OS All-Stars: Game over! TOWN WINS!

[Make it Rain!]

inb4 we get jumped on for not using our ability a night

 

[Make it Rain!]

sorry just had to do that
it'd make me mad tho

ugh

oh about that big post, it's still in the making.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

by incriminating i meant the laundry half calling out ruy on his role being scummy by nature in his own words

as for it being a full pr role game sure. but like...dfalcon was town. we all know for a ****ing 100% fact that he redirected ruy to someone other than whoever the **** was killed the night dfalcon claimed that ****. this isnt just some **** to be swept under the rug or say "meh **** claims" (man...this must be bizarre coming from me) its blatantly obvious that someone is killin *****es and his name isnt ruy yet you apparently consider him a priority

 

[frozenmarsh751]

inb4 we get jumped on for not using our ability a night

meh. dont find it scummy. the game was slowing down and i can easily see someone neglecting to use their role

 

[frozenmarsh751]

what did you guys get when targeting jtb?

 

[frozenmarsh751]

oh already claimed roleblocked iight iight np np ez pz gg wp

 

[JTB]

Again, scum is not going to let themselves get killed by Inferno or Krys at this point, they will simply go, "Not doing it" just like many townies will do right now. Plus I'm not gonna assume 4 scum only, I'll assume the worst, I highly doubt 6 mafia.

Vote: Make it Rain!

We go this way.

Save him for tomorrow so he can get more results for us. If captain kirk is a double voter too, then el zv/you might have extra abilities you havent told us yet. Even if he's Indy, we can use his results if krys doesn't flip scum

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

If Krys is town he will kill however hammers him and we end up potientially losing the game.

 

[Krystedez]

That's why I said that I will hammer myself, I'd rather not take out a townie.

But atm I'm more concerned on why we are not getting anywhere, when a few things have been claimed already.

I'd prefer just lynching MiR or fro toDay. I have the rest as town reads or iffy.

 

[JTB]

Where does your fro marsh scum read come from?

 

[Make it Rain!]

Save him for tomorrow so he can get more results for us. If captain kirk is a double voter too, then el zv/you might have extra abilities you havent told us yet. Even if he's Indy, we can use his results if krys doesn't flip scum

Actually, let's talk about this, since nobody seems to be asking themselves this:

If we're mafia, you damn well better be able to explain how and why that was a double bus d1 and why I went after it so damn strongly, especially with how I went about getting Drew's lynch. I don't care if you think I'm inconsistent in my readslist. I'm frustrated and confused in that regard. But you damn well better have a good reason for that and actual ****ing justification for it, not just "LOL IT WAS A BUS."

As for indy, HOW DOES OUR ROLE MAKE SENSE?! The only investigative indy OS used was Delita and all that had was a nerfed track/watch. The rest have had a one-shot investigate if they've had one at all. We're OBVIOUSLY not the former and us targeting JTB last night proves we're not the latter. If you wanna call us indy, fine, BUT EXPLAIN OUR ROLE IN THE PROCESS. None of you are doing that.

Say you don't care about my role, I ****ing dare you to be a hypocrite.

 

[Make it Rain!]

by incriminating i meant the laundry half calling out ruy on his role being scummy by nature in his own words

as for it being a full pr role game sure. but like...dfalcon was town. we all know for a ****ing 100% fact that he redirected ruy to someone other than whoever the **** was killed the night dfalcon claimed that ****. this isnt just some **** to be swept under the rug or say "meh **** claims" (man...this must be bizarre coming from me) its blatantly obvious that someone is killin *****es and his name isnt ruy yet you apparently consider him a priority

@Bolded: YES IT REALLY ****ING IS.

I find him scum. I find his play absolute *** and that I'm not okay with his role. The only thing that's holding me back from flat-out lynching him right the **** now is that ****ing no kill redirect.

 

[Make it Rain!]

hydra quote

you realize i have no absolute care for flavor crumbs when safeclaims were provided out the ***, right?

 

[JTB]

You have to be kidding me toed, this game has roles with changed alignments, just because delita is the only Indy investigative in his past games doesn't mean a damn thing with Indy kefka now mafia, Mafia blue mage guy now town, and others I'm probably forgetting.

