Persona 4 Arena Ultimax: Out in NA, It's Time You Burn That Dread

[Zankoku]

I figure most people are on defaults, but what's everyone's control scheme? Where buttons are:
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8

I have:
1 - Nothing
2 - Throw
3 - Burst
4 - Nothing
5 - A
6 - B
7 - C
8 - D

 

[Teczer0]

Thats an interesting setup Ankoku xD.

Mine is

1 - A
2 - C
3 - D
4 - nothing
5 - B
6 - OMC
7 - Burst
8 - Nothing

A C D
B OMC burst

Basically

 

[Zankoku]

Your top row is the exact input for Burst LOL.

 

[Teczer0]

Yea LOL

Funny enough, when I do blue bursts I tend to use the top three buttons and when I do gold or omb I use the one button I set.

I don't know why

I'm kinda interested in the A B C D layout you have though, I kinda want to try it but I think it'll confuse me :<

 

[Lythium]

A C x x
B D x x

I never use shortcuts.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Mine is the same as Lythium's.

I don't like to change my buttons every much unless its a 3D fighter.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Gotta admit that's an odd/interesting layout you've got Zankoku (I'm one to talk, of course), but I use...

A C Burst
B D OMC


I've actually been trying to phase out doing shortcuts for 2 button commands because really, it shouldn't be THAT difficult to do those normally all of a sudden.

 

[Zankoku]

I'm kinda interested in the A B C D layout you have though, I kinda want to try it but I think it'll confuse me :<

It's not out of having access to more tricks or anything, it's just what I always used. In IaMP, since there's not really any set layout, my buttons were WASD for directions, then P [ ] \ for A B C D. In Melty, same thing except I used \ for the A+D macro (as it prioritized D normally and made airthrowing easier) and added ; for Heat.

Hell, my "stick" has a WASD set of buttons instead of a stick.

In P4A, the only thing I think it makes more streamlined is the standard A-B-C combo sequence, but it's a lot harder to manually input throws (C and D being the ring finger and pinky), which is why I run a macro for it. I have the Burst macro just because I don't want to spend time thinking about which buttons to press when I need to break out of a game-winning combo or something. I guess OMCs are easy, I just press the first three buttons in a row.

 

[Jam Stunna]

2B 2B 2B 2B
S S S S

"S" being super

 

[LivewiresXe]

Ah yes, 2B or not 2B, that is the question. *rimshot*

 

[Teczer0]

In P4A, the only thing I think it makes more streamlined is the standard A-B-C combo sequence, but it's a lot harder to manually input throws (C and D being the ring finger and pinky), which is why I run a macro for it. I have the Burst macro just because I don't want to spend time thinking about which buttons to press when I need to break out of a game-winning combo or something. I guess OMCs are easy, I just press the first three buttons in a row.

Yea, thats why I liked the idea because of the A-B-C/1-2-3 input thats similar in like Marvel:

A B C
S

I think it would have made learning a bit easier for me, but oh well.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

A B C nothing
D nothing nothign nothing

 

[LivewiresXe]

So uh...I guess I should ask but is anybody like kind of a techie? I have sort of a semi-idea that I have no idea if it'd even remotely have a shot of working, but I figured if any of you guys know your electronics or connector stuff, or PS3 info bit, I could just ask you guys. Sorry if it seems off-topic but it might possibly be kinda on topic.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I don't own a stick of my own, but when I use my friends, I use:

A C OMC Nothing
B D Burst Nothing

 

[Crusayer]

I just tried to use default since I'm a pad / keyboard warrior and know nothing about stick layouts.

A B C Nothing
D N N N

That stick is so weird. Inputs flying everywhere @_@.

 

[Lythium]

Crusayer's layout was the one I used when I was playing Shabrys. It was more convenient that way, but default is a pretty good layout for me. I can understand why people would use it though.

So uh...I guess I should ask but is anybody like kind of a techie? I have sort of a semi-idea that I have no idea if it'd even remotely have a shot of working, but I figured if any of you guys know your electronics or connector stuff, or PS3 info bit, I could just ask you guys. Sorry if it seems off-topic but it might possibly be kinda on topic.

Just ask?

