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Paper Mario Mafia: Day 4 finally ends! Luigi wins!

#HBC | J

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j hurry up please. deadlines in 3 days. ill push the kary wagon for you if we cant go ronike due you being busy if needed

:phone:
I'm not going to sleep tonight till I get that post up. But if I fail somehow, yes do this.

d1 lynch: Kary
n1 vig: Rajam/Ronike
d2 lynch: *Whichever of the two above is left in*
n2 vig: Chibo/John
d3 lynch: Sang/Pierce
n3 vig: Whoever is left of Chibo/John

GG?
 

#HBC | J

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Joooooohn.

Can you play this game more and make it easier for me to read you? ;_;

For me?
 

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Alright J, for you.
<3



I'm going to take a walk for an hour or so, give me things to respond to when I get back. Will also re-skim.
 

#HBC | J

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Okay, tell me why you won't join the Kary wagon. Why is Bardull a better choice?

What did you make of the Ronike suspicion? Who is scummier out of Ronike/Rajam?

Would you lynch Sang? Are you content with leaving Pierce alive till he has data?

Marshy is a town-bro? Yes or No?

Duuude,



<3
 

#HBC | marshy

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dont waste our time telling us why bardull is a better wagon john. just vote ronike/kary please

seph can we just ****ing lynch ronike/kary already please? holy ****. bardull wont "escape your grasp" its ****ing bardull dude

adum i dont consider you a priority were just stuck with seph killing you when people can go before you

request votecount

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d1: lynch ronike
n1: vig rajam
d2: quicklynch kary
n2: chibowned
d3: lynch sangfroid
n3: adumb i guess? why not

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Alright about to leave so Unvote for now. A skim over your Q's, J:

Not joined Kary because skimming.
No clue on the second yet.
Skimming through your questions, Marshy can be my town bro.

I really owe you guys a re-read, which I will do tonight. Promise. =)


Marshy what do you have me as, since I'm not on that Play list of yours?


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#HBC | marshy

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i dont see why it matters. i dont think we have to read the whole game d1. just rather slaughter everyone outside of a circle

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J (0)
SangfroidWarrior (0)
Rajam (0)
John2k4 (0)
Pierce7d (0)
Chibosempai (0)
BarDulL (4) Pierce, OS, Kary, Seph
Sephiroths Masamune (0)
Ronike (2) Adum, bardull
adumbrodeus (1) Rajam
Kary (3) Sang, J, marshy
Overswarm (0)
marshy (0)

Not voting: Chibo, Ronike, John

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
 

#HBC | marshy

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Bardull goes toDay
:thumbsdown:

i really dont give a **** who confident you project yourself to be over this. im not about to let town follow you when we have better targets and better scumhunters telling us where to go. man it takes a lot of "posting endurance" to keep up with you. pretty much just going to keep undermining you til j saves the day (har har)
 

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Except I'm three people. Also we have Kary, because if Bardull flips scum Kary might live tomorrow given certain player's incessant defense of him.
 

#HBC | marshy

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nah. that pool i posted is good. were mostly just waiting for seph to make his pool of 7 and j to explain why kary goes today. nice try tho
 

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OS is worried because I'm a boss hog gangsta.



Can we lynch Ronike now, or are you all just going to sit here chatting away about lynching myself/Kary but not going into depth with scum reads?
 

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iight. seph. look at this. ****ing read this post thoroughly and seriously think about it. this **** is getting needlessly complicated and i am going to outline why kary/ronike need to be ****ed outta hear TODAY

today we are lynching either kary/bardull/ronike. we dont have time for a last minute bull**** wagon on someone else when town has spent the majority of the day phase focusing on these three. i think you can agree with me on this

look at bardull. you/os/pierce all have an eye on him. you want him dead and os has been pushing his lynch. ive explained why j wont just give him a "forever town" read and nor will i. check out tales of symphonia mafia where ive flipped on a prior town read as the game reached a boiling point. me (YOU BELIEVE ME TO BE PROTOWN)/adumbro/j (YOU BELIEVE HIM TO BE PROTOWN)/sangfroid have stated that we believe bardull to be of protown alignment (well sangfroid kinda mentioned it in passing but whatever. she doesnt want to lynch him today)