And no one is pushing you as Mafia, the only chance for you to be mafia was that of a different faction, which is very unlikely with three mafia flips of the same faction

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Were they?

OS in super heroes flipped them all as the same color and refused to specify when asked if they were seperate factions.

 

[JTB]

Wait, he did? I just looked at the role pm's, not the flips.themselves and the pm's were different shades of red

 

[Inferno3044]

There are not 2 mafia factions. There have been 2 kills each night except this past night: mafia's and my own. Plus this night when I didn't kill there was only one kill.

 

[Make it Rain!]

You have to be kidding me toed, this game has roles with changed alignments, just because delita is the only Indy investigative in his past games doesn't mean a damn thing with Indy kefka now mafia, Mafia blue mage guy now town, and others I'm probably forgetting.

And no one is pushing you as Mafia, the only chance for you to be mafia was that of a different faction, which is very unlikely with three mafia flips of the same faction

You're missing the point.

The point is that our role simply does not work as an indy role. Not in this game's context and especially not considering mod meta, even if relatively insignificant.
Understand what I'm saying?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Wait, he did? I just looked at the role pm's, not the flips.themselves and the pm's were different shades of red

flips were the same shade if i recall, check X1's death when D2 opens and Circus's flip in that game.

Inferno it is if Nabe wasn't lying about his faction being killed off though i take that with a grain of salt.

Though I'm gonna delve into single faction thoughts for my last hour of work.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

ok seriously for a quality of life thing I just want to compile all the claims in one post for quick and easy reference. please help me fill in the blanks, provide additional powers I may have missed to complete the claim list, and/or correct my mistakes (this is frozen btw)

FroMar: Kirk - Double Voter, 1-Shot lynch narrower

RR: (Flavour?) neighborizer that does not confirm alignment

MiR: Onslaught -Rolecop (do you learn powers or role names?)

Inferno: Wolverine - Vig that can only kill hammer voter or people voting him

ElZv: Deadpool - Also a neighborizer (I assume doesn't confirm alignment?), can also talk in thread during night phase

JTB: ???

Kryst: Crono - Anti-Kill townie (kills anyone who hammers him or NKs him)

Also, what do peopel seriously think about our proposed plan to create a 3 player endgame that protects us if there are two anti-town left?

Basically what I think we ought to do is lynch Krys and force ElZv or JTB to hammer. Whoever doesn't hammer votes infern.

If Kryst is lying and isnt actually what he says, fun times and we nail a scum and the cross counter kill probs doesnt happen. Hopefully at that point we win, but if not, infern still mercs the other person.

If Kryst is legit then we hope his hammerer or ATLEAST the person we have infern being voted for by is scum. I'd be ****ing suprised as **** if there isn't scum between those three (Zv, JTB, Kryst).

If none of them are we're kinda ****ed, but I seriously, seriously doubt that. In fact, the more and more ElZv lurks the more and more convinced I become that hes bad.

In any event, that gives us an endgame of Fromar, MiR, Infer, RR minus one of us due to the NK (could be any of us if infern is legit and we have a scummy bad guy, infern MUST survive if hes the last bad guy obvs).

If MiR is scum we've been straight up outplayed. I'm willing to play on that. Basically MiR or us, whichever of us survives, nails the last scummy FTW.

Thoughts? I think its a pretty solid gamplan.

 

[Krystedez]

When did ZV say he was a neighborizer again?

@JTB reconfirm your role/alignment bro


JTB is the only variable that concerns me, along with a well-played Inferno game if Inf is scum but still easy to get rid of if he is. Basically, don't kill anyone Inferno. Even better, is Inferno's ability to kill a person on his wagon or the hammerer of the day a day ability, or a NK? or just a targetable ability in general? If it's an NK, I can appear on his wagon.

I liked MiR's early play a lot, but then his play as of late has made me uncomfortable, but at the same would make sense if he was Indy.

Fro I didn't like your general play most game. So that's why I'm iffy on your plan atm. I don't feel comfortable nailing JTB as THE variable atm to go atm. I do agree with letting ZV hammer me if it comes to that.

I'm still waiting for something to occur as well, especially given all on the table. We got time.

 

[JTB]

I'm Frog, Town hero. Night Actions don't have any effect on me (but I can still be targeted).

