Pika Q&A/FAQ Thread: Ask a Quick Question, Get a Quick Answer!

[gamesuxcard]

good techs to practice as pika (and yes, just practice them, ****)

qac
qa edge canceling
up smash oos (jump cancel it)
dash turn around jump cancel upsmash
uair footstool
platform canceling

and playing diddy does help imo, since he does so much stuff all the time, timing b reversed canceled peanuts to change momentum direction is cool practice, it makes b reversing second nature.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

how does pika do vs ROB?

also how is pika vs MK on RC? xD

Pika vs ROB is probably like 55:45 Rob

Pika vs MK on RC is 60:40 MK's favor. We have silly things, but he has MK things.

 

[toobusytocare]

ah, thank you

 

[clowsui]

Askin' here to be safe:

1. Could somebody describe to me exactly how the pikachu CG on falco works? To be more specific is there a way to get the CG to end before ~100?

2. How good is pika in doubles? what kind of characters are best teamed w/ him?

 

[KayLo!]

I lasted ~7 minutes in Training Mode today, lol. I think we might be getting somewhere.

@clow: Pika's best partner is Snake imo. He needs someone who can kill..... setups for thunder KOs are nice too.

Overall, Pika is a good dubs character for support and camping..... and in that kind of role, he can stock tank pretty **** well. He doesn't work nearly as well as the aggressor tho.

 

[Pikabunz]

Askin' here to be safe:

1. Could somebody describe to me exactly how the pikachu CG on falco works? To be more specific is there a way to get the CG to end before ~100?

You can try not letting Pika grab you so early. The chain grab will end earlier if it starts at 40+.

 

[Hater]

Hey guys im just starting Pika been a long time Rob main, just wondering if i could grab some advice on diddy and pika as a doubles team

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Overall, Pika is a good dubs character for support and camping..... and in that kind of role, he can stock tank pretty **** well. He doesn't work nearly as well as the aggressor tho.

I am offended Snake is actually the better camper/punisher, so I think Pikachu should actually be the aggressor.

 

[bigman40]

I think pika works at all areas (I've done it before where I was all over the stage fighting everyone while my partner just tried to keep stage control). You just gotta have the awareness to leave your enemy when you need to help your partner.

 

[KayLo!]

Snake can do whatever the **** he wants, lol. But yeah, I agree that with Snake, Pika can be the more aggro teammate since Snake covers him so well.

But in most teams, I think Pika plays better being more campy/don't get hit/keep stocks/edgeguard, etc..... basically be annoying as hell and don't take any hits since we have superior mobility.

At least that's how I usually do it, but Pika's my dubs secondary. Zelda ftw in dubs.

 

[Ussi]

Kayloo D: we did pika/Zelda team in tourney before... pika can be the aggressor tooo :D...

Pika needs a partner who can deal with swords/disjoints

 

[KayLo!]

Yeah, and how well did that work out? Lol!

Plus that was over a year ago. Metagame's changed since then.

 

[Ussi]

it did better than Ike/Zelda xD

yea I know, probably making pikachu even a better teammate

 

[KayLo!]

Nah, Ike/Zelda actually works pretty well -- at least whenever TUSM and I do it.

Like I said, that was well over a year ago...... I wouldn't base anything on the way things were back then. Pika doesn't utterly fail as the aggressor as much as many characters do, but I think he works better in the support role.

Again, just my opinion. Obviously people think otherwise! Doubles is more diverse than singles anyway in terms of strategy, so a lot depends on the teams involved.

 

[Zodiark]

I use many Nair to punish bad approches from my opponents , it's that a good thing ? I find that I spam it u.u .

 

[KayLo!]

I'm guessing you mean nair OOS? It's effective..... a lot of Pikas spam it, myself included, lol.

But uair works better in a lot of situations (more range, can set up for longer strings of hits), and you have to be careful about staling nair...... it's one of Pikas much needed KO moves, but it has to be pretty fresh to kill.

