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Official Utah Power Rankings

Junpappy

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We're kind of undecided at the moment on whether we should update the power rankings or not. How many people want it updated?
 

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An idea for updating it could be with like kohm and stuff you could put him on until the next tournament and if he goes and does well he could stay otherwise he could just be taken off.
 

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lol same here :)

Just so you know: placing high in one tourny will probably not land you in the Power Rankings.

And it's questionable to add Khom, not because of his skill (he has plenty of that) but because he doesn't attend that many tournies (especially now that Phil won't be going to the tournies). Phil attending the last tourny was a VERY rare occurance. And besides that, Khom doesn't always come when Phil does, so he comes even less often than Phil. And if Phil was taken off the rankings due to him semi-retiring and saying that he won't be coming to tournies most of the time, then adding Khom would go completely against that.
 

Ken Neth

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I'm up for updating the rankings, though i doubt I'll be on them. It's cool to see who the updated top ten are and it gives me motivation to step up my game if I know it's going to be updated more frequently.
 

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It says somewhere on the first page that you have to have attended two tournaments to be considered active so the guys from springville wont be considered for this update either way. I'm reluctant to add Khom to the list just because of how rarely he comes to tournaments, and the fact that the power rankings are supposed to show the skill levels of ACTIVE Utah smashers.
 

Xsyven

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I fear the life of my #9. :(

Did bad last month, missed this month, missing next month....
 

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Just so you know: placing high in one tourny will probably not land you in the Power Rankings.

And it's questionable to add Khom, not because of his skill (he has plenty of that) but because he doesn't attend that many tournies (especially now that Phil won't be going to the tournies). Phil attending the last tourny was a VERY rare occurance. And besides that, Khom doesn't always come when Phil does, so he comes even less often than Phil. And if Phil was taken off the rankings due to him semi-retiring and saying that he won't be coming to tournies most of the time, then adding Khom would go completely against that.
yeah i know! lol im just saying i want to see how everybody changes lol
 

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It says somewhere on the first page that you have to have attended two tournaments to be considered active so the guys from springville wont be considered for this update either way. I'm reluctant to add Khom to the list just because of how rarely he comes to tournaments, and the fact that the power rankings are supposed to show the skill levels of ACTIVE Utah smashers.
lol calm down:psycho:
 

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"Looks at devins placing on the rankings and goes HUH?!?!"
Devin also did pretty well in the tournies in St. George while we were there (or at least for the OC3 one...don't know about EVO World's). Although that tourny wasn't really official, it was a tourny going with our rules (not crappy game store rules). Plus, he also has attended other ones up here in the past. And the tourny up here that he did do well in, he did EXTRAORDINARILY well (but you shouldn't need me to recap on that, should I...).

And Dai-A, I'll say the same thing to you that I said to your brother Xtinction in THIS POST: You can quote multiple people/times within the same post, so you don't have to double post every time you need to quote more than one thing.
 

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Dai-A has ONLY been to one tournament; you must have ATTENDED two tournaments to be considered.
 

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Did you even read that post of mine, Gojira. Like CREA said, Devin's been to more than one tourny (so he's eligible). And for the "unofficial" tourny, it was still using Utah's ruleset (not lame ones like what game stores would have), so it's a good sourse to base the skill level of such players, on (that's why I mentioned it). He did good in only one "official" tourny, true, but he did much better in that tourny than say, what Dai-A did in one tourny (the only person he lost to was me, and then he also came back the second time to beat me, and also beat CREA in TWO Best-of-Five sets to take it).

Maybe you're just mad that he's above you on the Power Rankings... :p
 

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Hahaha I actually don't care if I move down on the power rankings (unlike some people) because I'm sure it would just motivate me to try harder at the next one. After that last tournament, I wouldn't place myself higher than 6th on an updated list.
 