I'll post more later

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

My flavor is the Scarecrow from Batman.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also That plan would work if everyone cooperated, but I seriously doubt scum or stubborn town would go with it.

 

[Make it Rain!]

I'm down for that plan if FroMar hammers. I don't want a doublevoter in a lylo situation in the first place, what makes you think I want one of my town reads to hammer him on top of that?

JTB, would Kryst's action fail on you?

 

[Make it Rain!]

EBWOP: I can't read.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Looky here: no one should be pushing for Inferno to shoot or lynch Kryst and because of the nature of Kryst's role, I don't want to take the ****ing risk. It's why I don't think he's a priority. If he lasts until 2-1, fine, LYNCH HIM THERE. Not before.

****ING LISTEN TO ME THIS TIME. This is completely regardless of reads and purely based on shots. Today could be LyLo. Tomorrow will probably be LyLo. Right now, we cannot waste our time on shots that could backfire in our faces.

So let's get this straight:

WE ARE NOT SHOOTING KRYST
INFERNO IS NOT SHOOTING TONIGHT

If you wanted to lynch Kryst, you should've done it earlier.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Here, look at the math:

If Kryst is town, we go into the N5 with 5 people left. The next day would be MyLo. If there's an indy (which is still a good possibility), town's lost. If there's two mafia left (also a decent chance), town's lost.

You're gambling on Kryst being scum. It's too high of a risk with not nearly enough of a reward. You take him to 2-1 (which if we lynch once per day and Inferno doesn't shoot again we'll hit no prob), the risk is severely minimized. You can't factor in his play, it's sporadic and nonsensical and easily the biggest WIFOM sink of the game. Ergo, you're flipping a coin and hoping that he flips scum in a situation where we can't afford to take the risk.

But I don't think he will. This is the absolute perfect direction for scum to go right now. It's actually causing me to go into the 1 maf/1 indy route that I originally thought because of that direction. Town gains absolutely nothing from lynching those slots unless they're correct. Scum won't hammer Kryst. Kryst will take someone with him. Inferno effectively cannot shoot another scum because the hammer vote died and no scum will vote him. WAKE THE **** UP PEOPLE MARSHY HAS PULLED THE WOOL OVER YOUR EYES.

Ruy, if you're town, stop busting my balls and work with me. I can't be fighting with you and I seriously cannot have you being an antagonistic douche. You make me not want to play this game at all. You have a potential clear on you, ACT LIKE IT MEANS SOMETHING.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Dropping a wall tomorrow. ****'s gonna get real, gangnam style.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Since someone will stupidly ask:

Check the math on top of it. If there's one mafia left (FroMar in this situation), he wants that shot so he can get the NK without a chance of getting shot and then will walk in and doublevote whomever tomorrow. He's phrased it in a way where everyone believes him (HI JTB AND RUY) and comes off as a townie voice but it's not at all a good direction to go. He can walk into LyLo, say this person's scum, and then doublevote.

gg ****ers.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Shut the hell up Rain.

calling me a douche is just making me more care less about reading you and just wanting to lynch you without care.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

MiR you are paranoid as **** holy **** its making my eyes bleed.

My plan isn't even a ****ing power play its literally mathematical protection against the possibility of 2 remaining scum holy **** calm your ****ing beard.

And when did I ever say we were going to ****ing shoot Krys you are seriously going full aspergers level ******** right now. Chill the **** out.

I cant beleive you have the ****ing gall to say Marshy as I are scum playing you all when we've done basically all the same ****ing **** you have this game in terms of killing scum yet you still don't trust us. We've had you as a townread all game for this very reason despite how ****ing erratic you've been. Marshy even asked me specifically if I was developing reservations about you guys because of how ****ing off the wall you've been and I told him that your paper trail just screams town and I bet you (MiR) are just being paranoid as **** and freaking out because we haven't won yet and you feel like you're being mega duped.

If we townies cant ****ing work together to win this we're going to eat each other alive and ****ign blow it just like town did ALLLLLL the way back in Newbie 3 when we literally had a perfect game going and blew it and let a coasting Mister Eric win as the last scum despite the fact that he did NOTHING all game.

I'm getting serious vibes from ElZv that remind me of Mister Eric from that game I **** you not.

I'll rewrite the 3 man Lylo plan again for you more clearly tomorrow when I have more time.

