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PM Arts and Alts Thread

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Wiisnake

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so anyways, I'm thinking they could try to make Olimar's alt the Pikmin Olimar from the bad ending to the first Pikmin
 

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My kingdom for a Kenshiro skin over Captain Falcon. Complete with "a-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta!"
 

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Are you saying that Magenta is the only canon color that Hero_42 forgot to mention, or the only color remaining from the vanilla selection in Brawl? 'Cause Hero's list is most certainly canon...
It's the only canon color that was omitted from that list. So the former.
 

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I know its a small technicality, but I would be against using OoT Link as an alternate costume since he is a completely different person form TP Link. The same goes for zelda. Gannon, on the other hand, is the exact same character in both games, and a revamped version of his OoT appearance would be perfect for an alternate costume.

I saw a lot of people suggesting that Marth's costume be his awakening appearance. While I am a fan of his look in awakening, there isn't many major differences between the two if you look closely. Its really mostly art style that makes them look different, as seen bellow.

I feel like a better choice would be this outfit from his appearance in Fire Emblem 12, which is much more unique in my opinion.
 

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Gonna disagree strongly there, Dante. That FE12 one looks just like the Brawl one with a longer tunic, cape, and more loose slacks.



Meanwhile, Awakening Marth looks like a completely different outfit no matter where you look at it from. Since I've used it in P:M too and have had matches with both outfits on screen at the same time, I think that even more strongly.

I think most people would still say Awakening is the best choice.
 

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Hmm... looking at these four images side by side, I'm going to have to agree that the Awakening versions is indeed the best choice in my opinion. Although, I feel that Marth's pauldrons should be silver in that render to match the artwork better, and to break up the constant blue of his outfit... not that it matters because that specific model isn't going to be used, but...
 

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I know its a small technicality, but I would be against using OoT Link as an alternate costume since he is a completely different person form TP Link. The same goes for zelda. Gannon, on the other hand, is the exact same character in both games, and a revamped version of his OoT appearance would be perfect for an alternate costume.
Isn't Zelda from OoT because she turns into Shiek?
 

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I'm still not sure if Awakening Marth is on the cards, but can't we just get both and call it a day. Awakening Marth is my favorite design of the two, but bishounen Marth(Not sure if I spelled that correctly) encompasses a great deal of his history. And honestly, how can anyone NOT like that more aged concept design? It really makes Marth look like the bold Lord he is. I'm really at a crossroads on this, I just think both designs are pretty damn great. I really can't pick a favorite here. :/
 

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I'm still not sure if Awakening Marth is on the cards, but can't we just get both and call it a day. Awakening Marth is my favorite design of the two, but bishounen Marth(Not sure if I spelled that correctly) encompasses a great deal of his history. And honestly, how can anyone NOT like that more aged concept design? It really makes Marth look like the bold Lord he is. I'm really at a crossroads on this, I just think both designs are pretty damn great. I really can't pick a favorite here. :/
Edit: I like Bishounen Marth better, that is all.
Edit to the edit: Goddamn double post.
 

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As far as Marth goes, I'd prefer the PMBR to focus on that FE12 design since there are already good Awakening Marth's. With this, I could have FE12 Marth AND Awakening Marth. The best of both worlds.
 

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As far as Marth goes, I'd prefer the PMBR to focus on that FE12 design since there are already good Awakening Marth's. With this, I could have FE12 Marth AND Awakening Marth. The best of both worlds.
New kid that is unfamilar with Fire Emblem says: "THAT'S NOT AWAKENING MARTH I WANT THE REAL AWAKENING MARTH WITH THE EPIC MASK!!!!! insert three ones"
 

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As far as Marth goes, I'd prefer the PMBR to focus on that FE12 design since there are already good Awakening Marth's. With this, I could have FE12 Marth AND Awakening Marth. The best of both worlds.

Oooo, good point. Yeah, I bet they'd do an incredible job with FE12 Marth.
 

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FE12 Marth is something that hasen't been acknowledged by the Smash fandom in terms of mods.
Personally I think that would be a nice changed of pace compared to the over saturated FE13 alt.

