**Official Titans of Smash (ToS) Crew Thread** We Never Died

[GOTM]

Just so everyone knows, in Melee, I am money matching Xzax with Mewtwo. $10 per match, against any one of his characters. I know he wants to do at least 5 of them.

P.S. I am going to **** him. He thinks my Mewtwo blows.

 

[Roxas215]

Just so everyone knows, in Melee, I am money matching Xzax with Mewtwo. $10 per match, against any one of his characters. I know he wants to do at least 5 of them.

P.S. I am going to **** him. He thinks my Mewtwo blows.

lol. Is xzax even good in melee?

 

[Dotcom]

Not really.. :[

 

[KayLo!]

I wonder how many weeks' worth of allowance Xzax saved up for this.

 

[Roxas215]

I wonder how many weeks' worth of allowance Xzax saved up for this.

t-roo. if xzax dont have money to catch a bus how the hell is he doing mm's? 12 yr old priorities are all ****ed up.

 

[blakinola]

itt: people who excel in brawl are okay at melee, people who excel in melee still excel in melee, details at 11

 

[CT Chia]

Bleh... so many misconceptions. This is why I didn't want to take it public exactly (SmashBoards), but I had no choice since it really is an issue with many people in this crew.

Props to GOTM for holding down the fort until I got back. I'm currently in San Jose waiting for my flight to Los Angeles. But yea, almost everyone doesn't understand what I'm talking about.

I don't care about the boards. I don't want people flat out calling people out on **** that doesn't make sense or starting senseless fights or deceiving people, however I like the laid back and chill style of places such as this thread (except the situation where there is a serious topic at hand that needs to be done).

But I generally mean while acting in person, some people are flat out atrocious at times. This can extend to online in some ways. I REALLY don't want to name people or events but I feel like it's eventually going to happen, as there is probably no other way to get people to realize what's going on. When it's all out there, you guys will see where I'm coming from. For the record since you seemed a little uptight about it, don't worry Phillyrider, there's nothing wrong with you that I can think of lol. You're cool on the boards, mad chill in person, etc.

No one hate on Flizzz. His seemingly absent-minded posts here are a great relief from a lot of hassle lol.

As for the comment on games being serious business, some people go to tournaments more often than not. Unfortunately (since it's probably for the worst), my life practically changed when Smash started. GOTM and I were friends since before college, and we started Smash at college when the friends we made coincidentally liked the game, however we both had played it since before college, just nothing serious. That's kind of what happens when you hang out with people like Scar or Cactuar even when Smash isn't involved lol. Then for a while in college it was just playing Smash with friends in our free time, going to tournaments a lot on weekends, and as the case for a lot of us, when not at a tournament we were home in Jersey.

Our friends were smashers and naturally, smashers became our friends. It seems that the average age of smashers has really dropped somewhat, or not progressed at all with others. Now I'm almost 21, almost a 4th year college student, and my average friends I hang out with - smashers - are completely who they shouldn't be. For the most part the people I know through Smash are all younger, less mature, un-reliable, etc. This isn't the case for everyone, it's just that I yearn for more. I should be going to college parties, or hanging out with people more around my age on average. This is potentially my problem, but it's also how the crew started, but whenever we get a new member, it just seems to stray away from what it was more than it was like before.

Our crew was originally a handful of members, all aged within a year of each other (with one, maybe two exceptions), all from the same area, and were all great friends - all similar in how we acted and presented ourselves - whether or not Smash was involved. I knew Mexi and GOTM for 4 years before I started competitive Smash to name a couple. Talwind and Kyuu went to the same high school as us as well (even if GOTM and I didn't know it at the time haha).

I feel like I'm starting to go off on a tangent, but GOTM brought up another great point is that this also started more with the advent of Brawl. I want to play the game I like. If I like Brawl, so be it, but the community itself is so ****ed up compared to the classic Melee scene (I say classic meaning pre-Brawl since I'm not too fond of the Melee scene now post-Brawl, it's quite different) that it's rubbed off on plenty of members. Naturally the players of the Brawl scene seem unintelligent (at life, not at the game), immature, younger, and less respectful.