look at ronike. a wagon put him at -2 in a ****ing DAY irl. that says something about his play. his play has been so unspectacular (sorry bronike we still bros you just gotta die here. btw we oughta hydra again some time) that town literally killed him in less than like 12 hours in real time. pierce (YOU BELIEVE HIM TO BE PROTOWN) has stated weirdness about his play. j (YOU BELIEVE HIM TO BE PROTOWN) has pointed out weirdness about his play. adumbro has as well and if hes scum hes the bussing type anyway. i (YOU BELIEVE ME TO BE PROTOWN) want him to die before this game ends

look at kary. there is some doubt as to his alignment from bardull (i believe?) and ronike (whos gotta go anyway) but ALMOST THE ENTIRE TOWN HAS STATED THAT HE CAN GO. i (YOU BELIEVE ME TO BE PROTOWN) dont give a **** if he dies. j (YOU BELIEVE HIM TO BE PROTOWN) says he can go as well. you YOURSELF have stated that hes scummier than bardull

so what the **** seph? do we really have to do this ****? on d1? when weve got a ****load of mother****ers we are about to buttannihilate? me/pierce/j (YOU BELIEVE ALL OF US TO BE PROTOWN) have all stated that we will keep an eye on bardull. were NOT just giving him a pass to endgame. were just focusing on other targets (targets you YOURSELF agree with). can we not just ****ing lynch kary/ronike and be done with this dayphase like it should have days ago? do you really have to stiffarm your townreads who have OPENLY STATED that they will continue to watch out for bardull?

yes i know me constantly tugging thread power from you in order to go kary/ronike is annoying and tiresome. i dont like doing it either but its gotta be done to keep town focused on those two and ive explained why bardull living is fine. lets just ****ing kill kary/ronike and be done with it. theyre a common interest. preferably ronike. deadline is in a few days and its the weekend. town doesnt need to talk in circles when scum are just stalling the game at this point. we gotta move at this point
 

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Reading at 2:30AM is not the best of ideas. ._.

I will resume later today after rest.
 

#HBC | marshy

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j youre online. if we switch to bronike now we can get that lynch through and go kary tomorrow. what say you?
 

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marshy, you're online.
can you please sell me on ronike, briefly. I didn't see obvscum in the response to your gun question.
I've other **** to talk about but most of that isn't super-relevant right now.
 

#HBC | Kary

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hmm, ok marshy-o.
I don't like the way the Bardull waggon happened, but I don't like Bardull full stop, still think he's the best play for today.

p.s. Sang, my picks look like Bardull > Ronike > J/adum but I don't have a lot to work with.
 

#HBC | J

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I cannOt believe I am attempting this on an iPhone but here it goes because Kary's last post just is getting me fired up.

Kary has absolutely no care as to who we lynch toDay, as long as it is not him. He has been solely appealing to the other wagons and pushing them just to get people off his own backside toDay. He says he has Bardull as scum but his last post is him looking for a way to backdoor out of that read and try and hop onto Ronike (who can also die, I just feel more strongly about Kary with the way he is playing toDay)

Kary has literally stopped almost all forms of scumhunting in order for him to do two things:

1.) Appeal to the opposing Bardull/Ronike wagons.
2.) Use FUD in an attempt to dispell his wagon.

He has not even combated the major points against him lately and instead he uses the point of saying things like "don't lynch me guys, it'd be bad" or my favorite "so everyone finds me scummy right? What's the point?" because it just shows his motive. it's purely for survival and not for finding scum. From the very beginning he has been fake when he was doing that "case" thing with Sang which looked more like an attempt for him to join Adumb if he did push Sang more but if Adumb backed out (which happened) Kary was able to say that it was all a rouse and that he did it for a reaction on Sang, but he never even went fully into detail with it not did he try to get more reaction out of Sang, he just let it sit. However I would like to make a point here, I will be fair and say that I could see the town intent from Kary's posts at this time in the game but it just looks so poor/scummy that it's like 80-20 in the ratio of scumminess to towniness.

His case on Bardull was weak but the thing is, he was forced to make that case on him so I really cannot go too too much into it without stretching things.

Speaking of which, I am going in on the Bardull thing right now if I have time. Okay, there is no case on Bardull and let's look at the wagon.