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Did you even read that post of mine, Gojira. Like CREA said, Devin's been to more than one tourny (so he's eligible). And for the "unofficial" tourny, it was still using Utah's ruleset (not lame ones like what game stores would have), so it's a good sourse to base the skill level of such players, on (that's why I mentioned it). He did good in only one "official" tourny, true, but he did much better in that tourny than say, what Dai-A did in one tourny (the only person he lost to was me, and then he also came back the second time to beat me, and also beat CREA in TWO Best-of-Five sets to take it).

Maybe you're just mad that he's above you on the Power Rankings... :p

I dont really care about the rankings anymore with brawl on the horizon to be honest. In fact, saying im mad because he is above me is stupid when im defending Dai-A and NOT myself.

So, lets use the evo tourney then where i beat devin then C!Z. it was still using Utah's ruleset (not lame ones like what game stores would have), so it's a good sourse to base the skill level of such players, on Also, im not johning for other people but, FTS did nto give a poop for that OC3 tourney where devin beat him. FTS didnt even try vs anyone. If you thought he was trying get a new Brain he didnt care anything for the tourney because it didnt matter at all. Just like the one where i beat Devin and C!Z doesnt matter at all.

Dai-A came out of nowhere and placed well. To do so he whomped junpei, I know, I watched. How can you ignore something like that, even if this is his first tourney?


And junpei, to say you wouldnt place yourself higher than 6th after the last tourney is freaking retarted.........you are not 6th spot material, you are 3rd/2nd
 

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Well, Devin and C!Z didn't care for the EVO World tourny. Devin said that he tried on the OC3 so he can get on the Power Rankings, but didn't care for the EVO one. I convinced Devin to try on the SoP6 so he can move up, so he actually did try. And last I heard, C!Z (not caring for the EVO one), used Fox against you.
But despite that, the above is still a "John" to why those three lost, no matter how you look at it (I think we've had this discussion before with the fellow Colorado players).

And I don't really care for Melee as of now, myself. It's really just something to keep me busy, and to help the wait for Brawl less unbearable. But despite that, if we are still doing the Power Rankings, then those that have the power to manage it should care for the rankings itself. It wouldn't be fair to the others who do care, if you, the one that has the power to edit the first post, to just sit idly by and not giving a hoot.
 

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Well, Devin and C!Z didn't care for the EVO World tourny. Devin said that he tried on the OC3 so he can get on the Power Rankings, but didn't care for the EVO one. I convinced Devin to try on the SoP6 so he can move up, so he actually did try. And last I heard, C!Z (not caring for the EVO one), used Fox against you.
But despite that, the above is still a "John" to why those three lost, no matter how you look at it (I think we've had this discussion before with the fellow Colorado players).

And I don't really care for Melee as of now, myself. It's really just something to keep me busy, and to help the wait for Brawl less unbearable.
FTS didnt try at either the Pre-OC3 tourney NOR the Pre-Evo tourney PC. They were free entry and just for fun, for "practice". I am not johning for FTS that is a FACT. If you watched him vs devin and said "ZOMG DEVIN IS DOING SOOO GOOD" when nate was using the tourney for tech pactice and not aiming to win, go ahead believe that. Before the tourney EVEN started FTS asked me "This is stupid, why dont we just play friendlies using OC3 rules?" I also know he was not trying because when i got to playhim, he barley beat my bowser at FD when in ANY other case he would 3-4 stocked me. He was just doing double shines and lasers the whole tourney.

You cannot use EVO or OC3 Pre-tourneys. They do NOT count at all. We were not playing for anything, we where just Practicing OC3 rules. BTW, at the OC3 tourney, we did not use "UTAH" rules, we used OC3 rules, so saying "oh we used utah ruels so uh yeah" no we didnt.
 

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Fine...it's a "fact" that FTS didn't care then. But it can also be a "fact" that Devin and C!Z didn't care for the pre-EVO one. Just because things are "facts" doesn't make them not Johns. It's a fact that I got 3 hours of sleep before SoP 6, but it'll still be a John when I say that that was my reason for me losing.

