PM Arts and Alts Thread

[Wiisnake]

it's pretty easy to add mulitple alt colors, I just want a Yoshi with Sunglasses okay!?

 

[AnOkayDM]

I think they wanted a different image for a different Link. The lady who did Young Link did him in OoT, MM, Melee, Four Swords, Minish Cap, and ALttP on GBA, but the lady who voiced Link from WW also voiced the Links in Four Swords Adventures, and Phantom Hourglass. You're right about TP and SS, though I coulda sworn they had the same voice.

I wonder what they'll go with for Smash 4. Or am I being dumb and we've heard him?

it's pretty easy to add mulitple alt colors, I just want a Yoshi with Sunglasses okay!?

But Boshi's not Yoshi.

 

[XalchemistX]

Whats the difference between alt costume and textures? They look like the same thing

 

[red9rd]

I'm pretty sure the rule that applies for link applies for Yoshi, since Yoshi is a race.

 

[Xenozoa425]

The ACL basically gives you more slots for textures.

 

[AnOkayDM]

I'm pretty sure the rule that applies for link applies for Yoshi, since Yoshi is a race.

I wouldn't count on that. The Yoshi that appears in Smash Bros. is a specific Yoshi. Just like the Kirby that appears in Smash Bros. is a specific Kirby, even though there are lots of Kirbies in the world. Also like all the playable Pokémon. Boshi is a different character, a different specific Yoshi. He's basically Yoshi's Wario.

 

[Wiisnake]

I wouldn't count on that. The Yoshi that appears in Smash Bros. is a specific Yoshi. Just like the Kirby that appears in Smash Bros. is a specific Kirby, even though there are lots of Kirbies in the world. Also like all the playable Pokémon. Boshi is a different character, a different specific Yoshi. He's basically Yoshi's Wario.

That's why I am asking people, the race factor can be argued due to the alt colors, and you have to admit, Boshi is one of the only model changing alts you can think of for Yoshi.

 

[red9rd]

I wouldn't count on that. The Yoshi that appears in Smash Bros. is a specific Yoshi. Just like the Kirby that appears in Smash Bros. is a specific Kirby, even though there are lots of Kirbies in the world. Also like all the playable Pokémon. Boshi is a different character, a different specific Yoshi. He's basically Yoshi's Wario.

I'm thinking the rule also applies to the Pokemon and the Kirby that appeaers in the games is the same Kirby.

 

[AnOkayDM]

That's why I am asking people, the race factor can be argued due to the alt colors, and you have to admit, Boshi is one of the only model changing alts you can think of for Yoshi.

So are you saying there's a race of Sonics to explain the ability to have four Sonics in one place? Sonic's skin color changes from costume to costume, so either there must be more than one of him, or it's just a damn video game with alternate textures. Boshi is a separate entity from Yoshi. I would much prefer getting a bunch of new, canon colors for Yoshi than a creature that's not actually him. Not everyone needs an alt, and we shouldn't stretch to include one.

I'm thinking the rule also applies to the Pokemon and the Kirby that appeaers in the games is the same Kirby.

Why do you think that? Does it also apply to R.O.B.? How about Game and Watch?

In Smash Bros., when there're multiple of a certain character type (Yoshi, Pokémon, etc.), that doesn't mean the character chosen can just be swapped out for another. The character represents his or her race, and the alternate colors are because it's a video game.

 

[Kix]

nevermind.

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

And I think OoT would work just fine. But it seems we get each other at this point, so truce?

Yeah, whatever they choose to do, I'm sure it'll turn out nicely.

But Boshi's not Yoshi.

Technically no, but he is "A" Yoshi.

 

[Wiisnake]

So are you saying there's a race of Sonics to explain the ability to have four Sonics in one place? Sonic's skin color changes from costume to costume, so either there must be more than one of him, or it's just a damn video game with alternate textures. Boshi is a separate entity from Yoshi. I would much prefer getting a bunch of new, canon colors for Yoshi than a creature that's not actually him. Not everyone needs an alt, and we shouldn't stretch to include one.



Why do you think that? Does it also apply to R.O.B.? How about Game and Watch?

In Smash Bros., when there're multiple of a certain character type (Yoshi, Pokémon, etc.), that doesn't mean the character chosen can just be swapped out for another. The character represents his or her race, and the alternate colors are because it's a video game.

dude... couldn't we just get both? Yoshi could get a ton of colors and a slot for a Boshi alt.

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

dude... couldn't we just get both? Yoshi could get a ton of colors and a slot for a Boshi alt.

Technically if they just add a bunch of slots for Yoshi recolors, someone could add their own Boshi to their own pack. I like the idea of having a Boshi, but it's not really necessary for it to be a completely new alternate costume grouping.

 

[Wiisnake]

Technically if they just add a bunch of slots for Yoshi recolors, someone could add their own Boshi to their own pack. I like the idea of having a Boshi, but it's not really necessary for it to be a completely new alternate costume grouping.

I know, it'd just be freaking cool. and honestly it's one of the only compromises I can think of.

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

I know, it'd just be freaking cool. and honestly it's one of the only compromises I can think of.