Seph, no case and purely just pushing him at this point to get his way over myself/marshy. He has even when aske to provide reasonings, he's pushed it over to Kary's case, who is one of his scum-reads. I will quote when I get home but Seph has 0% explanation for his Bardull read besides just calling him scum.

pierce is on it for purely being in the alliance for toDay's sake. (totally think he should join me/marshy over Seph but eeeeh what do?)

OS just wants BArdull lynched because he does not agree to his logic and has gotten this mentality that it is great to lynch Bardull for every reason like he is scummy and anti-town which is not at all the case because unlike a good majority of the players this game, Bardull has been entering himself into the fray and also has been scum-hunting on people.

I see no reason to believe Bardull as scum because no one has pointed out why he is scummy in detail or not been entirely vague about it. He is pro-town at the moment and makes a terrible D1 lynch over people like Kary/Ronike/Rajam. Heck, if it came down to it, I'd lynch Chibo over Bardull even though I dislike lynching inactives over actively scummy people.

Okay I am at the place where I need to be so I will try to continue this later but here it is.

This was for you marsh because I shouldn't have waited and this seriously needs to be pushed.

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i appreciate it j. however it may be wisest to go ronike today since we can cinch that. we can hardbody quicklynch kary 2 da maximum d2. what are your thoughts on this proposal? we can either join adum/bardull on ronike and beckon others or tell them to vote kary with us which would put kary at -2. i vastly prefer ronike but bothve gotta go. what do you say j?

Ronike (2) Adum, bardull
adumbrodeus (1) Rajam
Kary (3) Sang, J, marshy
 

#HBC | marshy

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lol @ kary wanting to be townbros with j but not just joining us on ronike by the way

pseudo bromanship right there brah
 

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We're two days until deadline. I'm a big fan of using the whole day phase to scumhunt, but I'd enjoy seeing some type of agreement made today. Last minute shenanigans could get ugly. Marshy, OS, Seph, maybe J need to actually discuss this, and should try to determine a time when they're going to do it.
 

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Bardull's the lynch. J's stuff on Kary is without merit in comparison as Bardull has actually done more than that; Kary has actually been posting.

Bardull is the lynch for today, and there will be no deviation from this.
 

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nah. **** you and your ineptitude with regards to scumhunting os. ill talk to seph who actuallys knows how to make a good play
 

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I've (skim) read the replies, and this is what I came up with, and the best you're gonna get, marshy.


Point one: I do not see RonikeScum. That's tough luck, but I'm getting back at that later.

Point two: I am disturbed by people who go for Ronike over KaryScum or BardullScum. Looking at you, Adumb, Bardull and even Kary at this point. (which is the scumteam imo)

Point three: I feel like Kary vs Bardull, for what it happened, is Scum vs Scum, and even til this point they treat each other like scum.

Now Marshy, this is what you can get from me;

Lynch: Bardull > flips scum (I'm right)
Shoot: Adumb
Lynch: Kary
Shoot: [any of my still deciding]
Lynch: [any of my still deciding] etc etc

Lynch: Bardull > Flips town (I'm wrong)
Shoot: Ronike/Rajam / anyone you want
Lynch: Ronike/Rajam / anyone you want (that's 3 votes basically)


But Marshy, if you wanna fully cooperate on later stages, you're gonna have to go Kary today and not Ronike.

Yes, you have pretty words, but I still don't trust you guys to lynch Bardull, especially because you guys are planning to do a quicklynch/shoot game here, with Bardull on the town side. J is being dense as hell and no, I don't trust him to lynch scum whatsoever. Ryker maf, Mario Party maf, some others I can't name. I really don't see him playing well whatsoever lately and no, don't trust him.

Bardull vs Kary is SvS. That's how it is. I can't compensate on reads. However, if you're gonna pull a quick one on me, pull it on Kary, not Ronike.
 

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J WAS SCUM IN MARIO PARTY

J LYNCHED SCUM HARDBODY CONSISTENTLY IN CELEBRITY REHAB. HE WOULDVE WON THE GAME HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR OVERSWARM BEING A COMPLETE ****ING ******* AND WANTING THE HAND THE GAME TO SCUM

holy ****. you are just talking out of your *** now. its a shame i have to work with you
 

#HBC | J

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I actually had 2/3 of the scum-team in Ryker and I was also scum who skated in MP2. ;P

OS, you are saying a whole lot of nothing with Bardull. I'd appreciate some stuff more.

