Pikachu: A discussion

[festizzio]

There is no ninja headband Pikachu, unless we're speaking of that game that shouldn't be spoken of on these boards.

We don't take kindly to Brawl sympathizers here.

Whatever. If you want to hate Brawl then that's fine. Just don't bring it here. We all love Pikachu, no matter what game he's in.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

I'd love him more if he didn't get OHKO'd by Earthquake...

=P

 

[PsychopathicEmus]

well said, festizzio XD. here's to pikachu!

 

[Anther]

*got way too drunk and stammers around embarrassingly*

 

[AXE 09]

I don't ever remember them being very active... heck, even the Brawl Pika boards are pretty dead. I guess nobody wants to play as him anymore.

get outta here! pikachu's still number 1 in my book!

...ok well actually to be honest... i still play pikachu in brawl, but he's not my main =( but he's still my main in melee lol. pika rox

 

[Zig-Zag!]

I went to darkrains tourny in KC and got 5th in teams :/

I didnt enter singles, I had to get to a concert!

 

[festizzio]

I went to darkrains tourny in KC and got 5th in teams :/

I didnt enter singles, I had to get to a concert!

Brawl Pikachu is reeeeaaaally good in teams with someone that has a lot of strong moves.

 

[GeekY]

pikachu's improved much better in brawl.

 

[PsychopathicEmus]

ah! the old pika people have spoken up once again! =D

 

[N64]

meleeeeeeee

 

[Kiwikomix]

I actually don't think Pikachu is improved at all in Brawl when you look at it from a Melee player's standpoint. I mean, you have to learn how to play as him again, and in the end he isn't the same character. There's none of the things that made him so impressive in his own way back in Melee (it still bugs me that we lost uair semispike). Even quick attack tricks aren't that great anymore since the ledge is pretty much automatically sweetspotted. With Brawl, you lose the satisfaction of things like destroying a Marth or Fox with a low tier character.

 

[festizzio]

I actually don't think Pikachu is improved at all in Brawl when you look at it from a Melee player's standpoint. I mean, you have to learn how to play as him again, and in the end he isn't the same character. There's none of the things that made him so impressive in his own way back in Melee (it still bugs me that we lost uair semispike). Even quick attack tricks aren't that great anymore since the ledge is pretty much automatically sweetspotted. With Brawl, you lose the satisfaction of things like destroying a Marth or Fox with a low tier character.

Are you kidding? He's insanely better. You don't have to worry about "destroying" a marth or a fox with a low tier because you're destroying them with a high tier.

 

[PsychopathicEmus]

yeah, festizzio's right. pikachu is definately improved as a character: more power, more priority, relatively faster?, more range, etc. it'd be hard to argue that pika hasn't been buffed, even with the loss of his uair semi spike. and even if he still had it, everybody's **** floatiness and better recovery and the new edge sweetspot physics will help them get back on anyway. but i still have to agree, he's not the same character. =p

 

[Kiwikomix]

I don't mean to say that he wasn't buffed in Brawl because he clearly was. The point is that he really isn't as fun to play as because, now that he's high tier material, everyone knows exactly what he has to offer. You can surprise people with what he can do a lot better when he's off the radar in low tier.

 

[festizzio]

I don't mean to say that he wasn't buffed in Brawl because he clearly was. The point is that he really isn't as fun to play as because, now that he's high tier material, everyone knows exactly what he has to offer. You can surprise people with what he can do a lot better when he's off the radar in low tier.

While I disagree with you on the reasons, I definitely agree that he's not as fun to play. Although I don't think it's Pikachu, it's just Brawl.

 

[PsychopathicEmus]

As far as melee pika goes, which would you most want most as an improvement?

-More priority
-Better grab range
-More combo ability
-Faster
-More hats/head stuff

 

[-Chad-]

Nothing, I just wish some other characters were less good hahah.

 

[PsychopathicEmus]

haha true...every character is overpowered except pika and mewtwo =p

 

[Kiwikomix]

Two questions for any of you that are still active:

What is the use of Pikachu's wavedash? I know it's an alternative to dashdancing and you can wavedash onto the edge and all that good stuff, but I haven't really seen any Pikachu-specific techs used.

When should fair be used? To me it just seems like a useless move. It does poor damage, must be l-canceled, has no knockback, and it can be DI-ed out of.

 

[-Chad-]

I just wavedash to space pretty much...standard stuff.

I use f-air against some characters like Peach and Marth sometimes.. =x just so I can have a little bit of extra reach even though I don't like approaching those characters.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

I use fair to transition into jabs or dsmash or a grab or something. If I expect an aerial approach to be shielded, though, I opt for the nair instead.

 

[N64]

I wish pika's fair had a slightly longer hitbox in front of him, fsmash lasted more than 3 frames (even like 5 would be fine), and the last hitbox of uair sent them sliiiiightly higher.

That's about it. maybe a couple frames less lag on fair, just so it could lead more reliably into grabs->usmash.
yay melee pika.

 

[-Chad-]

omgosh pika is amazing

 

[festizzio]

Are any of you going to Florida in july? Cause I'm going and it would be awesome to meet some other Pikachu players; it gets lonely in Cali. T_T

 

[-Chad-]

As much as I'd love to, it's really unlikely : (

Something about having only 3 dollars total prevents me from going hahah.

 

[N64]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4301608368839347780&hl=en

*vid plug*

 

[Sans Glutin]

Is anybody still here? I need some conversation while we're waiting for people to realize that Brawl sucks.

 

[Fogo]

Haha i'm here!


let's talk!

 

[PsychopathicEmus]

the video was pretty awesome. i recognize a few of those clips from the electric shuffle =p

-edit
yeah, let's talk. uhm...so who here feels really bad at the game when they're beaten by their younger sister who doesn't used any advanced techs at all? not that she button-mashes or anything, she's just got good spacing...and i mean GOOD spacing. and she knows me really well, won't let me play on the edge anymore...which i shouldn't be doing against a marth in the first place but meh...

 

[Fogo]

That sucks, i'm actually really good at brawl lol

 

[Sans Glutin]

I'm better at Brawl than I am Melee in relative terms but Melee is actually fun, lol.

 

[Fogo]

Idk which i'm better at. well, actutally i'd say brawl, but i still place top 4 in melee too.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Melee is fun, Brawl is funny. Fun lasts, funny isn't funny very long.

@PsychpathicEmus

How old is your sister? And I'll ask the obligatory "Is she hot?"

 

[Sans Glutin]

I don't get how Brawl is funny. Just boring after an hour, lol.

 

[Fogo]

i bet she isn't hot if she's playing brawl with her brother. but there's always a chance.

 

[otg]

I don't get how Brawl is funny. Just boring after an hour, lol.

I don't know anything about Pika, except that his n64 grimeyness still works a lil. I just felt compelled to say your sig is fantastic.

Instant win.

 

[Sans Glutin]

It most definitely is, lol.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Spamming projectiles and watching your opponent get frustrated is always funny. Also it makes them give up on Brawl faster so we can switch back to Melee.

 

[Fogo]

lmao you really hate brawl don't you??


and that sig is **** lol

 

[Sans Glutin]

Brawl is bad and I think that most of the good competitive players in Brawl right now will end up playing Melee again eventually.