I was going to put Boshi into my pack when Yoshi finally got released regardless. Just gotta find a good looking one, which I know exists. I think Yoshi would do well to have a Black, White, Purple, Brown, and Grey color. I forget if Grey was an official color in Yoshi's Island, but I know Brown was and I'm fairly sure he doesn't have that color in Smash yet.

 

[Wiisnake]

I was going to put Boshi into my pack when Yoshi finally got released regardless. Just gotta find a good looking one, which I know exists. I think Yoshi would do well to have a Black, White, Purple, Brown, and Grey color. I forget if Grey was an official color in Yoshi's Island, but I know Brown was and I'm fairly sure he doesn't have that color in Smash yet.

who knows, Yoshi's have tons of colors.

 

[AnOkayDM]

dude... couldn't we just get both? Yoshi could get a ton of colors and a slot for a Boshi alt.

Well, we'll see what they do, but you're holding your breath for something that's not likely, according to the information we have. Even if they don't put him in though, can't you just add your own? I'd prefer multiple colors to creature that's not him.

I was going to put Boshi into my pack when Yoshi finally got released regardless. Just gotta find a good looking one, which I know exists. I think Yoshi would do well to have a Black, White, Purple, Brown, and Grey color. I forget if Grey was an official color in Yoshi's Island, but I know Brown was and I'm fairly sure he doesn't have that color in Smash yet.

You forgot orange! I think that's an official one too. I don't think grey is though...

In Smash he has green, red, blue, yellow, pink, and light blue, right? So they could add purple, orange, brown, white, and black, and maybe one other.

 

[Trinsic]

That's why I am asking people, the race factor can be argued due to the alt colors, and you have to admit, Boshi is one of the only model changing alts you can think of for Yoshi.

That's the main thing I don't like about Boshi as an alt though, the feeling that he's just being slapped on as an alt because of this idea that everyone should have an alt and for Yoshi he's the only thing that works. I mean, Boshi doesn't exactly have a lot of fans, the only reason he's being suggested is because he CAN work, but that doesn't mean he should actually be put in the game.

I mean, this is an extremely minor character from a game that's a decade and a half old. He wasn't even a main character, he was a NPC you talk to maybe three times during an optional side-quest in an optional area that's easy to miss. I'm all for representing obscurity but this character is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I think Yoshi would do well to have a Black, White, Purple, Brown, and Grey color. I forget if Grey was an official color in Yoshi's Island, but I know Brown was and I'm fairly sure he doesn't have that color in Smash yet.

There has never been a gray Yoshi. Brown was in the original SNES game but in the remakes and sequel he was replaced by an orange one. There are enough slots for both Orange and Brown though, as well as the others you mentioned, and I'd be happy to have them both in.

On another note, one thing I would love to see is the alternate colored Yoshis having appropriately colored eggs.

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

You forgot orange! I think that's an official one too. I don't think grey is though...

In Smash he has green, red, blue, yellow, pink, and light blue, right? So they could add purple, orange, brown, white, and black, and maybe one other.

Sounds good to me.

 

[AnOkayDM]

That's the main thing I don't like about Boshi as an alt though, the feeling that he's just being slapped on as an alt because of this idea that everyone should have an alt and for Yoshi he's the only thing that works. I mean, Boshi doesn't exactly have a lot of fans, the only reason he's being suggested is because he CAN work, but that doesn't mean he should actually be put in the game.

I mean, this is an extremely minor character from a game that's a decade and a half old. He wasn't even a main character, he was a NPC you talk to maybe three times during an optional side-quest in an optional area that's easy to miss. I'm all for representing obscurity but this character is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.



There has never been a gray Yoshi. Brown was in the original SNES game but in the remakes and sequel he was replaced by an orange one. There are enough slots for both Orange and Brown though, as well as the others you mentioned, and I'd be happy to have them both in.

On another note, one thing I would love to see is the alternate colored Yoshis having appropriately colored eggs.

I wish I could like your post twice, once for each half of it.

 

[yogurtgun1245]

In Smash he has green, red, blue, yellow, pink, and light blue, right? So they could add purple, orange, brown, white, and black, and maybe one other.

I think the only remaining canon Yoshi color is the magenta colored Yoshi. Maybe they could also move the slots around for additonal team colors, Green and yellow for green team, Red and pink for red team, and cyan and blue for blue team. Green and yellow might be a bit of a stretch, but yellow does at least have green shoes.

 

[Friesnchip]

I think the only remaining canon Yoshi color is the magenta colored Yoshi. Maybe they could also move the slots around for additonal team colors, Green and yellow for green team, Red and pink for red team, and cyan and blue for blue team. Green and yellow might be a bit of a stretch, but yellow does at least have green shoes.

Are you saying that Magenta is the only canon color that Hero_42 forgot to mention, or the only color remaining from the vanilla selection in Brawl? 'Cause Hero's list is most certainly canon...

 

[AnOkayDM]

I think the only remaining canon Yoshi color is the magenta colored Yoshi. Maybe they could also move the slots around for additonal team colors, Green and yellow for green team, Red and pink for red team, and cyan and blue for blue team. Green and yellow might be a bit of a stretch, but yellow does at least have green shoes.