@ JTB: Are you immune to ALL night actions, EVEN lethal ones?

 

[frozenmarsh751]

there is NOT a decent chance of there being 5 mafia left stfu toad. so desperate to not clear ruy holy ****

anyways frozen is a g and we should all listen to him

jtb if we went with your plan to lynch krys who would you have hammer? you never specified that

 

[frozenmarsh751]

also i would prefer to lose to toad/inferno/ruy than ****ing

el zv = HERP play d1 iight peace forever guys

krys = HERP im crono iight peace guys

jtb = well okay hes actually kind of okay but eh poe and all that

plus this game is dragging and who the **** feels like playing 2-3 more dayphases? i sure ****ing dont. also this plan allows a lot of people to die en masse which is pretty badass

what DOES concern me is why a scumelzv would kill bardull n1 and then use his ability on him when he could use it on someone else to manipulate them? but good god **** that slot forreal

 

[Overswarm]

Krys (1) - JTB,
Make it Rain! (1) - Red Ryu,

Make It Rain!, Krystedez, El Zv, Frozenmarsh751, Inferno3044,

WIth 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!
Deadline is Friday, August 3rd, 3:00 p.m. EST

 

[frozenmarsh751]

whoa we have like a week til deadline much more than i thought

Hero- You cannot be the target of Night Actions (good or bad). Any ability targetted on you will fail. You will not be notified.

^ frogs flavah. sounds like krys killing him wouldnt work

toad if you guys were to agree with our plan who would hammah drop krys and who would vote inferno?

also frozen know whats kind of amusing? i was having second doubts about toad and then i stopped myself and asked "would laundry/xonar EVER agree to killing bardull n1?"

the answer was obvious. i dont think they are more town than ruy or inferno however

if town ****ies out of the plan then ima vote jtb and endorse a zv hammah. i agreed with toads initial lynchpool today

 

[Krystedez]

Looking at some previous posts and rereading, I'm confident in my stance here.

collection of DH posts

Spoiler

DH states a shallow scum read on Krys and never follows up on it

Pushes ZV. I believe one of Hep/Meadow did too, looks like they were trying to set up a mislynch

Little push on Inferno, but is irrelevant since Inferno was playing to get votes in the first place

Not sure about the switch to Ran though, came straight out of the blue. Looks more like he was trying to just get his vote off Hep rather than trying to lynch Ran

*looks at alive player-list*

1. Xonar/Laundry (Make It Rain!)
3. Raziek
6. Bubbly Masquerain (Joey/John)
7. Red Ryu
8. Mr. Lynch
9. Krystedez
10. JTB
11. Inferno3044
12. DiamondFalcon
14. KevinM
15. El Zv
17. Frozenflame751/Marshy

I know we're supposed to be clearing Krys here but really his claim isn't **** anymore tbh and I wouldn't mind seeing him go
DiamondFalcon's earlier posts were townie but not that great, just townie enough for him not to be prirority.
Raziek's frustration towards marshy seemed genuine, and I understood his disposition completely.
I don't even remember why Ryu did

krys/marsh/ryu

and we should be aces, unless this lynch ends the game already

for last minute i'd look at JTB a bit more but not right now at least

Everyone.

Vote me. And let your choice of Fro/JTB hammer me.

Let one of those two that didn't hammer me vote for Inferno so they can GTFO.

I'm up for ending this game rather than going a million day phases.

MiR looks extremely town all game and still does at the moment of my reread.

RR/ZV/Me/MiR Town. Let's finish this.

PREPOST EDIT:

If you guys actually fully believe that I'm town then go right for a lynch on Fro or JTB. I don't think ZV is scum by any means after all these interactions, nor RR.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

good gorf this is ****ing awful guys. ima be so salty if el zv wins this **** by doing nothing. can we at least like kill him by hammering or voting inferno or some ****? safety net allows it

 

[frozenmarsh751]

you realize i have no absolute care for flavor crumbs when safeclaims were provided out the ***, right?

who cares? was for completions sake

jtb can you link me that earlier post about toad being indy?

 

[Inferno3044]

I'm fine with lynching ZV today. I don't understand why we have to get rid of 4 people (krys/whoever hammers him/NK/my kill on whoever votes me). I'd rather lynch ZV and see his flip.