Phantom Hits 2 CONFIRMED December 5th (First post update)

[VA]

lol ben's downfall is attitude. tough nut to crack but he's imrpoved a lot since TNJ2. he used to actually sucks, since beating monty he got a lot better

 

[Bullet Bill]

lots of arguements?!?! But anyway discussing seeding etc is fine. What I'll do is read back at these posts when I come to do the seeds.

V.A. -I'd rather get along than not!!!! Even on the boards! sorry for anything I said that was harsh

Pro- you're pestering me

Tamoo- I'd beg to differ, I am very confident in my matchup vs jiggs and even though we've had some close games, I'm still fairly confident I can beat you

 

[Professor Pro]

Ben is annoyed at me on msn people .

 

[VA]

I just realised, I never whine about playing bad, I just say I choked. And I ALWAYS choke

 

[Tamoo]

We'll see Ben Im pretty confident myself, especially considering I space as opposed to last time we played and they were close enough matches.

Blinky!!!: You def coming to this thing then yeah? Id be more than happy to mm you, especially if its a marth lol. Also, u haven't played me in about half a year lol, how can you quantify who's better out of me and ben without knowing how good or bad we are lol?

 

[Brado]

Sorry bout flaking this, but me and Calzum won't be able to make this. It's all money johns from me, 15 and no income, I haven't got a way to pay for this ):

I'll be trying my hardest to attend the next big UK event, I wanna play some more of the top players.

 

[L-J]

Robby
Jam
Joe
Tamoo
Coey
Craig
Bullet Bill
L-J

vs

Fuzzy
Pro
Edwin
Chrisboi
Kman
J3ly
Gantz
Synapse

???

thats the top 8 of each side, im happy to do a 5,6 or 8v8.

If we did this it would be awesome. Who knows maybe we could silence some of the London trashtalk

 

[J03]

"That's **** for OoLondon.
I see London having two/three players left." what does that even mean, its just a massive contridiction.

honestly, from that list my money is on OoLondon

 

[Blinky]

We played just over 2 months ago lol. You also seem far too confident.

BTW, no I'm not coming to this, I can't get out of uni till at least 5pm, by that time I'd have to get to the train station (as a coach wouldn't be viable due to time), and make the 6+ hour trip, costing stupid ammounts of money, so unless I find some really good train times/costs, it just isn't happening. Sorry Ben.

Also, I know because it is obvious.

 

[MaNg0]

Ben is annoyed at me on msn people .

i check this thread just to find a post by u and quote it

=D

 

[J03]

do you like mangoes?

Looking forward to PH2, Looking to really put it to everyone!

still dont think anyone will take down Fuzzy, ill have to step up to the challenge if the rest of you cant =/.

 

[Brado]

shizzle ma nizzle mango's here ;0

Aww you guys make me wanna goo....anyone wanna pay train fares? =D

Fuzzy to win

 

[Clockmire]

thats much better

we should trade weegee tips at this. for now my advise is use the up air, its pretty sick.

Lol definitely. I need to 'step up' my game though - atm it looks like you'll be giving all the advice ^^.

Your consistent perfect wdashing makes me envious. Do you ever try chain grabbing uthrows against spacies, kamaster style (like, DI chase with a wdash)?

 

[rustediron]

do you like mangoes?

 

[COEY]

Lol definitely. I need to 'step up' my game though - atm it looks like you'll be giving all the advice ^^.

Your consistent perfect wdashing makes me envious. Do you ever try chain grabbing uthrows against spacies, kamaster style (like, DI chase with a wdash)?

i wish my wavedashing was perfect lol, i get punished so much for accidentally full jumping instead of wavedashing :/

the chaingrab on fd isnt something id try in a serious game as you need to judge your wavedash on how well they di, its not very safe. i tend to up throw to upsmash at 0% for falco and like 5% for fox, at slightly higher percents up throw to well timed downsmash at say 15-35%, then at slightly higher percents again up throw to up tilt or wavedash ftilt if they di. at at like 75+% you can usually upthrow to dair. hope this helps thought youd appreciate something more indepth.

 

[Clockmire]

Mm. I hate full jumping accidentally.

Maybe I just watched a video where you pull off a lot of them or something, but my impression of your wdashing was good, lol.

Love uthrow --> dair. It's good to know when I can actually use it on spacies, though ^^.

You can do it a lot earlier on Marth, I think? He *might* be able to fair at some percents.
(I don't 100% trust the things I can do on frugs/hugo :] ).

I'll post my thoughts on Jigglypuff after Sunday when I play Tamao :D

 

[Clockmire]

Down B clinks with Marth's fsmash under certain conditions, lol (It might be an aerial one as opposed to grounded).

Bair edgeguard ***** him.

You can probably/can punish shielded fsmash with wdash out of shield ---> up b.
(You can punish Fox/Falco's fsmash with an up b if they hit you with the close range hitbox (like, they fsmash right next to you instead of with the tip/end).
You can punish Link's up b with a wdash up b :D (probably not very useful though).