Alternatively, red and pink for red, blue and purple for blue, and green and cyan for green? Eh, yellow would probably work better. That's a good idea though.

 

[Wiisnake]

That's the main thing I don't like about Boshi as an alt though, the feeling that he's just being slapped on as an alt because of this idea that everyone should have an alt and for Yoshi he's the only thing that works. I mean, Boshi doesn't exactly have a lot of fans, the only reason he's being suggested is because he CAN work, but that doesn't mean he should actually be put in the game.

I mean, this is an extremely minor character from a game that's a decade and a half old. He wasn't even a main character, he was a NPC you talk to maybe three times during an optional side-quest in an optional area that's easy to miss. I'm all for representing obscurity but this character is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.



There has never been a gray Yoshi. Brown was in the original SNES game but in the remakes and sequel he was replaced by an orange one. There are enough slots for both Orange and Brown though, as well as the others you mentioned, and I'd be happy to have them both in.

On another note, one thing I would love to see is the alternate colored Yoshis having appropriately colored eggs.

I can understand, just think it'd be cool to have a Yoshi with sunglasses

 

[AnOkayDM]

I can understand, just think it'd be cool to have a Yoshi with sunglasses

And I think it'd be cool to have a set of Galacta Knight skins for Meta Knight, but he's a different person. =(

 

[MLGF]

Yoshi should get 10 colors by default.
Bring in Black, White, Orange, and Purple Yoshi to crank it up to 10. After that, give him a Project M theme color alt and a GB themed alt. Y'know, a grey alt like DDD.

 

[Wiisnake]

And I think it'd be cool to have a set of Galacta Knight skins for Meta Knight, but he's a different person. =(

well at least they mentioned that The Masked Man might be done, I'm literally happy as long as Pajama Ness is used

 

[AnOkayDM]

well at least they mentioned that The Masked Man might be done, I'm literally happy as long as Pajama Ness is used

Not exactly. They said Lucas in a Masked Man outfit.

Which is silly because Lucas and Claus are twins but whatever.

 

[Wiisnake]

Not exactly. They said Lucas in a Masked Man outfit.

Which is silly because Lucas and Claus are twins but whatever.

Actually... Lucas did wear the masked man out fit in the game...

 

[AnOkayDM]

Actually... Lucas did wear the masked man out fit in the game...

Oh, did he? I haven't played Mother 3, I just know some stuff about it.

 

[Wiisnake]

Oh, did he? I haven't played Mother 3, I just know some stuff about it.

it lacked the helmet but yeah, want a link to the sprite? Personally I'd rather him have the helmet too, but if this is the only way for something like the Masked man I'll take it

 

[AnOkayDM]

it lacked the helmet but yeah, want a link to the sprite? Personally I'd rather him have the helmet too, but if this is the only way for something like the Masked man I'll take it

Wait, that's kinda like saying "Link dressed up like the Skull Kid once. He didn't wear the mask though."

 

[Wiisnake]

Wait, that's kinda like saying "Link dressed up like the Skull Kid once. He didn't wear the mask though."

except that never happened.

 

[AnOkayDM]

except that never happened.

You get my point though. -_- The helmet is what makes the costume.

 

[Wiisnake]

You get my point though. -_- The helmet is what makes the costume.

I know, maybe they'll let it slide, I hope they do, because it's not the same without the Helmet, you agree?

 

[AnOkayDM]

I know, maybe they'll let it slide, I hope they do, because it's not the same without the Helmet, you agree?

I wouldn't recognize him without the helmet, so yeah, I'm gonna have to agree.

 

[trash?]

lotta useless talk about semantics ITT

they didn't mention character-specific for some weird arbitrary barrier, they want something that's visually pleasing. overlaying marth with a not-marth character isn't visually pleasing, BUT something which references a not-marth character, while still being marth is.

galacta knight can work, boshi can work, masked man can work. actually like 90% of these ideas can work, but the question should be what works best

 

[Wiisnake]

I wouldn't recognize him without the helmet, so yeah, I'm gonna have to agree.

I mean my only other suggestion is Pigmask Uniform Lucas.

 

[AnOkayDM]

lotta useless talk about semantics ITT

they didn't mention character-specific for some weird arbitrary barrier, they want something that's visually pleasing. overlaying marth with a not-marth character isn't visually pleasing, BUT something which references a not-marth character, while still being marth is.

galacta knight can work, boshi can work, masked man can work. actually like 90% of these ideas can work, but the question should be what works best

How do you know that? 'cause I'm just going off what they said, which was that it had to be the same character.

If you've got proof, please enlighten me.

 

[Chzrm3]

Yoshi should get 10 colors by default.
Bring in Black, White, Orange, and Purple Yoshi to crank it up to 10. After that, give him a Project M theme color alt and a GB themed alt. Y'know, a grey alt like DDD.

This would be sick! Black and white Yoshi were pretty awesome, and I'd totally play as Orange. I wouldn't mind a brown one either, he had some really fun levels in that SNES game.