If you find you're spamming nairs, try mixing in uairs, dairs, grabs, and other stuff when appropriate. It'll keep you less predictable, plus nair tends to whiff a lot once the opponent learns better spacing.

 

[Zodiark]

Okay thanks i'll remember it . I also want to ask if Dthrow chaingrab to the edge then Fsmash is escapable or not ?

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

*Guaranteed*
F-tilt (Angled up)
Reverse Up-tilt
Nair

*Not sure*
Uair
U-smash

*Can't*
Everything else (Including F-smash)

 

[Leaf.]

*Can't*
Everything else (Including F-smash)

Unless, of course, you are fighting an idiot. Because it's worked for me before. XD

 

[Pikabunz]

Usmash is guaranteed sometimes. Depends on the percent and the character.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Unless, of course, you are fighting an idiot. Because it's worked for me before. XD

Because you know, GUARANTEED means it sometimes works because your opponent is ********.

 

[KayLo!]

I do bthrow > bair all the time. I think it's guaranteed. =P

 

[Stealth Raptor]

i do uthrow to thunder, omg works every time, its gauranteed right?

 

[KayLo!]

See, I was being semi-serious tho lol. I really do do bthrow > bair a lot...... favorite gimp combo.

Although recently I've started loving dash attack tech chases more. Or dash attack at the edge > read DJ + airdodge/aerial back onto the stage > fsmash.

Gotta perfect 'em. ;_____;

 

[Stealth Raptor]

yeah dash attack has its uses, its forward momentum allows you to push that extra inch and punish what you may not be able to otherwise

i was also being semi serious >:O

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

I never understood why more people don't dash attack. I love that move.

 

[Leaf.]

When I'm deciding to dash attack, I generally save it for high percentages, otherwise I don't like it.
Is bthrow>bair really guaranteed? I never knew it.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

No, B-throw bair is never guaranteed. It is just really unexpected and hard to react to.

 

[KayLo!]

Yeah, when I say "gimp combo," it means a combo that shouldn't work at all but frequently does.

Bthrow at low percentages can set up for a bair depending on what the opponent does, but they can easily DI away or jump out of it before the bair comes. It's just that a lot of people have a habit of DI'ing back into the ****, or they think they can beat all of Pika's aerials with ______ move and don't anticipate bair's funky range.

 

[Pikabunz]

Bthrow to skull bash always seems to work for Anther. Lol.

 

[Ussi]

fthrow > dthrow > bthrow best combo ever

 

[M15t3R E]

And don't forget about d-throw > nair

i do uthrow to thunder, omg works every time, its gauranteed right?

This works great!! ... At extremely high %'s.

 

[KayLo!]

Dthrow > nair isn't a gimp combo....... it's actually a pretty solid one. x.o

You failed at this game. >=(

 

[M15t3R E]

Dthrow > nair isn't a gimp combo....... it's actually a pretty solid one. x.o

You failed at this game. >=(

When did I say d-throw > nair is a gimp combo.......?
You were the only person mentioning gimp combos.

 

[KayLo!]

Wut.

The whole past page+ has been about gimp combos, then you came in & said "And don't forget about......" so it naturally sounded like you were trying to add to the current convo. Lol.

 

[M15t3R E]

I didn't think of a 'gimp' combo defined as one that only works some of the time, like your definition. I thought of a gimp combo as something that actually gimps the opponent, lol.
And it sounded like we were just listing off combos in general.

 

[Pikabunz]

How does dthrow>nair gimp someone?

 

[KayLo!]

*facepalm*

I'm exiting the thread now, lol.

@Prime: It doesn't. Unless they have the world's most horrendous DI...... or if they bounce off something like PS1's windmill I guess.

 

[M15t3R E]

It doesn't gimp. It's just a solid combo to remember against any opponent. That's why I gave it an honorable mention.
Geeze.

 

[Pikabunz]

That was a rhetorical question. I know it doesn't gimp. I'm just wondering why you would say dthrow>nair for gimp combos when you know it doesn't gimp.