Sometimes it's fun to tech-chase guess a dthrow with a wdash up b.
Dthrow tech-chase with down b.
Currently investigating at what %s you can down b into up b on spacies (final hit of down b, if its possible regardless of DI etc.etc.)

Lol this is my only advice atm (I think the first thing might be the only thing you don't know, though).

 

[Alpha Dash]

I'm gonna make myself a hit list at this event I have a score to settle with some people.

And "OoLondon" ? psh you guys honestly think you stand a chance... :D

 

[Tamoo]

Ive got a luigi tip

Wavedash forward off an edge whilst fireballing and you keep your horizontal momentum in the air.

 

[Professor Pro]

"That's **** for OoLondon.
I see London having two/three players left." what does that even mean, its just a massive contridiction.

honestly, from that list my money is on OoLondon

How is that a massive contradiction???
I said it will be **** for you lot and then basically said when we take out your 8 people we will still have life two/three players left to spare lol.

And two/three players left to spare is ****.

We might aswell do a little side bet if everyone on that 8 vs 8 list comes along.

£10?

i check this thread just to find a post by u and quote it

=D

Well I guess it's prob something to do with me being the best fox in Europe lol ??????

still dont think anyone will take down Fuzzy, ill have to step up to the challenge if the rest of you cant =/.

You will struggle to even get a piece of the pot, let alone take down Fuzzy.

Just stick to trying to getting third and let the better people do the rest.

 

[Bullet Bill]

i check this thread just to find a post by u and quote it

=D

ok?

 

[Alpha Dash]

Ive got a luigi tip

Wavedash forward off an edge whilst fireballing and you keep your horizontal momentum in the air.

I'll be borrowing that info, Ive been playing a bit of luigi recently

 

[Tamoo]

Its not as useful as it sounds tho lol, cos the afterlag on the fireball is pretty ****ty

And prof, it was a contradiction cos if it was **** for us, its implying that we are going to provide the ****, rather than the other way round.

 

[Professor Pro]

And prof, it was a contradiction cos if it was **** for us, its implying that we are going to provide the ****, rather than the other way round.

Not in my terminology.

'That's **** for OoLondon.' Means that you lot will be getting *****.
Like if someone was to pick a dumb character against me I would say 'But that's **** for you' as I say all the time to fools like LAST DRAGON AND GANTZ WHEN THEY DON'T TAKE ME SERIOUSLY loool.

I think you're just saying it in the wrong tone in your head which makes it sound like it is a contradiction.

 

[j3ly]

people, people please we should not be settling our disputes with words, we should be settling it with who has the best taste in music!!

which means i win, all of you shup :flame:

 

[j3ly]

prof go play farmville or somethin

 

[Tamoo]

Everyone wins!

Cos everyone's own music tastes are the best to them

good solution j3ly

 

[Alpha Dash]

Ahh boo lets continue talking about your destruction!

 

[Clockmire]

Everyone wins!

Cos everyone's own music tastes are the best to them

Rise against is ****.


..

 

[Clockmire]

Is it possible to drill rest by the way (Either completely aerial or drill into the ground followed by l-cancel into rest)?

Also, do you remember that time I rested Mike when he was drilling me as fox? Lol.

 

[j3ly]

Everyone wins!

Cos everyone's own music tastes are the best to them

good solution j3ly

awwww u managed to make my solution gay



Figures showed that 66% of people prefered j3lys taste in music.
33% preferedd tamoos taste.

THIS JUST IN!!
a shock study just showed, that aprox. 33% of people are homosexual! Well aint that a btich..



when i do have the time to upload everything, ima put tunes that match the players personality. dash gets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJvN9cgh4WA cause i always think of him when it gets played.

You, on the other hand, get this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhK_bK5l_58&feature=related

 

[Professor Pro]

Is it possible to drill rest by the way

Yes it is.

Figures showed that 66% of people prefered j3lys taste in music.
33% preferedd tamoos taste.

So what about the 1% left of people

They liked Fuzzyness music.

 

[j3ly]

they dont listen to music

 

[j3ly]

they prefer, u kno, nature and stuff


ooohhh, i get it your jealous because u dont get a tune!

comming right up..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_mol6B9z00

 

[COEY]

Mm. I hate full jumping accidentally.

Maybe I just watched a video where you pull off a lot of them or something, but my impression of your wdashing was good, lol.

Love uthrow --> dair. It's good to know when I can actually use it on spacies, though ^^.

You can do it a lot earlier on Marth, I think? He *might* be able to fair at some percents.
(I don't 100% trust the things I can do on frugs/hugo :] ).

I'll post my thoughts on Jigglypuff after Sunday when I play Tamao :D

Hmm maybe it was a good video, my wavedashing is ok, should look my vids really and see how many times i actually mean to full jump.

Yea you can up throw dair marth tho it doesnt work at kill able percents, up throw fair is better as it can get a hit in most of the time even if the marth is trying to be clever and fair himself to get out of being hit.