As a person I care about how I represent myself and the dignity that I hold for myself. If my friends can't uphold the same values, then it's tough to consider them as true friends that I would like to have outside of Smash as well. For instance, I'm sure people would love it if we went out to dinner again as a crew. That's outside the game however, you can't act the same way you do at a tournament in public or with others who aren't involved in the same game or activity, or your elders. It's something I feel many people aren't capable of in a way. I can name plenty that are, but at this moment I would rather not name anyone yet unless people would really like me to so we can all deal with this.

Personal PM'ing is not the way to solve this. That makes it a one-on-one problem between me and them, which it is not. I know 100% that there are people besides me in this crew that feel the exact same way that I do. Many people tbh. I also notice it more and more at National events like Genesis when I meet other crews from various regions that I feel have reached such a level of maturity that I find myself more fitted with than in my own crew, which is sad. I'm envious of how the midwest and texas crews represent themselves at events. I can't help but almost find us as a laughing stock when PA travels.

 

[GOTM]

God ****it, if Waluigi was in Brawl I could have stayed around to keep some of you little maggots in line.

 

[KayLo!]

I think I sort of see where you're coming from. Not gonna lie, TX and the MW have a lot of kick*** people who do seem, for the most part, older and generally more.... mature. Especially TX.

But what exactly is your solution for this? Not saying you should call people out, but, uh.... actually, I'm just going to stay out of this, because I feel like this has nothing to do with me at this point. I haven't even met half the crew.... -_-

Just gonna say that I see your point more clearly now.

 

[Roxas215]

O. Ok i kinda see where your coming from now. Umm..... It seems that as the crew evolved your 1st thoughts of how the crew would turn out didn't actually turn out that way. I admit the ages of all the people in this crew vary ALOT. I think it starts from 14 and goes all the way to 27. When you have a crew of that variation then of course people will bump heads. Reading how the crew started it reminded me of my old crew(me mib squall and tusm) We started it strictly because we wanted to represent philly in the smash world. As time went on more members joined(wurv,kaylo etc) Just as you said (all from the same area, and were all great friends - all similar in how we acted and presented ourselves )

So i can see as the crew changed you would be a little upset by it. Honestly i don't know how you would go about solving this problem.

Edit actually i think letting slickvik join will solve any problem and any future problem from here on out! lol

 

[GenesisJLS]

Alright, this is a serious thread.

 

[The Phazon Assassin]

Seeing as how some people are having a serious discussion at the moment, it would be greatly appreciated if you didn't post things like that here. Better yet, just stop.

Anyways, Chibo, I have no idea where this game from, or who you're referring to, but if you feel like something should be done, then either discuss it, or just do it.

I don't know, I read your post, but I didn't fully comprehend it. I'm thinking about something else at the moment. Don't mind me.

 

[GenesisJLS]

Just so everyone knows, in Melee, I am money matching Xzax with Mewtwo. $10 per match, against any one of his characters. I know he wants to do at least 5 of them.

P.S. I am going to **** him. He thinks my Mewtwo blows.

I've been playing Melee for the past 3 months. I'd money match you with my Marth, but then again I remember how badly you beat me in Melee 6 months ago. I can wave dash now! Anyway, you live in Philly?

I would say come to my apartment, but I only have one tv and it's an hdtv. So I'm down to go to anyone else's house, provided I don't have to do ridiculous things to get there. Seeing the matches at genesis really amped me up and I need to rep the funky monkey and maybe some new characters.

I really wish I could be more active. I do miss seeing the lot of you. But until I can hold down a new job, then all I can do is play and watch, ya know?

sigh

/emo

Ak, I really want to play you again. Your DK used to make me pull my hair out. I remember my Meta gliding into you thinking that it will connect, but all I would really get is a fully charged f-smash. Let's play again, you busy Friday afternoon?

 

[Steel]

Chibo, from what I can tell you're nostalgic of what things used to be. You miss hanging out with people more your age and with a smaller, tight-nit group.