/hipster
 

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Everyone needs to remember that we can still use custom textures and models like we always have. If they don't add an alt you want you can always add it over you least favorite color. That's what I'm going to do anyways.
 

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While I'm fine with the FE 12 costume choice for Marth, won't the P:M have to reanimate every perform-able action for the implementation of the new cape and added, long, robe? Surely that'll be a major pain and take time away from developing new characters? Not to hate on Marth or anything, I just think we should be considerate of how much work our costume proposals might be in reality.
 

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I know its a small technicality, but I would be against using OoT Link as an alternate costume since he is a completely different person form TP Link.

Man, Link is still Link, and as long as he's recognizable, then it's fine. Same with Zelda. And it would be weird if Ganondorf got an OoT alt when Zelda and Link don't.

Also OoT Link has a cooler voice.


EDIT: as for Marth, I think both alts look really good. I like the long robe on FE12 Marth, but then again, his outfit is pretty much the same as regular Marth, just with longer clothes/armor. Still looks cooler, though. I'd rather have his Awakening alt, though, but either one is fine by me.
 

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What about an additional model/palette for Fox that makes him look like Marcus McCloud (his potential son) from Star Fox Command?

 

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It really wouldn't be weird for Ganondorf to have an OoT costume since he's the same Ganondorf as OoT
 

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It would be if Zelda and Link didn't get an OoT alt. It wouldn't really fit, if that makes any sense.

It would make more sense if all three got OoT alts than just one of them getting an OoT alt.
 

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That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Luigi and Peach can get paper mario alts, but mario doesn't at all, he gets dr mario. Nobody thinks that's weird, because it's not. Not even a little bit.

So why couldn't characters from the zelda series get alts from totally different games? You're putting extremely arbitrary restrictions on it for no reason.
 

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That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Luigi and Peach can get paper mario alts, but mario doesn't at all, he gets dr mario. Nobody thinks that's weird, because it's not. Not even a little bit.

So why couldn't characters from the zelda series get alts from totally different games? You're putting extremely arbitrary restrictions on it for no reason.
Because there are a million Mario games, but the ones in Brawl aren't from any particular one.

The Zelda characters in Brawl are from Twilight Princess (except Toon Link, who's from Wind Waker). Changing one character to represent a different game and not the others looks and feels weird. It's the same reason we didn't get, say, TP Link, WW Zelda, and OoT Ganon in Brawl in the first place.

Besides, Mario from Paper Mario is just Mario. He doesn't have any alts from that game.

Consider this. In Smash 4, most everything we're getting about Metroid so far is from Other M. Say there's no representation of Prime in Smash 4, only Other M. Now, say Ridley gets in the game. It's going to look bizarre if he's from Prime, and the only thing about Metroid from Prime.
 

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Sheik wasn't in TP, though - she's still kinda representing OoT.

And even if Sheik was in TP, I don't think there's a need to adhere to that rule. Alt costumes are a fun bonus, so I don't think they need to all match up perfectly with their respective franchises.

It's all good either way, though. Having them all look like they were from OoT would be pretty awesome. :D
 

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Sheik wasn't in TP, though - she's still kinda representing OoT.

And even if Sheik was in TP, I don't think there's a need to adhere to that rule. Alt costumes are a fun bonus, so I don't think they need to all match up perfectly with their respective franchises.

It's all good either way, though. Having them all look like they were from OoT would be pretty awesome. :D
But she's in TP style, not OoT style. And if Zelda were TP-styled and Sheik were OoT-styled, it'd look weird; similarly, if Link and Zelda were from TP and Ganon was still from OoT, it'd be odd. Hence my reasoning for alts matching as well, at least for Zelda.
 

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Meh. I could see an argument for Zelda and Sheik having matching styles, but Link and Ganondorf have no reason to match them at all. It would, in fact, not look weird at all.
 

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I don't think that's correct at all. When you say "most of us feel differently", all you actually mean it "I feel differently". You don't speak for the majority of smash/PM fandom.
 