One thing i will say is be very careful when you use your second jump recovering against jiggs. Its so ****ing gay.

Down B clinks with Marth's fsmash under certain conditions, lol (It might be an aerial one as opposed to grounded).

Bair edgeguard ***** him.

You can probably/can punish shielded fsmash with wdash out of shield ---> up b.
(You can punish Fox/Falco's fsmash with an up b if they hit you with the close range hitbox (like, they fsmash right next to you instead of with the tip/end).
You can punish Link's up b with a wdash up b :D (probably not very useful though).

Sometimes it's fun to tech-chase guess a dthrow with a wdash up b.
Dthrow tech-chase with down b.
Currently investigating at what %s you can down b into up b on spacies (final hit of down b, if its possible regardless of DI etc.etc.)

Lol this is my only advice atm (I think the first thing might be the only thing you don't know, though).

i believe an arial down b will go through or tie priority with alot of marths ground based stuff, according to the luigi guide it is better to start midair with the down b as it seems to give it extra priority. just be careful, if you miss the second hit of the down b it leaves you very vulnerable especially against marth.

bair edgeguard is really good against marth, you can also keep him off reversing you upair if he goes high above you onto the stage, or dair if you wait for him to use him side b and run off quick and catch him in lag.

Wavedash out of shield grab is your best bet against marth if you shield a fsmash, you have so much out of grabs vs marth, dthrow is usally best at a killable %.

good that you know about up b'ing fox anf falco out of their upsmash, im sure you know this works on a range of dash attacks, also you can use it against falcon if he badly spaces a nair.

jab reset up b is the best way to tech chase to up b's, its basically the same idea as jiggs jab reset rest.

tech chasing from the downthrow on spacies is very underused but really good, tho personally the up b can leave you in bad places i tend to only use it against spacies once ive already hit them, or to break combos. just tech chase them to ftilt, or a regrab. f throw is really good at mid percents on spacies, you can usually get a free ftilt if you do this, and every edgeguard on spacies can be death for them

Ive got a luigi tip

Wavedash forward off an edge whilst fireballing and you keep your horizontal momentum in the air.

Its not as useful as it sounds tho lol, cos the afterlag on the fireball is pretty ****ty.

youve pretty much covered that one, it can be fun to do off platforms and can be used when edgeguarding apparently, seems a little situational for me and anything that carries you slightly off the stage is always gonna be risky especially when edgeguarding fox.

hope some of this helps.

will

 

[Alpha Dash]

awwww u managed to make my solution gay



Figures showed that 66% of people prefered j3lys taste in music.
33% preferedd tamoos taste.

THIS JUST IN!!
a shock study just showed, that aprox. 33% of people are homosexual! Well aint that a btich..



when i do have the time to upload everything, ima put tunes that match the players personality. dash gets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJvN9cgh4WA cause i always think of him when it gets played.

You, on the other hand, get this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhK_bK5l_58&feature=related

LOOL this post is legendary

 

[Clockmire]

Lol, very in-depth. Cheers.

Generally jiggs is going to want to pressure you with her bair and lock you down to stop you from wdashing. I used to try and time my own bairs to hit her in between hers - this worked sometimes. But the act of tempting her to float higher to try and hit you was a better result, since you can then wdash underneath her and try utilt/usmash. I normally tried to get below her and mirror her aerial movements with wdashes so she doesnt get a horizontal advantage and bair you again.

I *think* if you shield her fsmash you can shot hop dair. This sounds dumb but I've definitely done it before (it might be dependent on when you get hit by it though - not a 100% guarantee. Need to experiment). This could be a quicker and easier kill than up b or grab games at killing percentages on stages with a high ceiling. But, then again, it's Jiggs so maybe not.

My edgugarding against her is ****, lol. She's going to come in almost horizontal to the edge with bairs, dip under the ledge and then grab it. I don't really know what to do about that :/ . Tamao loves to grab the edge and bait people into trying to hit him, then let go of the edge and use Jiggs' immense aerial movement speed to punish them for it ^^

 

[J03]

Not in my terminology.

I think you're just saying it in the wrong tone in your head which makes it sound like it is a contradiction.

I think youre confusing the english language with whatever troll language you know.

Jiggs is mega horizontal in all aspects of her game. she cant sheild pressure luigi coz you can just wavedash (away) out of sheild, or towards for a surprise attack. Both luigi and jiggs are terrible on the vertical, so it will never be a fun matchup.

Will stop being mega ultra douche and upload some matches or send me some or something OR ANYTHING

 

[Professor Pro]

I think youre confusing the english language with whatever troll language you know.

That's what I say and other people in London.

Don't like it? Too bad.

 

[Professor Pro]

they Prefer, U Kno, Nature And Stuff


Ooohhh, I Get It Your Jealous Because U Dont Get A Tune!

Comming Right Up..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_mol6b9z00

Banger!!!!