Paper Mario Mafia: Day 4 finally ends! Luigi wins!

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Looool @J offering his vote "for a bit" tomorrow

Double lol @ Bardull still pushing this.

J, what do you make of that?

 

[John2k4]

You want me voting Kary, J?
I prefer the Barbell route...

 

[BarDulL]

Looool @J offering his vote "for a bit" tomorrow

Double lol @ Bardull still pushing this.

J, what do you make of that?

I could say the same thing about your pushing of my slot, Seph. Lets not be hypocritical AND dumb at the same time.

I'm gonna reread before I change my vote, but I'm not changing my mind about Ronike, gonna make that clear right now. Dead today or vigged tonight, he needs to go go go.

 

[#HBC | J]

You want me voting Kary, J?
I prefer the Barbell route...

@Seph: Still pushing what?

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

and right you are, John.

It's Bardull or Kary today, pushing Ronike is as anti-town as it gets, as it will cause issues higher up.

Hey Bardull nice defense bro, now die okay?
Orite I'm your scum read tho

Bardull pushing John2k for that remark in his latest post.

J have you reread this thread on Bardull? I swear there are some dumb things in there :/ He has EVERYONE WHO PUSHES HIM as scum read basically. What is up with that, J? Is that pro-town? Where are his posts NOT hollow/sheeping? I swear he is scummy as hell, I swear.

 

[BarDulL]

You mad Sephywephy?

By the way, I outed my reads earlier wise guy, and my only scum read right now is Ronike, with a sheepish scum lean on Kary but not the genuine article. John is mostly null. You just keep digging yourself in a deeper hole, lol.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

You mad Sephywephy?

By the way, I outed my reads earlier wise guy, and my only scum read right now is Ronike, with a sheepish scum lean on Kary but not the genuine article. John is mostly null. You just keep digging yourself in a deeper hole, lol.

I didn't see you outing your reads, but you imply I'm scum for it?

Nice half stance.

I swear, J/Marshy, read his recent posts. Tell me if there is even a sliver of town in there, I dare you.

 

[BarDulL]

I didn't see you outing your reads, but you imply I'm scum for it?

Nice half stance.

I swear, J/Marshy, read his recent posts. Tell me if there is even a sliver of town in there, I dare you.

LOL, I never implied you were scum, I'm implying that you're ****ing stupid and you are NOT allowed to lead Town under ANY circumstance, ya dip ****.

 

[BarDulL]

Haha, good lord, some people, I swear.

Alright, I'm putting my vote on Kary for the time being since J is my obvious town read, but I'm curious to see what Kary's claim is, so no one hammer yet please.

Vote: Kary

I'm gonna reread and try to substantiate my stance a bit more, but I need to take my bike in, so I'll be here later to make a stance.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

@mod request replacement on chibo

chibo would be replaced by frozen. that is about the worst possible thing that could happen for town

ill take a look at bardulls latest posts later

lol @ seph saying lynching ronike is anti town

lol @ bardull acting like john is scummy

 

[#HBC | marshy]

btw if frozen manages to get into this game (i REALLY ****ing hope not) then im counting on you seph to cap his *** sooner or later. if he manages to replace into our "needs to be lynched/vigged list" he ****ing WILL survive and let weaker minded protown players **** it up

if we could get frozen to replace a townread of ours (preferably os) then THAT would be awesome and ideal

dont let kary claim btw. just hammah dat *** when he hits -1

 

[#HBC | marshy]

you know whats an awesome idea thatll help town?

os replacing in as foreverzero. we get frozen and keep os that way. ballin idea yeah?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

would you be opposed to that os?

if you dont comply ima just replace out and make a hydra with frozen myself. not about to have him replace a "needs to die later" slot and ****ing up town

 

[Ronike]

Alright, busy day at internship, showing off stuff, so again, no time for this, for which I apologize. Ill try to catch up tomorrow, but in my skimming I notice bardumb still hasnt responded to anything from me, so as promised:

or rather, I should make sure this inst hammer. Request vote count

As soon as I know Im not hammering bar, Im voting for you.

 

[Overswarm]

I don't think metaing the game with hydras is a good idea.

While ForeverZero would be fun, it wouldn't stop the Chibo issue whatsoever. You worrying about yet another person that doesn't agree with you incessantly doesn't exactly make me confident in your presence. If there weren't so many ?'s, I'd probably shoot you if I had a gun given your play so far.


@MOD

You really need to step it up with votecounts/prods

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Overswarm, be a bro and convince some people to vote Bardull. That'd be sweet, thanks.

 

[Overswarm]

Kary is a ****ing worm. Any power player can mold that shrivelling, spineless player into whatever we want. Mafia or not, Kary isn't a threat and isn't someone we have to worry about "putting together a lynch".

Bardull is defiant, but takes no initiative. While Marshy/J and Seph/OS have been arguing over which lynch should take place, we've been providing alternatives and trades and doing so openly. Bardull has been nothing but defensive, abrasive, and opportunistic. As town or scum, he's a detriment.