We won't know if any of us can answer your question unless we know what your question is, haha. I'm sure if someone knows, they'll answer to the best of their abilities or point you in the right direction.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Unless, it's some shady stuff.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Crusayer's layout was the one I used when I was playing Shabrys. It was more convenient that way, but default is a pretty good layout for me. I can understand why people would use it though.



Just ask?

We won't know if any of us can answer your question unless we know what your question is, haha. I'm sure if someone knows, they'll answer to the best of their abilities or point you in the right direction.

Well thank you miss obvious.


I guess long story short, I was wondering if there was like some way to use like an HDMI or like some HDMI to USB converter or composite USB or something to make gameplay from the PS3 show up say, on a window on my laptop screen, or have it pop up on the Laptop screen or something like that. I know Wirelessly you can make your PC show up on your PS3, but I'm 90-something percent sure that doesn't go the other way. Even with my Laptop being on an entirely different floor than the PS3 it's not really an issue since well, being a laptop I can just move it anyway. I figure if I can like even get it to essentially stream on the PC somehow, be in in a window, as a video, or even through the whole screen, then I should just be able to use the software I already have for getting tourney stream footage (which, isn't a web browser based/dependent one) as it's going like that to get some like say, matches, game stuff, glitches, or whatever on there.

It kinda SOUNDS like something that might possibly make sense or work, but...I keep getting this itching feeling it's not possibly that easy.

 

[Zankoku]

There is no way you're getting PS3's HDMI output onto your computer without a capture device and hardware that breaks the PS3's HDCP encryption. Both are commercially available through legal channels.

 

[LivewiresXe]

There is no way you're getting PS3's HDMI output onto your computer without a capture device and hardware that breaks the PS3's HDCP encryption. Both are commercially available through legal channels.

What about composites? Is there like a composite to USB thing I could use that would accomplish this since what I'm getting from that is that even Laptops with Input HDMI's instead of the typical Output ones some have would still get blocked. I don't need like 1080p, because hell, as long as it's relatively clear is fine as long as it's not getting the screen cut off in conversion over to the screen. And I guess well, would I need a separate one for the Audio too?

 

[Zankoku]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313212

 

[LivewiresXe]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313212

Bookmarked since on first glance it looks way more complicated than it probably is and I'll want to re-read it a crap ton of times so it makes sense. That, and hoping it runs fine on my 2GHZ/3(I think, the number's mostly faded off so could be 2) GB DDR2 Athlon running 32-bit despite saying it's got a 64 X2 Processor, lol.

Granted it seems the cheaper ones don't need installing, but the less cheap ones do. Though not sure on why extra cables would be required aside from Audio as I thought they went straight from the PS3/TV to the PC making that unnecessary? But luckily I have one of The Source, Staples, and Walmart in town so I don't think getting the necessary things'll be a problem (though I WOULD like it to be as cost-effective as possible, lol).

Anyway, I guess if I have more questions or if we're going to talk on this more we should probably like, do it over PM so we don't wind up threadjacking a lot or something like that?

 

[Crusayer]

Extra cables are needed because of signal splitting. You want to play while you're recording right Lol. A lot of it really isn't that complicated if you aren't looking to minimize requirements.

Is the encore one any better than the dazzle aisight?

I'll also need to try out those settings too since apparently my vdub lags but the built in pinnacle software doesn't.

480p PS3 recording looks like poo still.

 

[Zankoku]

If you have more questions on the topic of recording and you don't want to fill up this thread then post in that one.

The Encore is really good when it's good, having strong capture quality and outputting everything to USB instead of USB+3.5mm like the KWORlD does, but the hardware workmanship is hit-and-miss. One of the ones I got didn't have strong enough glue to keep the USB stick outside of the external plastic shell, and another one I got had audio capture issues and caused constant audio popping.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Extra cables are needed because of signal splitting. You want to play while you're recording right Lol. A lot of it really isn't that complicated if you aren't looking to minimize requirements.

Is the encore one any better than the dazzle aisight?

I'll also need to try out those settings too since apparently my vdub lags but the built in pinnacle software doesn't.

480p PS3 recording looks like poo still.