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#HBC | J

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Marshy, I would go Ronike but we wot get it with the way Seph/OS are. we can get Kary though.

get the votes, and I'll join is pretty much what im saying at this point.

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Rajam/Ronike/Sang uhhhh
Would have to go Sang? here, then.

Marshy just read those games for ****s sake.
What are you even arguing about now? Who I trust? Not your business. I don't trust J, that's all.

Marshy don't be so dense and just read back on them.
 

#HBC | J

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Marshy was in MP2 haha. also if you read Ryker I was the one who lynched scum d1 and helped D2.

But that's not really the point.

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I see no reason to believe Bardull as scum because no one has pointed out why he is scummy in detail or not been entirely vague about it. He is pro-town at the moment and makes a terrible D1 lynch over people like Kary/Ronike/Rajam. Heck, if it came down to it, I'd lynch Chibo over Bardull even though I dislike lynching inactives over actively scummy people.
How can you trust someone who needs others to scumhunt for him :urg:

Just look at his posts yourself, J. You're viewing the thread. Go back right now and look at his posts. Tell me WHAT is protown about them?

It's been hollow questions, hollow posts, all under the guise of being full of content. He has been asking people to make cases on him instead of just stepping it up, because he has been doing nothing since asking for cases.

I don't even know what's wrong with you guys at this point. How can my read be so terribly different?

And Marshy, tomorrow things will become more clear, so work with the headache for today.
 

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Let me just lay this out for you now, and hopefully we can put it to rest.

Kary has absolutely no care as to who we lynch toDay, as long as it is not him. He has been solely appealing to the other wagons and pushing them just to get people off his own backside toDay. He says he has Bardull as scum but his last post is him looking for a way to backdoor out of that read and try and hop onto Ronike (who can also die, I just feel more strongly about Kary with the way he is playing toDay)
No; I want Bardull today. I may settle for Ronike if I have to. If I did just want anyone today, surely I would've just voted Ronike.
I have not just been appealing to other waggons, look at my whole play today; I have been pushing the Bardull waggon and asking people for reads.

Kary has literally stopped almost all forms of scumhunting in order for him to do two things:

1.) Appeal to the opposing Bardull/Ronike wagons.
2.) Use FUD in an attempt to dispell his wagon.
No, seriously, no. I already explained that I can't be using FUD. If anything I'm using WIFOM. And I haven't stopped looking for scum, I'm still asking question, but most people are just arguing now about who the lynch should be and don't really want to chat about it.
He has not even combated the major points against him lately and instead he uses the point of saying things like "don't lynch me guys, it'd be bad" or my favorite "so everyone finds me scummy right? What's the point?" because it just shows his motive. it's purely for survival and not for finding scum. From the very beginning he has been fake when he was doing that "case" thing with Sang which looked more like an attempt for him to join Adumb if he did push Sang more but if Adumb backed out (which happened) Kary was able to say that it was all a rouse and that he did it for a reaction on Sang, but he never even went fully into detail with it not did he try to get more reaction out of Sang, he just let it sit. However I would like to make a point here, I will be fair and say that I could see the town intent from Kary's posts at this time in the game but it just looks so poor/scummy that it's like 80-20 in the ratio of scumminess to towniness.
Hey, you've tunneled me ever since I did something suspicious on purpose. I'd love to talk about that today, but it's just not important now because you're not a play today. Neither are Adum and Sang, and I got even less from them.
OH, and what major points against me? Because seriously all I've seen is like 'Oh Kary must be scum with X because (BS)' or 'I don't like Kary' or 'definitely Kary Day 2'.


Seriously, I was really hoping for 'Bardull is town because...' but instead you've just said that other people are scummier, and that you don't like the people on his waggon :ohwell:

J, my read on you is really confused. I'm going to try and come around and understand you better, but yeah I don't need you pushing me right now, not with posts like these, no offence.

Right, I've just been ninja'd by about 8 posts. Doesn't matter, i'm sure this stands.
 
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