Pichu Vs Kirby

[DerfMidWest]

Well yes, I was comparing them to puff though... I think my argument sounds a little like I'm saying kirby is unusable, so I'd like to clarify, no character is unusable, and I have respect for lowtier mains, however I feel that Pichu has more potential and overall is a better character than kirby.

 

[BunBun]

Kirby and Pichu are both unusable.

I said it.

 

[DerfMidWest]

I disagree, there is no such thing as "unusable"
If anything, Pichu and kirby just take a little more skill and mindgames to use well.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Master Hand is unusable, Pichu and Kirby are not.

 

[KingClubber]

Wow, he does not have faith in his on characters, now that's sad. I know pichu is a good character he Pichu problem is that he doesn't get any rewards for risks, I hope project M fixes that in the future.

But to not have faith that your character could top everyone else if gain the experience, and money to prove it, is really bad.

Can Pichu beat top tiers, yes i know this as an fact, and im sure Kirby can do this to, i hope other kirby players have more confidence in kirby's ability then you do.

Pichu only really counter that i've seen or played is characters with swords because of they're extra range. But Pichu can really beat just about everyone else if your good, and know your match up.

 

[BunBun]

Yup, Pichu can beat everyone without a sword.

Except:
Fox
Falco
Peach
Jigglypuff
Shiek
Samus
Doc
Ganon
IC
Mario
Zelda
and a couple others that don't matter.



I don't have false dreams about characters I play. How about you?

 

[ryuu seika]

Lol kirby isnt even a puff without rest, he plays nothing like puff cause his areals are balls.

Jigglypuff is a good Kirby clone, not the other way round.
In SSB64, Jiggly was rubbish. Then Melee came along and he stole 90% of Kirby's moves. Now he's great. Keep in mind that it's Kirby's moves that are winning games, not Jiggly's.

 

[KingClubber]

Yup, Pichu can beat everyone without a sword.

Except:
Fox
Falco
Peach
Jigglypuff
Shiek
Samus
Doc
Ganon
IC
Mario
Zelda
and a couple others that don't matter.



I don't have false dreams about characters I play. How about you?

 

[BunBun]

It's impossible for a wave to reflect off a higher density surface and not be inverted when it is reflected.

Congrats, you lose, and are a moron.

 

[BunBun]

Also, I never used the word "Impossible"

 

[KingClubber]

thats pretty much what you said, that you don't believe that pichu could beat a top tier or just about anyone, so your saying it's impossible, and just because it hasn't been done doesn't mean it's impossible, it just means no one has done it yet

 

[BunBun]

Mmmmk. So nothing is impossible?
That's fine. How about "Highly improbable, with a chance less than .000000001%", which is effectively impossible.

In the case of two top level players who are equally skilled and are knowledgeable and familiar with the matchup, the likelihood of the Kirby or Pichu player beating the Fox player is on the same scale as a warm cup of coffee in a cool room unaidedly getting warmer instead of cooler. No, theoretically it's not impossible, but the universe doesn't let it happen, ever.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

So you are assuming that they are familiar with the Pichu/Kirby match-up, which is a pretty large and somewhat silly assumption.

 

[BunBun]

I...
I just...


You can't seriously claim a character has a chance of winning based on the incompetence of your opponent...
At that point it's not the character who wins, it's the player.

Like, holy ****.

 

[DerfMidWest]

mmm... I actually usually will counterpick a marth or a fox or falco with my pichu...
My pichu does really good against marths, and spacies are easy to combo and set up for gimps, their recovery is extremely predictable and pichu punishes it well.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I...
I just...


You can't seriously claim a character has a chance of winning based on the incompetence of your opponent...
At that point it's not the character who wins, it's the player.

Like, holy ****.

If match-ups were based on character vs. character alone, Fox would 100-0 everyone.

 

[Pink Reaper]

No, he wouldn't. You're ********. Please for the love of god stop posting.

 

[BunBun]

No, he wouldn't. You're ********. Please for the love of god stop posting.

This. Even using the "Perfect Play" argument, fox doesn't beat everything.

In perfect play, IIRC, it is:
((Fox=Bowser)>Falco)>rest of cast in idfk what order

 

[DerfMidWest]

Yea fox wouldn't have a 100-0 on everybody... He's a great character and all, but so many characters have great counters against him.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

No, he wouldn't. You're ********. Please for the love of god stop posting.

This. Even using the "Perfect Play" argument, fox doesn't beat everything.

In perfect play, IIRC, it is:
((Fox=Bowser)>Falco)>rest of cast in idfk what order

Nice strawman, bros. The point I was trying to make was that match-ups don't assume that both players are perfect, they are an indicator of current top level play. Do you think that Dr. Peepee knows the Pichu match-up?

 

[Pink Reaper]

idk, let me text him and ask

 

[KingClubber]

Think he's coming back?

 

[BunBun]

While he may not have experience in it, I'm sure he knows the theory behind it well enough to win.

 

[Cheebs]

Yeah, that guy knows everything about Melee

 

[Pink Reaper]

Kevin's being gay, he's not texting me back lol.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

It's cause he's trying to think of an intelligent sounding answer

 

[KingClubber]

LOL, awesome

 

[BunBun]

It's more like he got a text and he's like "Who's number is that? "

Also, I'm convinced the both of you above me are like...15. Am I right?

 

[KingClubber]

LOL, Wrong add about 10 year to that

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I'm 15 though