Well, I for some reason assumed I could play using the HDMI PS3 to TV plug while recording using the Composite but that doesn't REALLY make much sense I suppose. And I just said 480 because I was taking a guess at it being the highest non-HD spec. If there's say, 640p (never heard of it, so total random number drop) them by all means, lol. But yeah, like I said, as long as it doesn't cut off the edges of the screen, make it super dark, or generally super messed up, that's fine. As for that VirtualDub thing? Well, I guess it's a good thing I used to do a bunch of Video Editing back in the day.

Thanks.

 

[Zankoku]

(note: following resolutions are NTSC only. PAL uses different resolutions like 576p)
Composite (yellow) only does 480i. Component can do 480i, 480p, 720i, 720p, and 1080i. HDMI does all of that plus 1080p. Obviously, it's impossible to output two different resolutions simultaneously through two different output formats, or even two different resolutions through two of the same output formats, let alone outputting interlaced and progressive video simultaneously... The closest you can get to that kind of magic is simultaneous 480i output from both SVideo and composite.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Okay...I'm not going to lie, aside from (I think) getting that Composite only does 480i and tops out at that, I'm admittedly confused by the rest of that statement. Sorry, I'm not a techie and some things like this confuse the hell out of me way more than they should someone my age.

 

[Crusayer]

It means you can't play HD and get standard def at the same time. That's just wishful thinking.

 

[LivewiresXe]

It means you can't play HD and get standard def at the same time. That's just wishful thinking.

Oh, okay. And yeah, I don't particularly feel like spending a crap ton on something to get HD working on my laptop that doesn't even have an HDMI port. Well, I guess it's lucky I was primarily going to use it for fighters, so it doesn't matter all that much, huh?

 

[Zankoku]

I don't even know what you're trying to do, so I can't answer whether the resolution matters or not.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I don't even know what you're trying to do, so I can't answer whether the resolution matters or not.

Essentially I'm trying to potentially take some AE2012/Persona/Blazblue matches or replays or whatever, and get them on my PC so that in the future when I'm asking for advice and stuff, I can just easy link them. And plus well, if I happen to have a good match, I might want to just re-watch it without worrying about my game replays getting filled. So yeah, it's nothing super fancy, I just want some basic stuff like that without the quality being terribad or something. If that helps.

 

[Zankoku]

If you normally play your games on a 480i TV, then no, resolution won't matter. If you normally use an HDMI cable and play your games 1080p but don't have the proper equipment to capture it so you're downgrading to composite, then yes, you'll have an issue because of the inherent lag from 480i signal being upscaled and deinterlaced on your HDTV.

 

[Crusayer]

Osht, it actually creates additional lag to use composite on a HDTV?

Guess I'll have to use my 20 year old CRT to record videos like for smash `-`.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

CRV TVs are the best TVs, unless you're trying to read stuff.

 

[Zankoku]

I prefer LCD EDTVs, personally, but those are hard to come by.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

What does the ED stand for?

 

[Zankoku]

Enhanced Definition. It's a silly little format specifically for 480p that Wiis were made for at the time, and it happened to be popular for a bit around the era where plasma TVs were in style.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Wait plasma TVs aren't in style? Isn't that what they make HDTVs with?

 

[Zankoku]

Modern HDTVs are typically either LED or LCD.

(though not really LED, just for the backlighting)

 

[LivewiresXe]

If you normally play your games on a 480i TV, then no, resolution won't matter. If you normally use an HDMI cable and play your games 1080p but don't have the proper equipment to capture it so you're downgrading to composite, then yes, you'll have an issue because of the inherent lag from 480i signal being upscaled and deinterlaced on your HDTV.

(side note, PC actually has 3GB memory, forgot "My Computer" just says at the bottom)

I think since my HDTV was manufactured on April 2005 (holy crap) it might be old enough for that to not matter yet.

TV's pretty much this: http://images.owneriq.net/download/images/1/1689759a-369e-6ee4-c1ec-271dd8033671-000001.png (the JVC AV-30W585 model, with like a 14 inch back that weighs like 100 pounds, lol)

And the back pretty much looks like this: http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc50/Dorsaqc/A vendre/JVCConnect.jpg (with a 4th RWY connector on the right side of the fron)


But...of course I dunno if older HDTV's matter.