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Official Link Question and Answer Thread

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Swordplay

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READ THE RULES PRIOR TO POSTING



Part 1: Announcements
Part 2: Rules
Part 3: FAQ


Announcements


1. From now on, if you would like a question added to the FAQ PM me with a Link to the current page the question was asked. I will consider adding it If I believe it to be helpful and of importance.


2. A Smash Lab as been created. It is currently undergoing development and in the process of finding "researchers." Researchers will be people that have a Cyan name. They research really advanced things like frame data and questions that elude even smash pros.

If you think you have something that needs researching this is a great place to go. If you have questions pertaining to Link that nobody knows, it is probably because nobody has done any research has been done on it. In this case, I will ask a researcher to find out the information for you and post the answer to your question right here for all to see.

However, you are more than welcome to go there by yourself and ask those very obscure questions that need researching. Here are the links.

Tactical Discussion Version Link


General Discussion Version Link



Rules for posting. There are over a dozen. read them all.

1. Post here if you have a question. Be as specific as possible.

2. If you are unsure if something has been found post here before creating a new thread.

3. If you need help with anything from beating a certain character to performing an AT, post here and you will be directed.

4. No flaming will be tolerated. Many useless questions may be asked but they are more than welcome here than in an entirely new thread.

5. Link players will respond in a timely matter with great answers that will address the specific question asked. If the question or discovery has been previously answered in an important and up to date thread, we reserve the right to redirect you to that thread where the answer is located.

6. Questions will be answered with some substance and detail to help the questionnaire understand why that answer is the correct answer to his or her question.

7. More than one question is allowed at one time. The Link boards will do their best to cover all questions asked as according to the rules.

8. Debates between responders are acceptable and arguing is not. Know the difference.

9. If to people have the same question at the same time or at different times. we will do our best to address each individual person and their situation.

10. Do not post the same question over and over if you are the same person. Learn from the answers we give you and improve. If you have a different question, you are more than welcome to come back and ask.

11. Trust our knowledge. If you ask a question you will get a great and correct answer from good Link players, We know Link better than you do so trust that our answer is correct.

12. It is recommended you quote the person you are responding to.

13. Only respond if you know the answer.

14. Link players have lives. We are sorry if we cannot answer your question right away. We will get to it as soon as possible. Even if we have to research.

15. If all else fails, you always have the search forum. http://www.smashboards.com/search.php

16. You can also check out the FAQ. Just scroll down.

17. These are not permanent rules. Should the rules need editing, I will do so if enough people petition for it.
 

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Frequently Asked Questions and Answers


Question

Where is the old Link community


Answer
If your looking for the old Link community they can be found here. http://allisbrawl.com/forum/forum.aspx?fid=22

Question

Is there such a thing as a stupid question


Answer
There are no stupid questions in The Official Link Question and Answer Thread.

Question

Where can I find out more about Link techniques?


Answer

Try this thread. It is the official common knowledge database for Link.
Official Basic Knowledge Link Guide



Question

How do I jab cancel.


Answer

There are two ways to jab cancel. The first way is to let the jab animation end and put in another another command. The second way is to have another animation override the jab animation. The most popular example of this is crouching. Crouching is an animation that will cancel the string of jabs allowing you to restart your jabs or do something else.

For more depth on this topic please check this out. It came from one of the guides. Basics of Link the Jab Cancel



Question

Links recovery sucks and I die a lot. How do you DI properly to avoid this?



Answer


Watch this video

Question

How do I perform Bomb slides? How do I make them go in the different directions: up, down, and forward?



Answer
If you perform a perfect bomb slide then Hitting up Z will make you throw the bomb up. Hitting diagonally forward up and Z makes you throw the bomb forwards. Hitting Diagonally up and back will make you throw the bomb backwards. If you perform a fake out bomb slide, the bomb will always go forwards. Keep in mind The timings are different from a true bomb slide and a fake out.
This video explains everything you need to know about Bomb sliding. Helpful Bombsliding Video

For advanced information on bombsliding you can check this out. Sasooks guide The Basics of Link Bombsliding





Question
How can i do the DAC with wii mote and nunchuk

Answer

That thread discusses numerous ways as well as the best way to DAC with your wiichuck. Bomb slides are the same thing as DAC except with a bomb. If you can do 1 with practice you can do the other. They are virtually the same thing.


