Neb
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Sheesh, you sure do love you some Snake.
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Okay, U-air stalling officially deserves its own topic.
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I guess the chart says so, but I highly doubt it since DK doesn't have grenades and his recovery is still bad. He's also a huge target, which sucks since MK is good at comboing.
And -NaPPy if you really want to argue about Snake, you can go IM Teh Spammerer since his AIM is in the opening post, and you can go read this post too
since the BR pretty much agrees Snake has trouble vs other campers.
Now the only thing I'm wondering is if diminishing returns actually affects the wind part of the U-air to any degree.
ShadowDigo
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I just love the Uair, and it works wonders on team battles, where you can save your friend from the death by pushing him upwards.
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Go do that. I don't want to derail topics too much at this point. =P
Well teh_spamerer was a NJ (I think) professional back in Melee days... if that means anything. He doesn't really like Brawl but plays it anyway for the tourney rewards.
I happen to know about him since I've been around him at an FE community, but dunno about you.
JLynn943
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nice find on the refresher
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But the Back Room doesn't agree with you. =O
omegablackmage
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oh yeah btw, say your playing against a toon link and they are recovering to the stage. Make it seems like your going to try and go off and hit them, which may prompt them to use their up b early, in which case you grab the edge (to avoid getting hit). Then when they are floating back down to the stage, hop an up air to give you more time to set up for a smash, or maybe annoy them enough to push them to the edge to edgehog.
yeah and you know this because you have access back there.
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READ YOUR FORUM'S WEEKLY DISCUSSION.
Seriously. This is how they summed up Snake. And you're going to say Overswarm and the people before him are wrong?
http://smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=4381310&postcount=46
Where have you been the past 9 weeks?
Seriously. This is how they summed up Snake. And you're going to say Overswarm and the people before him are wrong?
http://smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=4381310&postcount=46Where have you been the past 9 weeks?
Dizzynecro
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Ahahahahaha.
Uair is the best air move ever.
Uair is the best air move ever.
*sigh* I dont read that. Ugh I'll read it and then come back with a NEW opinon.READ YOUR FORUM'S WEEKLY DISCUSSION.
Seriously. This is how they summed up Snake. And you're going to say Overswarm and the people before him are wrong?
Where have you been the past 9 weeks?
Speedsk8er
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^_^ GaW is so GAY.
Souleater666
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My friends love to spam dair with Toon Link but I love using this attack to counter it. None of my friends pick Toon Link anymore if they see I'm using G&W. This is also great against lightweights like Kirby. I KO'd him up once at 0% with just the air when he jumped.
Mr. Game and Penguin
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Speedsk8er, why the heck is he- oh, yeah, the greenhouse makes it look like he's *******, but still. Anyway, how the mutha@&%# do you get around metaknight?!?!?!?!? I hate his freakin' balls and he sounds like he took all the steroids in the world and dropped his balls 9inches whenever he talks in that unbelievably low bass tone. Gosh, screw the little *** with the mach speed-swor-
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I'm sorry guys. I'm sorry to the meta fans out there, but omfg, G&W vs. Metaknight is like crazy.........................and is total hell for the G&W..............
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I'm sorry guys. I'm sorry to the meta fans out there, but omfg, G&W vs. Metaknight is like crazy.........................and is total hell for the G&W..............
wazgood
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Using UpA in the Air as an Effective Move
It stalls nicely if timed properly, and I'm wondering why no one uses this trick. I think it would be fairly effective as a damage builder for your other moves, especially if you short hop out of and up a next your opponent.
It stalls nicely if timed properly, and I'm wondering why no one uses this trick. I think it would be fairly effective as a damage builder for your other moves, especially if you short hop out of and up a next your opponent.
Neb
Smash Lord
Yeah, I've incorporated SH uair into my game, it has little lag after its animation so it combo's nicely out of moves. Plus, if you use if right--say you u-tilt a bit, then SH uair, you can place your foe in front of you in a short hover animation just a tad above the ground, perfect for punishment.
wazgood
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lol i was actually just parodying mattdotzeb's posts all around the character specific forums but ok
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Hella.
I use it to screw with Lucas'/Ness' PK thundah. >=D
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Wow, this is amazing.
I didn't know it refreshes. Thanks for the tip.
I didn't know it refreshes. Thanks for the tip.
ppl didn't know this? wow
btw, my best time with this was killing a folcon who side Bed, got confused, and continued DIing sideways a *bit* too far to autograb the ledge
EDIT: I learned the refresh part when playing someone's d-air happy DK, and actually managed to kill with the f-air after juggling for awhile.
G&W is so nice ^_^
btw, my best time with this was killing a folcon who side Bed, got confused, and continued DIing sideways a *bit* too far to autograb the ledge
EDIT: I learned the refresh part when playing someone's d-air happy DK, and actually managed to kill with the f-air after juggling for awhile.
G&W is so nice ^_^
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Yeah I know, all of the G&W guides just say U-air stalling is for teh mindgames.
Actually it's for CAMPING. IMO this gives G&W one of the best camping strategies in the game, since if it's done right it really can't be punished.
Actually it's for CAMPING. IMO this gives G&W one of the best camping strategies in the game, since if it's done right it really can't be punished.
I've given up on this match up. I just pick snake usually or another character that can beat him.
I have a ?. Does the actual uair move ever stale? Does it stale if spammed to where it cant refresh anymore? Or does it stale its abilitie to refresh your moves...
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How to explain, well when you refresh other attacks with one attack, you can do this until all your other attacks are refreshed no? Each hit of an attack counts equally towards diminishing returns y'know.
I highly doubt super armor would be able to go through U-air stalling honestly. Even autofastfall D-airs get stopped by G&W's U-air.
I highly doubt super armor would be able to go through U-air stalling honestly. Even autofastfall D-airs get stopped by G&W's U-air.
cutter
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SA won't go through Uair. Only invinciblity can. Besides, Marth/Ike's counters won't do anything as well.
Kaizo
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wow this is amaz......wait I've already EEEEEFing known this for months, why are you guys just posting about this now? The only thing that is particularly new to me is that it has its own move degradation which doesn't affect the upward thrust, but does restore other degraded moves.
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I didn't know that spam actually talked to people on the boards. (He and I are in the same crew)
slikvik
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o snap, ELs purple
JrdnS
Smash Ace
i was wondering why my attacks never seem to stale. haha.
now im wondering is uair better than bair.
is he blowing a trumpet or using his lips?
now im wondering is uair better than bair.
is he blowing a trumpet or using his lips?
JrdnS
Smash Ace
yes i know is bair is a turtle. i was talking about his uair.
well thats just a puff of air from his lips
its from one of his G&W games (look it up on Yuotube)
JrdnS
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haha ok just wondering.
Neb
Smash Lord
Could someone answer me this? How does uair actually refresh, do you have to hit with the hitbox, or just the air, I'm still a bit confused about its initiation.
cutter
Smash Champion
Blowing with the air is technically stall. The actual attacks is well... an attack. Maybe I didn't understand your question quite completely Neb.
It would be cool if someone would undertake a guide for Uair. All these miniguides we're doing are actually really helpful.
It would be cool if someone would undertake a guide for Uair. All these miniguides we're doing are actually really helpful.
Neb
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Nvm, I answered my own question.
10stupidpoints
*secretly working on guide*
10stupidpoints
*secretly working on guide*