You go OoS and you see crews that have older people/melee people in them that are probably better friends with each other even outside of the game. This isn't a problem that can be fixed unless you just kick out the people/talk to them you feel are ruining that "<3 this crew" feeling. As you know, things can't remain how we want them forever. If you want to attend more college parties to be around your peers then do so, this crew obviously doesn't give you that satisfaction you want for the moment.

If it's truly as big of a deal as you are making it out to be then at least name the people. Give them a chance to defend themselves and let everything work itself out. May prove to be a better/quicker solution than you think.

 

[Roxas215]

Chibo, from what I can tell you're nostalgic of what things used to be. You miss hanging out with people more your age and with a smaller, tight-nit group.

You go OoS and you see crews that have older people/melee people in them that are probably better friends with each other even outside of the game. This isn't a problem that can be fixed unless you just kick out the people/talk to them you feel are ruining that "<3 this crew" feeling. As you know, things can't remain how we want them forever. If you want to attend more college parties to be around your peers then do so, this crew obviously doesn't give you that satisfaction you want for the moment.

If it's truly as big of a deal as you are making it out to be then at least name the people. Give them a chance to defend themselves and let everything work itself out. May prove to be a better/quicker solution than you think.

I agree it seems he just miss the way the crew used to be. Can't really change that unless u just kick people out and that def wouldn't be fair to people getting kicked out solely because they don't provide what u missed. You need to just name people and go on from there. Harsh but it's the only true way to solve this if you feel that deep about it. TBH it seems like you are just jealous of Oos crews "family" feel that they have and you remember how this crew USED to have that.

Anyway my house is free wed night if anyone wants to play. Also my phone is working again(kinda) Had to pimpslap it peach style a few times! So if u need to call me i can actually answer lol. 267-467-5877

 

[teh_spamerer]

If I like Brawl, so be it, but the community itself is so ****ed up compared to the classic Melee scene (I say classic meaning pre-Brawl since I'm not too fond of the Melee scene now post-Brawl, it's quite different) that it's rubbed off on plenty of members.

Melee scene now is fine as long as you don't get them to talk about Brawl. They are going to hate on it and tbh, you can't blame them for hating on the game. Melee players have to deal with over 9000 idiots who act like they know exactly how Melee is played without having ever played the game at a competitive level. That **** gets MAAAAAAAAAD annoying really fast.

 

[KayLo!]

Anyway my house is free wed night if anyone wants to play.

I'll be there. Can we do singles this time? It always gets crowded, and then we have to do doubles because there's too many people......

Also, I'm bringing my Wii this time. Eff your freezy BS. =X

 

[Roxas215]

I'll be there. Can we do singles this time? It always gets crowded, and then we have to do doubles because there's too many people......

Also, I'm bringing my Wii this time. Eff your freezy BS. =X

Eff your wii! My wii is the truth and im spoiled by kingdom hearts music now! I swear my wii never freezes on me. Idk what the hell yall are doing. I even tried to make it freeze and it didnt. Also it never froze once when dotcom and rush was here.

Anyway yea we can do singles. As long as yall dont mind waiting like 15 mins each match lol. But im going to try to get my dad to let me use his tv so we can have 2.


Besides im in a doubles mood now! I can actually win with peach there. lol

 

[12 Pack]

If I like Brawl, so be it, but the community itself is so ****ed up... Naturally the players of the Brawl scene seem unintelligent (at life, not at the game), immature, younger, and less respectful.

This is probably one of the most intelligent statements I have ever seen on smashboards. One of the reasons I doubt i'll be going to many more tournies is because for the most part, people in the brawl community are incredible immature and disrespectful. I love chillin with ToS and playing brawl, but the majority of people I have met in the brawl community (outside of ToS) are self-centered and argumentative. For example, at tournies, two people will be playing friendlies and others will be waiting to use the TV. After the friendly is over, the person who lost refuses to let someone else play. Really?

Another thing that annoys me and I was discussing this with .com, is that people seem to make brawl the main priotity in their life. BRAWL IS A VIDEO GAME. Playing brawl and going to tournies is merely a hobby. It should not define your life (unless your M2K lol). People should be focusing on school, careers, relationships etc. In 5 or 10 years when most smashers will have graduated from college, what are they going to do with their lives?

I just have one question for all the brawlers out their who take this game way to seriously. Are you really going to let a video game impede your future aspirations? People need to spend less time worrying about brawl and more time focusing on doing productive **** like getting an education/ job etc.

 

[Roxas215]

Or they could focus on parties and getting some!!!!! Thats always a goal worth reaching!!!!


but really i agree!!

 

[KayLo!]

Another thing that annoys me and I was discussing this with .com, is that people seem to make brawl the main priotity in their life. BRAWL IS A VIDEO GAME. Playing brawl and going to tournies is merely a hobby. It should not define your life (unless your M2K lol). People should be focusing on school, careers, relationships etc. In 5 or 10 years when most smashers will have graduated from college, what are they going to do with their lives?

I just have one question for all the brawlers out their who take this game way to seriously. Are you really going to let a video game impede your future aspirations? People need to spend less time worrying about brawl and more time focusing on doing productive **** like getting an education/ job etc.

This needs to be posted somewhere for all of SWF to see and read and comprehend and whatever the **** else it takes for people to understand it.

 

[blakinola]

Focusing on getting by in life has taken away from mah brawl. In some aspects I don't miss it, as I get to see my darling girlfriend and focus on improving my own character, Akinola.

Everyone has different issues that they're dealin with, whether it's finding work, keeping your current job, paying loans, takin kaylo out on a date, finding out how to make it to next week, shoryukens, much less tomorrow. I'm constantly reminded of how old I am and how I should take more responsibility now that I've graduated from college. I know that people in the crew have it much harder than I do at times. The last thing on my mind is videogames. There is actually a similar issue that happens with guilds and **** on World of Warcraft, but if people choose to be serious with that, then that's their prerogative--i'm not even going to get into that.

The point that Rush has made is something that everyone who hasn't comprehended, should. In the end, this should be a game that we all can come together and play whenever we see fit, winning Genesis or anything else aside. If we can't have that fun, then there's no point in playing. I really just want to get in the game and get whorenadoe'd and banana locked and fsmashed and trip. I want to Africa Punch and Africa Clap and Africa Swing.

I want to go to a tournament and also have people cower in fear when they hear how good my dk is. I want people to not go "Oh it's ToS kekekekeke" I want people to take PA and this crew a bit more seriously, and that won't happen without a little reform. What reform that will take, I am unsure, but there's always somewhere to start. I want us to be known as a crew that can be serious and bring it to the table, but at the same time be held in decent regard, and at the same time have a good old time.

At the rate things are going, I won't be surprised if I didn't play another game of serious smash until the next game came out. And I don't want this to be a reality.

I'll be in the game room at drexel for a couple hours on Wednesday, and I'm down for Friday/Saturday, so get at me.

 

[KT Kasrani]

Woah. this chat is gettin kinda serious now. but personally i think yall taking this crew and brawling thing a little to far.

Anyway my house is free wed night if anyone wants to play.

would it be ok if i come ?

 

[KayLo!]

I'll be in the game room at drexel for a couple hours on Wednesday, and I'm down for Friday/Saturday, so get at me.

Come to Evan's Wednesday night! If you can't make it, uhh, I might be able to make it to the game room on Wednesday on my break from my internship..... only for ~1 hour, though, unless you're there after 3 (which is when I'm done).

 

[Hitman JT]

Another thing that annoys me and I was discussing this with .com, is that people seem to make brawl the main priotity in their life. BRAWL IS A VIDEO GAME. Playing brawl and going to tournies is merely a hobby. It should not define your life (unless your M2K lol). People should be focusing on school, careers, relationships etc. In 5 or 10 years when most smashers will have graduated from college, what are they going to do with their lives?

I just have one question for all the brawlers out their who take this game way to seriously. Are you really going to let a video game impede your future aspirations? People need to spend less time worrying about brawl and more time focusing on doing productive **** like getting an education/ job etc.

This. Last thing anyone wants to do is end up like this guy.

 

[Roxas215]

lmao truth.

 

[kingkirby91]

Almost forgot.
do any of u got the homebrew channel. i wanna put it on my wii for texture hacks.

 

[CT Chia]

!!!

It's 8:30, I'm in Philly, and don't have class till 11. Anyone up for some early morning smash?

Edit: making my reply to stuff now since I'm back online at Philly

Edit 2: I'm done the post, but it almost seems so harsh in some ways that I'm still reluctant to post it. I don't mean anything bad by it, but if people wanted me to really say my thoughts...

 

[GenesisJLS]

!!!

It's 8:30, I'm in Philly, and don't have class till 11. Anyone up for some early morning smash?

Edit: making my reply to stuff now since I'm back online at Philly

Are you busy in the afternoon? Between 12-3? Today? I'll meet you at the game room, I'll go to Drexel for my lunch break? Just give me a time!

 

[Bnzaaa]

My little sister prevents me from going to any tournaments. Last weekend I was going to go to a tournament, but stuff happened. My little sister was away that weekend so it was freed up for me to go.

I'm the only other adult around, so when my parents are gone or resting, I have to watch her. Saturday's neither of my parents are around in the mornings, so I usually end up missing tournaments alltogether because I have no way of getting there.

Last time I went to a tournament after watching my sister, I got there mad late because NJtransit sucks. My tournament matches were the only ones I played that entire day because people hogged stations for friendlies the entire time, or they did money matches. No one wanted to face Ice Climbers in friendlies and I didn't have money left over so I played Melee and left.

I can't go to midweek smashfests most of the time because I have to watch my little sister (or I'm not invited.) This reason is also the reason I haven't gotten to see a lot of my old friends. The only way I can get any practice is if people come over, which they rarely do. My little sister refuses to play now.

I feel like I've gotten better but I can't prove that unless I go to tournaments.

These and other reasons are why my summer has been so bad. I come back to Philly August 30th and classes start the next day .

 

[Hitman JT]

Yo i'd be down for some smash but I gotta be somewhere at 2:20

 

[Vex Kasrani]

I'm dropping all of my characters and now maining bowser.

 

[CT Chia]

Are you busy in the afternoon? Between 12-3? Today? I'll meet you at the game room, I'll go to Drexel for my lunch break? Just give me a time!

Sorry... I have work then
I'm pretty busy and don't have much time for Smash up at Drexel except for rare times like getting into Philly from Cali at 7am and not having class till 11 lol

 

[Steel]

!!!

It's 8:30, I'm in Philly, and don't have class till 11. Anyone up for some early morning smash?

Edit: making my reply to stuff now since I'm back online at Philly

Edit 2: I'm done the post, but it almost seems so harsh in some ways that I'm still reluctant to post it. I don't mean anything bad by it, but if people wanted me to really say my thoughts...

leave things how they are or risk things getting worse/better if you do post it. your choice

 

[GenesisJLS]

Sorry... I have work then
I'm pretty busy and don't have much time for Smash up at Drexel except for rare times like getting into Philly from Cali at 7am and not having class till 11 lol

That sucks! O well, I guess I'll have to continue practicing on level 9's.

 

[KayLo!]

Edit 2: I'm done the post, but it almost seems so harsh in some ways that I'm still reluctant to post it. I don't mean anything bad by it, but if people wanted me to really say my thoughts...

Pretty much what Steel said. Either post it or don't post it.... it's up to you and how much you really want change.

If some people can't handle the truth or can't defend themselves in a mature, civil manner, then that just further proves your point.

I feel like I've gotten better but I can't prove that unless I go to tournaments.

These and other reasons are why my summer has been so bad. I come back to Philly August 30th and classes start the next day .

That sucks, dude. Sounds kind of like me..... I'm hella lazy, but I'm also just too busy for tournaments/Smashfests half the time, and I want to see how much I've really improved (because I know I have).

If you can make it to Philly Wednesday night, Evan's invited people to play at his house.

@Vex: Why the sudden change of heart?

 

[GOTM]

Post it MSak!

 

[_umbra_]

noooo vex... come over to the dark side...

 

[CT Chia]

i dont know if i should post it @_@

its pretty harsh imo, but so true

 

[Steel]

like we just said, don't post it if you want things to remain how they are