Question

What are Links best and worst stages?



Answer

:link2: Link
Best: Rainbow Cruise, Norfair
Worst: Frigate Orpheon

Question
Where can I find Link frame data?


Answer

http://allisbrawl.com/forum/topic.aspx?id=124952


Question
I play Toon Link and I was wondering if there were any things that make Link a lot better than Toon Link which I could use? I like Link but I have problems using him.

Answer
Only difference between link and TL you need to know

TL mains are gay
Link mains are hella baller

'nuff said


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kr3wman

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First question and possibly the last depending on your answer.

I have to ask how this got back up? I don't recall making another thread.

Did a mod do this? For what reason? Cause I gave nobody permission to put this back up. So how did this happen?
Someone, after all your stupid ramblings about how no one gives a **** about the link boards, decided he felt bad for you guys.

And then you come in and start complaining.

Good job.

Really, good job.

Oh and, that four questions.

Yeah, good job again.
 

LinkSpecialist

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Sorry for the spam before, but whatever.

OK, here's an actual question.

Is it commonly known that you can instantly toss a bomb after dropping it in the air?

For ex: Pressing Z then throwing the bomb a split second later.

This also helps for throwing two bombs at once, assuming you've tossed one in the air, pulled out another and chucked out the first one. And no, this isn't done by tapping solely the A button ether.
 

Swordplay

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Recently I got a PM. Saying that if I wanted I could have this taken down.

I hate the mods and what they have done. However, I do not want to carry out their action and continue inflicting damage to SWF members. The AIB movement group probably won't come back until the mods have had some time to cool down and make these boards usable again. I myself am part of the movement.

At the same time, I will NOT ask these boards to be taken down. I do not want to continue hurting people like the mods *cough* *buzz* did. Maybe they are only doing their job but they hurt the community, something I don't want to do.

I won't post any more but I will continue to update the FAQ if you PM me with something you think should be in there.

You guys are on your own. I'm moving to a forum more about fun than rules. Until SWF does the same, the Link community won't come back. Have a nice day.
 

lilmister

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Here's a question for you.

Why aren't you grateful?

Thank you whoever did this for bringing of the more important thread's back.
Umm you're welcome I guess? I'm not sure if it was me but I'm really sorry SP, I tried to persuade a mod into REOPENING your previous Q&A thread...maybe he heard me out? idk...but i guess making a new one was the only real alternative so I'm really sorry if that puts too much stress on your part.

I wanted the previous thread to be reopened so newcomers would be able to browse through the already well discussed thread for any problems. I mean not all of them would know about the whole SWF movement unless we tell them...
I apologize heapsa
 

Mic_128

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I'm deleting all the posts here going on about the situation. It's being discussed with the admins, lets just move on already. Before anyone says it, I'm not trying to censor or hide anything, I'm just trying to keep this thread for asking and answering questions about link to JUST asking and answering questions about Link.
 

Rawnie

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Umm I am considering Link as a secondary, so I came here. As I lurked around the Link boards I could not find a Match-up thread. Do the Link boards have one? If so could someone please give me a LINK to it?

Lol. Get it? Link? /lamejoke

But seriously, thanks.

If there isn't I would be happy to make one.
 

zagoon

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Hi, i found something with link and i want to know if everyone knows about this , the thing is:

Short hop and fast fall and when you are about to touch the ground press Up-C , link takes out the sword , it shines ( the sword ) and when it touchs the ground it haves no lag.

I find it quite stupid but who knows maybe someone finds it useful!

( I don´t speak english )
 

Anonano

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Hi, i found something with link and i want to know if everyone knows about this , the thing is:

Short hop and fast fall and when you are about to touch the ground press Up-C , link takes out the sword , it shines ( the sword ) and when it touchs the ground it haves no lag.

