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Pokémon Black and White (WARNING: SPOILERS)

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Ryu Shimazu

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Honestly, all the grass types are lame up until now. Venasaur is mehsaur.The rest gradually declined. Now fire types appearance is declining and grass is on the rise. Water, however, has always been decent.
 

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Honestly, all the grass types are lame up until now. Venasaur is mehsaur.The rest gradually declined. Now fire types appearance is declining and grass is on the rise. Water, however, has always been decent.
Rock Polish Torterra disagrees.

Meganium weeps tears of sorrow.
 

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Rock Polish Torterra disagrees.

Meganium weeps tears of sorrow.

I'm talking appearance, not usefulness. The Torterra family has three problems:

A) Second evo looks like Spike from The Land Before Time

B) a Tree on it's back

C) A+B
 

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^ A is 75% of the reason why it's a failure

I sure hope this new snake thing turns out to be a positive for the grass/starter community D: Better than a flamin' pig


And because somethings appear creative, and others mindless. A tree on ones back would sap the life from you, as it needs nutrients to survive too. Unless Torterra and the Tree are one, which is even odder because that makes him half pokemon half tree.
 

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"Better than a pig I haven't seen yet"
How do you know it'll be on fire? Ya don't, in fact, its incredibly odd that its not already. Set back and enjoy the ride twinkle toes.*

*shoots myself over this line
 

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So because you don't know someone exist, or existed they didn't? Even more, the world only exist because humans have the ability to perceive and interpret it? Get this Rapidash grimer out of here.
 

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Originally posted by Dictionary.com
The sensation produced by stimulation of the organs of hearing by vibrations transmitted through the air or other medium.
Originally Posted by Online Merriam Webster Dictionary
1 a : a particular auditory impression : tone b : the sensation perceived by the sense of hearing c : mechanical radiant energy that is transmitted by longitudinal pressure waves in a material medium (as air) and is the objective cause of hearing
If you are to take the definition of sound to mean the acknowledgment by an individual of the vibrational and pressure-changing properties picked up by sensory organs through a medium such as air, then the most fitting reply to this most-repeated and highly objectionably inquiry is "by no means."
That is unless you account for the volition to uphold the alternate analogue pertaining to the vocabulary we are discussing, in which there may never be a satisfactory answer to this amaranthine plight.
 

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isn't it: If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

If this is the case, then it clearly would, the some of the energy in it hitting the ground would be transferred into sound waves, resulting in sound, whether an ear drum is there to percieve.

P.S. Excuse any unscientific language, i study law not science.

Edit: i see the point on perception... until its absorbed by a human ear, its nothing but energy, so sound is based on perception..

Edit two: so basically i disagree with myself, o well, you live and you learn.
 

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A tree on ones back would sap the life from you, as it needs nutrients to survive too. Unless Torterra and the Tree are one, which is even odder because that makes him half pokemon half tree.
Paras and parasect would suffer from the same problem, yet they're fine. Same with the bulbasaur line.

And there's never been any 'half tree' pokemon before?
 

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I'm predicting a grass/fly for the final evo of the grass type. I imagine something similar to Rayquaza, a light version of it. I hope im right, cause that would be soooo sweet.

Oh also, more eveeeloutionssssssssssssss please
 

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Way too much spam. Holy mackerel...

Initiating infraction mode.
Spire gained 2000 experience points!

Anyways, someone mention the Grass-type starter being potentially Grass / Flying. I'll admit, I'd be forced to use the Grass-type starter since Tropius is amazing.

And I could fry bacon everything I fight the rival.

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I'm also thinking the Water might become Water/Rock considering the seashell on its chest. Imagine if they gave it starts worthy of being a mixed sweeper, would be pretty frightening. But with that typing, don't get hit hahahaha.
 

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I'm also thinking the Water might become Water/Rock considering the seashell on its chest. Imagine if they gave it starts worthy of being a mixed sweeper, would be pretty frightening. But with that typing, don't get hit hahahaha.
Water / Rock would be terrible for a defensive typing.

But it would be unique. Well, to the starters anyway.



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I could see a pig being fire/ground, but what would a snake be? <.< I was hoping for /dark somewhere in there but it doesn't look so.
 

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No, the Pig has the typical outfit of a comical theif in Japan, its almost certainly going to be Dark.
The reason people think the snake could be grass/flying is because of the little stubs on his back, which could evolve into wings.

Yeah Terry, but they've never tried to make one a fast, mixed sweeper, or just a plain sweeper at all. It would be scary if pulled off well.
 

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Porky looks like it'll be Fire / Dark just by color.

Relicanth almost made it with Rock Head Head Smash, but relies on Swift Swim way too much.

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I'm not a master of typing, so I'll ask <.< is grass/flying bad?

._. I hope that pig evolves into a cool boar, then it'd be awesome.
 

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Grass / Flying

Weaknesses - Ice / Fire / Rock / Poison
Resists - Water / Grass
Immunities - Ground

(I probably missed some types, but I'm really lazy)

Only Tropius and Jumpluff to date are Grass / Flying.

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We don't really know yet. It all depends on the metagame and the tools given to those pokemon.

Fire should be a great type, but Gamefreak treats it like a ******* child, and the ever prescence of Stealth Rocks keeps most out of OU. Fire is CONSIDERED bad because Bulky Waters, Earthquake, and Stealth Rock keep them out of OU, but Heatran and Infernape have shown that with the right movepool and stats Fire can be powerful even with an enviroment its not suited for.

This is why I never liked "good typing" "bad typing" talk. Someone on Smogon tried to say that any pokemon who is grass will instantly be bad, and he got tore up by everyone on there for Shayman Sky Form, Celebi, Roserade, and Breloom. Its all about the metagame and gamefreak's decision to give the tools that pokemon needs.
 

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They've been up a little while now, but here are the sprites for the three new starters. Don't tell me that there is outline missing in places, I know, this is how they were presented on Serebii.



Edit: These guys too..

 
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