Paper Mario Mafia: Day 4 finally ends! Luigi wins!

[Sephiroths Masamune]

EBWOP: if it weren't for the scummier players walking around :x

 

[#HBC | J]

I just re-read the game......

There is no case on Bardull.....what?

Seph, you have literally said nothing to the position of why Bardull should be lynched and when combated as to why you have him as scum you refer people to Kary's case on Bardull(who you believe is scum so even more "......" logic) and the case isn't even concrete and is mainly grasping for a point to call Bardull scum.

Mfw this game haha. I honestly thought there was gonna be more to the Bardull Scum thing but in reality there isn't at all. Seph said for me to read his posts and I have and found nothing but air mainly.

I have a couple of posts I want to go into a bit later but I'm gonna go relax a bit before I head out so may just get to it tomorrowish.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

yeah im DEF down to just kill everyone outside of a circle. i also have zero issue with sephs reads

towns gotta stick with it and not get demoralized cuz there WILL be misfires. push through that **** tho. good to know were getting somewhere

j what do you think?

iight offline for a few hours

 

[#HBC | marshy]

actually i do have issues with some reads. whatever tho weve got time to work something out

 

[#HBC | J]

For the majority part, no real problem with his reads. A few can be moved around but for a basic jist, not that bad.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

what would your ideal list be?

 

[Overswarm]

less talk more random vicious lynching

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Adumb, Kary and Bardull should all claim.

 

[Pierce7d]

Why don't we just split the days?

We have a three man voting block between myself, Seph, and Pierce. Seph's lynch choice is for toDay, and mine or Pierce is for tomorrow. If Pierce is fine with it, I'll go tomorrow and loan my vote choice to Marshy who can swing his subordinate J to whoever, giving us a 5 man swing.

Order shouldn't matter.

I'm cool with this.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

lynch without letting them claim seph. their claims will just allow them to talk their way out a lynch when town wants to identify each other and narrow the scope. claims just out power roles and let scum manipulate you. the only one town should be interested in this game is masons

 

[#HBC | J]

Towny - Seph, Marshy, Bardull, J, Overswarm
Still deciding - Sang, Adumb, Chibo, Pierce, John
Scummy - Rajam, Ronike, Kary

That's everyone iirc. Wouldn't mind losing anyone on still deciding for today.

Rearranged a few but I like this list. None are in order nor matter really 'cept my scum-reads.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

examples: x1 in crb mafia claimed cop and town almost let him live despite being obvscum

kevin claimed gunsmith and gave a gun to macman who he correctly thought was scum (lol...) and got mislynched for it. town was on its way to lynching scumacman a well

rockin claimed flavor cop and got to coast hardbody as scum under the pretext of "im flavor cop lol" which was lame

thats just from one game. seriously **** claims if we hit a power role in the quicklynch wagon whatever. just power through

 

[#HBC | marshy]

please give me something more concrete than that j. if you HAD to sort out those nulls gimme what youve gr. seph did it just fine

 

[#HBC | marshy]

what youve got*

 

[#HBC | marshy]

i mean list the nulls in order you want them around most. they can still be null idc

 

[#HBC | J]

Alright haha. I feel more comfy with Sang/Adumb leaning town.

Chibo/John are straight nulls and I dont have any grasp on them atm.

Pierce leans scummier over towny and its mainly a gut thing.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

so much for me going to sleep

i actually mean it this time. likin sephs list except that i think bardulls town. might just have to sacrifice that townread

j where is that kary case? it gives me slight pause that you neglected that as soon as me/seph/os suggested a plan that gives you a pass til like endgame

anyways ill post more in a few hours. cant believe im saying this but dont ****ing lynch anyone til me/seph can work something out

only downside to plans

1. seph is actually sk. town can worry about this later tho. btw seph you DID claim bulletproof earlier. ill look for it later

2. scum have a hitman who can kill through protections meaning seph would die. just a risk town has to take and well do it the old fashioned way if necessary

scum if you kill me/seph you have no balls and admit that yourerecinsider garbage at mafia forever. dont kill us please thanks

 

[#HBC | marshy]

i ****ing hate my phone ****ing up my posts

 

[Pierce7d]

Alright haha. I feel more comfy with Sang/Adumb leaning town.

Chibo/John are straight nulls and I dont have any grasp on them atm.

Pierce leans scummier over towny and its mainly a gut thing.

"Mainly a gut thing"

Is why I don't play this game Day 1. Whatever formulas you use to calculate who is scum and who is not on Day 1, I don't know. For that reason, I will continue to observe Day 1, and then start making reads when I have empirical data.

 

[#HBC | J]

Neglected? Dude, it's a long *** post haha and I'm too busy with things today to finish things up.

Relax, I gotchu man.

And since when was I part of a plan to live till endgame? o_O

 

[Pierce7d]

I will say this, I think that compromising the Bardull lynch isn't a bad idea, if such a large number of people have a town read on him.