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But she's in TP style, not OoT style. And if Zelda were TP-styled and Sheik were OoT-styled, it'd look weird; similarly, if Link and Zelda were from TP and Ganon was still from OoT, it'd be odd. Hence my reasoning for alts matching as well, at least for Zelda.

I think you'd bump into that oddity regardless. If all the alts are OoT alts, then when TP Link squares off against OoT Ganondorf, there's that same clash, of sorts. The question then becomes whether or not the art team can maintain a well-defined style throughout the costumes. The Roy and Dr. M renders are seriously impressive, not just because they're well made, but also because those characters perfectly gel with Brawl's existing art style.

So I'd bet that even if the Zelda franchise has alts from different games, timelines, or whatever, it'll all look really solid and legit.
 

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I don't think that's correct at all. When you say "most of us feel differently", all you actually mean it "I feel differently". You don't speak for the majority of smash/PM fandom.
Yes. Please tell me what I meant, as I have no idea what it was myself, being the one who said it. I've observed that most of the people I've talked to, both in this thread and out of it, feel the same way I do about this scenario. Again, thank you for your pedantism and baseless assumptions.

I think you'd bump into that oddity regardless. If all the alts are OoT alts, then when TP Link squares off against OoT Ganondorf, there's that same clash, of sorts. The question then becomes whether or not the art team can maintain a well-defined style throughout the costumes. The Roy and Dr. M renders are seriously impressive, not just because they're well made, but also because those characters perfectly gel with Brawl's existing art style.

So I'd bet that even if the Zelda franchise has alts from different games, timelines, or whatever, it'll all look really solid and legit.
You have a point there, but I'd still rather have the alts be from the same game when possible. That goes for every series, not just Zelda; I wouldn't want Awakening alts for Marth and Roy but a Radiant Dawn alt for Ike. The Mario series ones are an exception because Mario has no viable Paper Mario alts (plus the Doc makes sense), Peach and Luigi don't have alts in the same game, and Bowser doesn't have any from Paper Mario either, so something like Dry Bowser would be acceptable.

You're correct either way though; whatever they pick will look great.
 

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Yes. Please tell me what I meant, as I have no idea what it was myself, being the one who said it. I've observed that most of the people I've talked to, both in this thread and out of it, feel the same way I do about this scenario. Again, thank you for your pedantism and baseless assumptions.
That's weird, because I've seen more people in this thread disagree with you, than agree with you. Shame on me for observing, rather than taking your word for it.
 

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That's weird, because I've seen more people in this thread disagree with you, than agree with you. Shame on me for observing, rather than taking your word for it.
People may disagree that they should be from OoT, but I've seen far fewer people agree that it would look perfectly natural to have the alts be from different games. So I dunno what you're talking about.
 

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"Most of us feel differently though."

except for nearly everyone else having a discussion with you, but THEY'RE WEIRDOS ANYWAY

for the love of god what is it with this forum's obsession with objective "reason" when talking about subjective concepts like taste in design, anyway. that's not how that has EVER, EVER WORKED, you cannot put a binary yes or no answer on something subject to varying opinions cut that out
 

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Guys, guys. Hear me out.
What if the Project M Backroom makes a texture for Link based on what they think would be best for Link and if one doesn't like it, then one can insert a different texture?
Outrageous I know, but it Might. Just. Work.
 

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"Most of us feel differently though."

except for nearly everyone else having a discussion with you, but THEY'RE WEIRDOS ANYWAY

for the love of god what is it with this forum's obsession with objective "reason" when talking about subjective concepts like taste in design, anyway. that's not how that has EVER, EVER WORKED, you cannot put a binary yes or no answer on something subject to varying opinions cut that out
Yes, all two people debating with me currently. When most people I've talked to about this subject agree with me. There's a reason I said most.

Guys, guys. Hear me out.
What if the Project M Backroom makes a texture for Link based on what they think would be best for Link and if one doesn't like it, then one can insert a different texture?
Outrageous I know, but it Might. Just. Work.
I support this idea. Now why don't we all shut up about Link (myself included) and talk about something else?
 

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Now now, let's stay civil here. Who's not to say the Backroom has already decided on all the costumes?
 
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