I find it quite stupid but who knows maybe someone finds it useful!

( I don´t speak english )
That's the start-up lag to your up aerial. If you land an aerial before it actual goes into the "damage" mode, it will autocancel.

In essence, you're making a pretty sword without actually doing anything.
 

-Mars-

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Umm I am considering Link as a secondary, so I came here. As I lurked around the Link boards I could not find a Match-up thread. Do the Link boards have one? If so could someone please give me a LINK to it?

Lol. Get it? Link? /lamejoke

But seriously, thanks.

If there isn't I would be happy to make one.
Everyone left to allisbrawl because of Mods or something....even though I didn't really think it was necessary.

They did have one at a point but the TC stopped after about 15 characters and it was never completed. If you started another one it most likely wouldn't have much contribution even though I would be willing to contribute.

so who would offisial be the best and next best Link?
1.Deva
2.Legan
3.Izaw
4.Arkive Zero

Just my opinion but it is the common opinion as well.

Edit: Anonano you have 666 posts.....you better post again quickly :)
 

chris the brawler

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Everyone left to allisbrawl because of Mods or something....even though I didn't really think it was necessary.

They did have one at a point but the TC stopped after about 15 characters and it was never completed. If you started another one it most likely wouldn't have much contribution even though I would be willing to contribute.



1.Deva
2.Legan
3.Izaw
4.Arkive Zero

Just my opinion but it is the common opinion as well.

Edit: Anonano you have 666 posts.....you better post again quickly :)
ok thanks, but are you sure? i could never imagine that Legan is better than Izaw.
 

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ok thanks, but are you sure? i could never imagine that Legan is better than Izaw.
The list is slightly off.
1.Deva
2.ArkiveZero
3.Legan
4.Izaw
It's kind of hard to compare a top European player to a top American player, mainly because most American players have no idea who the best European players are. I'd still place Legan above Izaw because he can compete with the best ROB (one of Link's worst match-ups) in the US.
I don't know of any notable players Izaw has beaten.
Arkive has (barely) beaten Legan in dittos, and he has good, consistent tournament placings to back that up, so he's definitely number two.
Deva beat DSF. Nuff' said.
 

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Dittos mean nothing when your comparing player skill.....it just means one of them knows the matchup better.

Legan's gone toe-to-toe with OS's ROB and MK, so i'll take him over Arkive.....not by much but by a little.
 

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Dittos mean nothing when your comparing player skill.....it just means one of them knows the matchup better.

Legan's gone toe-to-toe with OS's ROB and MK, so i'll take him over Arkive.....not by much but by a little.
I don't feel like arguing who is better, because it's pointless. We'll see at Genesis. However, in the Link boards tier list on AllisBrawl, Arkive is ranked above Legan, and no one has complained. I was only stating the opinion of the boards.
 

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Ok so why exactly has everyone one the link boards moved to AiB? It's a bit confusing.
The mods closed a couple of their threads that were against the rules so they went to a place that didn't have as strict of regulations I guess.
 

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It's honeslty a long story but long story made short is that, one morning we woke up and instead of finding our cozy little section we wake up to see almost every thread on the first page locked. Even very important ones.
 

chris the brawler

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sorry for dp'ing, i just want you guys to know that even tough most players have moved to AiB we'll still answear your questions. (with "we" i mean me or possibly someone else)
 

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I find it rather irksome that ArkiveZero calls Toon Link "gay".
I bet he's just mad Toon Link is so much better. I don't really give a ****, just as long as "Link" is in the name, and he's good, I main him.
 