Also, I don't think Seph claimed BP if I recall correctly. I think someone else suggested that Seph might be BP

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

1. seph is actually sk. town can worry about this later tho. btw seph you DID claim bulletproof earlier. ill look for it later

Then let it be known that that was a joke. I'm not asking for doc on me for nothing.

The biggest downside is if there is a scum roleblocker, but that is a risk I took from the get-go.

 

[#HBC | J]

I have a really strong reason to believe Seph isn't BP.

But that's for later.

 

[Pierce7d]

I do not think that Seph is Bulletproof at all. I also don't think that he claimed Bulletproof

 

[#HBC | J]

Pierce, talk with me.

So you are a guy that needs data in order to "fully" be able to play in your opinion? Like you need concrete things like NAs and kills before you line up your reads?

 

[Ronike]

J. Case on me. Now. Or at least, why don't you like me? Same to Rajam, though I don't see him around.

Bardull, you actually read and respond to the big post I did before on you, I will look at anyone you want me to and do a post by post case on them. Deal?

 

[#HBC | J]

I'll add it to the list of things to do, Ronike. ;P

-Case on Kary in more detail
-Case on why Bardull is town
-Case on why I find Ronike suspicious

 

[Pierce7d]

Pierce, talk with me.

So you are a guy that needs data in order to "fully" be able to play in your opinion? Like you need concrete things like NAs and kills before you line up your reads?

Sure =)

I haven't played Mafia in a very long time, and it's not like I had a particularly huge amount of experience from when I did play. That being said, I'm not going to try to go toe to toe with a pool of players more experienced than me. If I start trying to make reads, and I make a poor one, I'm going to distract town, instead of letting the GOOD town players just make better reads. For the moment, it's better for me to just support town and not get in the way.

When I can flips and have Night Analysis to work off of, I can just use my brain, instead of going with my undeveloped get feelings. Day 1, I coast through, but collect data and then I'll my normal super townie self for the rest of the game.

 

[Overswarm]

lynch without letting them claim seph. their claims will just allow them to talk their way out a lynch when town wants to identify each other and narrow the scope. claims just out power roles and let scum manipulate you. the only one town should be interested in this game is masons

I've often been curious about the consequences of D1 claims. The most common way town have "gotten" mafia have been from town claiming, but simultaneously the most common way mafia have gotten out of being lynched is by claiming.

 

[#HBC | J]

Hmmm....

Bump Pierce up to San/Adumb level for toDay's sake. I'm willing to wait till toMorrow before acquiring more concrete things on his slot but I do like his answer to my question because it rings genuine.

 

[Inferno3044]

J (0)
SangfroidWarrior (0)
Rajam (0)
John2k4 (0)
Pierce7d (1)
Chibosempai (0)
BarDulL (6) John, Ronike, Pierce, OS, Kary, Seph
Sephiroths Masamune (0)
Ronike (3) Rajam, Adum, bardull
adumbrodeus (0)
Kary (3) Sang, J, marshy
Overswarm (0)
marshy (0)

Not voting: Chibo

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I'll add it to the list of things to do, Ronike. ;P

-Case on Kary in more detail
-Case on why Bardull is town
-Case on why I find Ronike suspicious

Don't see how nr 1 and 3 are relevant to today. Stick to BardullTown.

 

[Overswarm]

Oh pierce, how I <3 your approach



that said, it's also my favorite approach when I'm mafia because it's the second easiest to control. The first easiest being "those who agree with me are town and those not scum", but they aren't that different.

Just keep some of those cards close to your chest.



@MOD REQUEST VOTECOUNT

If we don't get something resolved soon, I think me and marshy are going to have a cat off to determine who picks the lynch.

 

[Pierce7d]

OS, I considered that, but I also considered that if our skilled townie players aren't good enough to circumvent that, then it's very unlikely that I'm going to be the one to out all the scum anyways.

 

[Pierce7d]

If we lose the game because I was a sheep for one day, then we were gonna lose anyway.

 

[Inferno3044]

J (0)
SangfroidWarrior (0)
Rajam (0)
John2k4 (0)
Pierce7d (1)
Chibosempai (0)
BarDulL (6) John, Ronike, Pierce, OS, Kary, Seph
Sephiroths Masamune (0)
Ronike (3) Rajam, Adum, bardull
adumbrodeus (0)
Kary (3) Sang, J, marshy
Overswarm (0)
marshy (0)

Not voting: Chibo,

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

someone ****ing unvote bardull. goddamn

 

[Overswarm]

someone ****ing unvote bardull. goddamn

Worst case scenario: someone quick hammers Bardull. We lynch them. Yaaay.

Best case scenario: someone hammers Bardull later. Yaaay.

In other words:

 

[#HBC | marshy]

lol os

@ j

hurry please. keeping town active plus having momentum is good. **** your other games. if theres something youve gotta sacrifice in order to make that post faster then go head and skip the ronike case. i dont even know why he wants you to make one

 

[#HBC | marshy]

oh thats right hes scum

heres a fun fill in the blank game for j and sephiroth. it takes 2 seconds to beat

d1 lynch:
n1 vig:
d2 lynch:
n2 vig:
d3 lynch:
n3 vig: