is a 4 foot tall bird. Yes it looks badass. But I think Tyranitar or most other tough rock types would laugh at it.

Luxio/Luxray look like Absol somewhat, but I don't see intimidate on him.

Most seem to be a matter of opinion, so I think there needs to be some equation/system to weather or not intimidate works.

Edit: Wailord needs intimidate..............who wouldn't be afraid of a GIANT whale?

 

[momochuu]

Weavile sort of makes sense to me. Due to it's fast speed and lightning quick attacks/dodging abilities, the Pokemon attacking Weavile might become panicked (i.e, pressured) and fire off attacks left and right in desperate attempts to hit Weavile, effectively lowering the PP of it's moves.

This is just in an Anime-ish sort of sense, I don't really understand how PP works into that >_>'

Ah, I can actually see that. :3 Makes sense. With Dusknoir, it's pretty scary so it's understandable. :x

And yeah, when you think about it, Zapdos with 100% accuracy Thunder is madd broken. Maybe Volt Absorb would work because of it's pokedex description.

I think the only pokemon with intimidate that it doesn't work on is Staravia. Staraptor makes sense. Tyranitar would be afraid of Staraptor because of that Close Combat. :3

 

[Circa]

Ekans is a small snake, hence why I think Arbok is correct to have intimidate.

Stantler, I do remember that episode, but didn't it use the move confuse to make it seem scary?

Hitmontop is 4 feet tall.........ohh scary, that means Hitmonlee should have intimidate too, it looks just as indtimidating, and Hitmontop is not constantly spining.

Staraptor is a 4 foot tall bird. Yes it looks badass. But I think Tyranitar or most other tough rock types would laugh at it.

Luxio/Luxray look like Absol somewhat, but I don't see intimidate on him.

Most seem to be a matter of opinion, so I think there needs to be some equation/system to weather or not intimidate works.

Ekans: "It can freely detach its jaw to swallow large prey whole. It can become too heavy to move, however." If that's not intimidating, I don't know what is. D: Plus it's a rattlesnake, which uses its rattle to scare away predators.

Stantler: Nope. Actually, the one that Ash and the group met only knew Tackle; which is the one that first created an illusion. A lot of the Pokedex entries for Stantler talk about such things as well. Not intimidating, mind you, but things about messing with senses.

Hitmontop: "It fights while spinning like a top. The centrifugal force boosts its destructive power by ten."; "After doing a handstand to throw off the opponent's timing, it presents its fancy kick moves." It's a stretch, but between the two it seems as though throwing off its opponents in some way would happen. As for Hitmonlee, I never actually understood it not having Intimidate. Things that can stretch their legs to hit me with immense power and speed from many, many feet away is scary as hell.

Staraptor: Kawaii covered it. =3

Luxio/Luxray: Just like Hitmonlee, I never understood Absol not having Intimidate. Even moreso actually, seeing as its sighting means some really bad things are about to happen. I guess they thought Pressure worked better for it or something. Idk. As for themselves, they're both based off lions. Need I say more?

And to get back on track...I guess I might as well mention Absol for Pressure. I mean seriously, wtf!? Just because you kill it doesn't mean bad things still aren't going to happen. And its not fast enough to usually make good use of its immense power anyway, so it doesn't even get Weavile's reason to work with.

 

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Off-topic: Luxray seriously needs Volt Tackle.

I don't think it'd make much sense for Ekans and Arbok to have different abilities. Sure, it makes sense in other evolution lines. But Ekans and Arbok are essentailly the same.

 

[Shiri]

Luxray doesn't need Volt Tackle.

It just needs a decent speed stat.

Poor electrics. <3 Luxray, though. :3

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Max speed Magneton with a +Spe nature would be able to get a Magnet Rise off on slower pokemon. And lots of Ground types are fairly slow.

Ground types aren't the only pokemon with Earthquake

 

[Shiri]

Ground types aren't the only pokemon with Earthquake

Oh man...there was this one pkmn...

Sala...Salamander...?

M...Mencemeat...?

I can't remember its name.

It was huge, though. And you could teach it EQ.

It was pretty GG.

On topic, I agree. Pressure is pretty bad for non-stall pkmn.

 

[Bowser King]

Oh man...there was this one pkmn...

Sala...Salamander...?

M...Mencemeat...?

I can't remember its name.

It was huge, though. And you could teach it EQ.

It was pretty GG.

On topic, I agree. Pressure is pretty bad for non-stall pkmn.

lol

Some pokes need better abilities. Magmortar should have something like "Steam Engine" that raises his Speed or Sp. Atk when hit by fire.

Seriously some pokes have really stupid abilities. Like birds with Keen Eye, which is completely useless when compared to certain pokes that have abilities that make them COMPLETELY protected from all stat lowering moves. Keen Eye only protects accuracy, something that doesn't get lowered often.


-Bowser King

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Oh man...there was this one pkmn...

Sala...Salamander...?

M...Mencemeat...?

I can't remember its name.

It was huge, though. And you could teach it EQ.

It was pretty GG.

On topic, I agree. Pressure is pretty bad for non-stall pkmn.

I think you mean Salamance.

Actully, it's not that big at 4'11"

 

[supermarth64]

I think you mean Salamance.

Actully, it's not that big at 4'11"

Nah, what are you talking about. He obviously meant Garchomp.

(6'3")

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Nah, what are you talking about. He obviously meant Garchomp.

(6'3")

Well, the salama and the mence part of what he wrote made me think of salamance...

But yeah, Garchomp is fast enough and strong enough to take out Magnezone with EQ before he can activate Magnet Rise

 

[Wave⁂]

What's a Meatmander?

 

[Zook]

I've been interested in starting up a modded Shoddy Battle server with better/more logical abilities for certain Pokemon (Moltres with Drought, Articuno with Hail, etc.), but I never got around to it.

 

[Grunt]

do it f4ggot please, ever so amazing Zook.
i would totally play on that server.

 

[c3gill]

pressure means my suicune outstalls a blissey, 1v1.

it needs to stay, and it rocks

 

[Niiro]

i <3 the ability 'pressure,' but like some person said, it is just used as a ****ty 'blanket ability' for most of the legendaries. boo.

 

[randomness_FTW!]

Weavile with pressure is absolutely useless. A better abillity for it would have been like snow cloak or guts.