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I find it rather irksome that ArkiveZero calls Toon Link "gay".
I bet he's just mad Toon Link is so much better. I don't really give a ****, just as long as "Link" is in the name, and he's good, I main him.
Um that's not really in the realm of a question. :p And kind of off topic but we call him Gay because he's not cell shaded. Not because he's better. :p
 

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Um that's not really in the realm of a question. :p And kind of off topic but we call him Gay because he's not cell shaded. Not because he's better. :p
Well, idk about you, but I'm glad they didn't leave him cel shaded, it would just look so.... weird.
I prefer him as a young link with Mario style graphics. At least they left in some cel shaded stuff, like his bombs and bomb explosions.
And I didn't have a question, but I just had to make that comment. It made me appreciate ArkiveZero a lot less, doesn't matter how good he is with Link. :p
 

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I find it rather irksome that ArkiveZero calls Toon Link "gay".
I bet he's just mad Toon Link is so much better. I don't really give a ****, just as long as "Link" is in the name, and he's good, I main him.
If you main Toon Link then GTFO. This is the Link boards.
 

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I do USE Link though, he's one of my mains.
But I'm not just gonna sit here and let someone abuse my primary character, I don't give a **** what board it is.
>_>
GTFO. It's your best option at this point.

Run away as far as you can.

Link's will tear you apart (they hated the fact I even suggested talking to the Toon Link boards about AT's and such (since Link and TL share MANY of them)....
 

Darxmarth23

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Link and Tink are two worlds apart.

And there is a war in between. I would seriously consider this a rivalry, and to pick a side, the good side, our side, or...

gtfo.

But anyways, we need to make this board active. And bright ideas?
 

BRLNK88

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Link and Tink are two worlds apart.

And there is a war in between. I would seriously consider this a rivalry, and to pick a side, the good side, our side, or...

gtfo.

But anyways, we need to make this board active. And bright ideas?
I prefer Twilight Link as a character by far, but I pick the side of the better character in the game, which by far is Toon Link.
Not to mention, Toon Link wins in this match-up more times than not, albeit he doesn't dominate it.
Toon Link and Marth makes for a much better rivalry than Link and Tink.
 

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Link and Tink are two worlds apart.

And there is a war in between. I would seriously consider this a rivalry, and to pick a side, the good side, our side, or...

gtfo.

But anyways, we need to make this board active. And bright ideas?
First Link mainers should make a group and not make it public. Somebody can make it, invite people that are smart that have an interest in Link's game, and then start planning group action from there. Right now there is not much and its more of people's individual efforts, and thus too haphazard and inefficient. (Essentially new LBR and if there already is one, just what have you guys been doing?)

I prefer Twilight Link as a character by far, but I pick the side of the better character in the game, which by far is Toon Link.
Not to mention, Toon Link wins in this match-up more times than not, albeit he doesn't dominate it.
Toon Link and Marth makes for a much better rivalry than Link and Tink.
No don't compare Marth to TL. I hope you understand I have bias but Marth>TL as TL>Link
 

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I like link but i get my *** kicked so bad cuz of his recovery.....I dont really understand DI do you hold both sticks the direction u want to go? cud u explain or provide a fool proof vid?
 

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Oh cool you guys have a new Q&A. Yeah, I'm about to do the ladder in a few days and I am wondering about the uses of dair. It can leave you really vulnerable but its also, whats the word, insanely powerful. Thanks.
 

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I like link but i get my *** kicked so bad cuz of his recovery.....I dont really understand DI do you hold both sticks the direction u want to go? cud u explain or provide a fool proof vid?
Search "how to DI Arkive" on youtube. You should find a great video on DI. Watch it

Oh cool you guys have a new Q&A. Yeah, I'm about to do the ladder in a few days and I am wondering about the uses of dair. It can leave you really vulnerable but its also, whats the word, insanely powerful. Thanks.
Dair is a great KO move, can bounce off of projectiles, and why the hell can't you read our guides. :( or my Handbook which would have told you a little about dair...

It does more damage when fastfalled.

Great finisher for a bombstool.

Great KO move.

Don't spam it.
 

BRLNK88

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No don't compare Marth to TL. I hope you understand I have bias but Marth>TL as TL>Link
Yes indeed you have a bias, that makes you lose credibility.
I main both Marth and Toon Link, but Tink is my primary character.
But even with my bias, I'm man enough to say the match-up is even. You put a really good Marth against a really good Toon Link, and it will always go either way.
 
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