Given that a lynch on Kary would result in absolutely no new information because Kary is, and always has been, a "meh" lynch coupled with the fact that we can make Kary be a vote slave whenever we want should make it obvious that Kary is a play but not the play.

More importantly, while Seph and I have been actively pursuing Bardull, Marshy/J have been actively protecting Bardull. There is a stark contrast in the approach the two pairs have made. Bardull's lynch would tell us much.

 

[John2k4]

J - I will need to think on that. Going to see Avengers in a bit; if there's something other than voting that needs to be addressed, speak now or it's gonna wait. =P

 

[BarDulL]

Kary is a ****ing worm. Any power player can mold that shrivelling, spineless player into whatever we want. Mafia or not, Kary isn't a threat and isn't someone we have to worry about "putting together a lynch".

Bardull is defiant, but takes no initiative. While Marshy/J and Seph/OS have been arguing over which lynch should take place, we've been providing alternatives and trades and doing so openly. Bardull has been nothing but defensive, abrasive, and opportunistic. As town or scum, he's a detriment.

Given that a lynch on Kary would result in absolutely no new information because Kary is, and always has been, a "meh" lynch coupled with the fact that we can make Kary be a vote slave whenever we want should make it obvious that Kary is a play but not the play.

More importantly, while Seph and I have been actively pursuing Bardull, Marshy/J have been actively protecting Bardull. There is a stark contrast in the approach the two pairs have made. Bardull's lynch would tell us much.

Is it sad that I got a town read from this post?

OS, quit being dense and vote for Kary if you think he's scum.

Secondly, you and Seph have been pushing my slot on a faulty, non-existent premise, as said a million times over. J and Marshy aren't "protecting me," they have been repetitively telling you and Seph that I'm not the play because neither of you can get it through your skulls that I'm pro-town as ****. The player you guys need to be looking into is Ronike, but both of you have your heads so far up your own ***** regarding my lynch that you guys can't seem to figure it out for yourselves.

Point of clarity: I want Ronike dead, and I'll let him get vigged or lynched, as long as he dies. I'll settle for Kary since I trust the J/Marshy slots, but I will be very adamant and open that I'm still trying to decide where to place Kary. As OS said (in nicer words), Kary is a bit indecisive because he is self-preservative about his slot, so there's some weakness in there as evidenced by how Kary isn't very staunch with his stances. I don't know if that's a clear cut scum tell or if it's just Kary being Kary though, which is my only differentiation in contrast with J/Marshy. I used to be a little afraid to push a slot as a new player in Dgames, but overtime I eventually got over it and pursued my lynch target regardless of what people thought of me. It takes some time, but eventually a player like myself or Kary will garner up some confidence eventually and overcome the fear. That's why I've been asking for the Kary case so many friggin' times.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

os is so bad guys. he cockblocks anything good from happening (scumfroidwarrior and scumnike getting lynched) and is pushing a crap wagon. he also seriously wants frozen to replace someone on the "needs to die" list

believe me bardull if i has my way ronike wouldve been dead long ago. we just have to compromise this cuz seph feels some need to whiteknight scum foolishly

more in a bit

 

[Overswarm]

Bardull, I have no reason to think Kary is scum.

 

[BarDulL]

You have no reason to think I'm scum either, you pain in the ***.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

1. Kary is a ****ing worm. Any power player can mold that shrivelling, spineless player into whatever we want. Mafia or not, Kary isn't a threat and isn't someone we have to worry about "putting together a lynch".

2. Bardull is defiant, but takes no initiative. While Marshy/J and Seph/OS have been arguing over which lynch should take place, we've been providing alternatives and trades and doing so openly. Bardull has been nothing but defensive, abrasive, and opportunistic. As town or scum, he's a detriment.

3. Given that a lynch on Kary would result in absolutely no new information because Kary is, and always has been, a "meh" lynch coupled with the fact that we can make Kary be a vote slave whenever we want should make it obvious that Kary is a play but not the play.

4. More importantly, while Seph and I have been actively pursuing Bardull, Marshy/J have been actively protecting Bardull. There is a stark contrast in the approach the two pairs have made. Bardull's lynch would tell us much.