And you can't use the reasoning that it was OC3 rules and not Utah rules, since SoP 4 used OC3 rules, too. In fact, I (along with others) find that "Utah's rules" is in favor of the "hosts" since it's the "hosts" that gets to decide on the rules and have final say in everything.


PS: And on a side note, I was pushing for an entry fee for the pre-OC3 tourny.
 

billythegoat

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I feel that Dai-a deserves to be on the power rankings. We have all seen him play and I think it is at calibur of top 10
 

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Umm nobody tried in the pre Evo world tourney. Gojira I beat you the first two games in Sheik dittos and then switched over to Fox just to get practice and I think I even used Falco in one game. I didn't care if I wanted that win I could've just played Sheik the 3rd time and 3-0'd you. That tourney should not even be mentioned, it wasn't even a tourney. Nate didn't wanna play after a game or two and I don't even think I counterpicked a stage against you.
 

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so yea, dai-a aka david and khom will be on the power ranking list assuming they do well in the next tournament.
how the heck pnt kids get so good? it must be the bread shop next door.

if i win the 4 corner tournament, i should be on the rankings yes?....good, its a done deal.
 

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Umm nobody tried in the pre Evo world tourney. Gojira I beat you the first two games in Sheik dittos and then switched over to Fox just to get practice and I think I even used Falco in one game. I didn't care if I wanted that win I could've just played Sheik the 3rd time and 3-0'd you. That tourney should not even be mentioned, it wasn't even a tourney. Nate didn't wanna play after a game or two and I don't even think I counterpicked a stage against you.

C!Z! lol why is jumpei so pissy??
 

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Gojira, they know Dai-A did good. He's only been to 1 official Utah tournament, though.

You have to go to two to be considered for the rankings. It doesn't matter if he placed 1st, or not-- he needs to go to two.

Devin's been to 3 or 4, plus the random times you've fought him down here. We've fought him enough to know he deserves to be on rankings.

Dai-A. go to more tournaments. If you do good again, you'll be on the rankings. If for some reason you got high as a fluke, you'll be low on the ranks-- like me.




Gojira, there's a difference between how me and Devin did great at ONE tournament. I was lucky. Devin beat PC. End of story, Devin's better than a lot of people.

Dai-A needs to go to more, so that you guys can find out of he's a Xsyven or Devin.
 

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The thing is, Xsyven, that we have all seen him preform at the play'n trade tournies time and time again. They may have really crumy rules over there, but we have seen him play and we know that he has alot of skill. Normally this wouldn't matter, but with brawl's release coming-up fast their just isn't going to be enough real tournies for him to "climb the ladder" like the rest of you have. It says directly above the power rankings that it is here to promote competition. How are we to do that if we tell new smashers that they won't be added simply because there aren't enough tournaments left for us to tell whether it is a "fluke" or skill. WE KNOW THAT DAI-A AND KHOM ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO BE ON THERE SO WHY AREN'T THEY?
 

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Fine...it's a "fact" that FTS didn't care then. But it can also be a "fact" that Devin and C!Z didn't care for the pre-EVO one. Just because things are "facts" doesn't make them not Johns. It's a fact that I got 3 hours of sleep before SoP 6, but it'll still be a John when I say that that was my reason for me losing
Somebody knows how CO thinks. Good shiz, mangz.
 

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The thing is, Xsyven, that we have all seen him preform at the play'n trade tournies time and time again. They may have really crumy rules over there, but we have seen him play and we know that he has alot of skill. Normally this wouldn't matter, but with brawl's release coming-up fast their just isn't going to be enough real tournies for him to "climb the ladder" like the rest of you have. It says directly above the power rankings that it is here to promote competition. How are we to do that if we tell new smashers that they won't be added simply because there aren't enough tournaments left for us to tell whether it is a "fluke" or skill. WE KNOW THAT DAI-A AND KHOM ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO BE ON THERE SO WHY AREN'T THEY?


wow BRUCE...this touched my heart....good job!!...but but am i not good enough?? :(
 

billythegoat

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Chris you are definantily good enough, but it was Dai-a and Khom that were being discussed at the time.
 
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