1. this isnt a reason for kary to live. we have enough sheep in this game (not necessarily a bad thing) and bardull has been shared a voting history similar to that of me/j (both players that seph believes to be protown)

2. none of this makes bardull likelier to be scum and is simply your own spin on the subject. bardull HAS taken initiative in his interactions with scumnike and kary and voting both of them. they are both REALISTIC lynches and on the chopping block. yes he hasnt been pushing as hard as me/j but who cares. doesnt make him likelier to be scum

3. we get pretty good information from this: his goddamn flip. a flip on someone that nearly no one would miss in this game. he also is on the "get lynched/vigged" list that seph and i agree on (except bardull) so he narrows that pool. being abrasive has nothing to do with alignment (well it depends on the player. bardull is newer so he doesnt have a solid "meta" yet so to say so he gets the benefit of the doubt here) cuz that can be chalked up to playstyle. i am abrasive regardless of alignment. so is kevin. so is cello. so is ryker. no reason to think bardull cant be different unless youre seriously going to clutch at 1 1/2 year old meta

4. who cares if weve been defending him? pretty much no one takes issue with me or j and if j is scum ill look at him later after the pool narrows. i can tell you that j isnt the type to whiteknight his scumbuddies tho. ive been his partner before

@ john

me and j are your townbros. vote kary

@ ronike

vote kary. btw dont nightkill me tonight please

@ sangfroid

you thought bardull was a poor play aye? vote kary

@ rajam

read what i said to sangfroid. vote kary

@ kary

vote kary

btw im gonna replace out and come back in as a hydra with frozen. chibo dying is good for town in this game regardless of his alignment. pming him now

 

[#HBC | marshy]

request replacement

 

[frozenmarsh751]

replace in

 

[#HBC | J]

I feel this game is about to take a turn for the more fun. ;P

 

[frozenmarsh751]

ho! that fusion dance took a lot out of me!

i did this simply so chibo can die. you had your chance os

 

[John2k4]

J give me something to mull over since sleep does not want to come.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

kawaainekochan? really john?

john vote kary please

j tell john to vote kary please

 

[#HBC | J]

Yes sir.

vote Kary, John.

Maybe third time is a charm.

 

[Inferno3044]

frozenmarsh751 replaces marshy effective immediately.

J (0)
SangfroidWarrior (0)
Rajam (0)
John2k4 (0)
Pierce7d (0)
Chibosempai (0)
BarDulL (4) Pierce, OS, Kary, Seph
Sephiroths Masamune (0)
Ronike (0)
adumbrodeus (1) Rajam
Kary (5) Sang, J, fmarsh, bardull, adum
Overswarm (0)
Frozenmarsh751 (0)

Not voting: Chibo, Ronike, John

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in under 48 hours!

Chibo has been prodded!

 

[frozenmarsh751]

@ inferno

kary is actually -2. adum is voting him as well

 

[John2k4]

kawaainekochan? really john?

john vote kary please

j tell john to vote kary please

It's not my doing.


If you L-1 Kary by tomorrow morning, I will hammer. Claim Kary.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

just vote him please. this day needs to end when hes a good play. letting him claim will just cause town to let him live wen hes gotta die. this WILL happen cuz of general ******* swftown just letting claims dictate conclusions when it should be play

vote him john. do it for your townbros me and j

 

[Pierce7d]

I really would like to see Bardull lynched today. If we take a step back for a second and analyze things, you can see that REGARDLESS of what Bardull flips, we gain a massive amount of data from his flip. If he actually flips scum, we potentially win the game.

 

[Pierce7d]

No other lynch provides half as much data as Bardull lynch does toDay, and consider it's day one, I think this makes it far and away the best lynch of the day.

 

[BarDulL]

Pierce, tell me where you would look on a BarDulL town flip and a BarDulL scum flip, and I may just start taking you seriously if you can provide a good answer.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

you get information regardless of anyones flip. specially when theyve been a focal point of d1. the point is to find scum and thats likelier in kary. is this really being used as an argument?

@ john/ronike/sangfroid/rajam

please just vote kary. this **** is just getting unbearable

 

[#HBC | Kary]

If you L-1 Kary by tomorrow morning, I will hammer. Claim Kary.

Sorry John, but no.
Claims are like 95% WIFOM, so I don't see how you'll better be able to tell my alignment from just me claiming. You already know I may have a role worth claiming, but if I out myself at this point then i'm just giving scum more info to work with. Yes, I could just claim VT, but look, there's the WIFOM; and there's a chance it could make problems for me later on.

So no claim from me, not now.

And no, this is not scare tactics. And no, you shouldn't clear me on this.

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you get information regardless of anyones flip. specially when theyve been a focal point of d1. the point is to find scum and thats likelier in kary. is this really being used as an argument?

Your 'argument' is literally just that I am more likely to be scum than Bardull; I really can't see where you've explained why.

Bardull keeps complaining that people are pushing him without a premise, without any evidence, but he's never complained that people are defending him without any evidence.

What the hell does that tell you about Bardull?

Just kill Bardull.

(see #602, #500,#380 etc.)

 

[frozenmarsh751]

1. Your 'argument' is literally just that I am more likely to be scum than Bardull; I really can't see where you've explained why.

2. Bardull keeps complaining that people are pushing him without a premise, without any evidence, but he's never complained that people are defending him without any evidence.

What the hell does that tell you about Bardull?

Just kill Bardull.

3. (see #602, #500,#380 etc.)

1. yeah it is

2. it tells me nothing. why is this scummy of him?

3. if any of this or what anyones said today convinced me idve pushed his wagon by now