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Now if people still complain about Villager planking... Well of course they will. Apparently, customs on is perceived as a slow and campy meta because Villager and Sonic seem to be the only characters that people play in customs on. And Kong Cyclone is apparently broken even though everyone can air dodge out of it.
It still seems pretty good, but it does make a big difference. I was labbing it as Rosalina, and if my timing is *really* good, I can dair Villager through the balloons without being hit which was super impossible before. I know even pre-patch Shulk's dair could get through, but Shulk's dair is a ridiculous move that has a Monado level disjoint (it should actually be pretty easy for Shulk to get through now, naturally). I would not, however, be surprised if the other sword characters could now get through the balloons; it would be an interesting test.
I thought it felt like I was breaking them without harm, but I couldn't be sure.
Was the data for this stored somewhere other than Villager's file? It didn't turn up in the initial patch discussion.
Sort of. It's in a different file, which I should have checked but somehow overlooked.
Ice Breath buff seems relevant? Or well, it might be if Kirby wasn't completely terrible thanks to increased shieldstun.
While obviously I'm four hours late to responding to this, this kind of play might be good to coordinate through a recurring event, and perhaps facilitated through an easy hop-in-hop-out chat client like Discord or something. If/once it's made hostable for player tournaments, it'd be really easy to just run a passworded custom-moves tournament over a weekend or evening or something just to let people get together and smash.
Some misinformation from myself, sorry about that.
Was there some of them with item off? Was there some where Battlefield was also allowed?
Those that I participated in had Items off, Omega only and Mii Fighters banned with a bracket size of 8 players but 1v1 matches. Customization was set to Specials Only.
It's basically guaranteed that if/when a new revision comes up there'll be a lot of changes. But with public opinion being a bit lukewarm vs. customs now, it may take some doing to muster up the collective effort again.
Just one practical thing I thought about, but even if other people take over the project, your first post on the first page on this thread will still remain the reference. To edit it (especially after the patch note), we'll need a mode, or a new thread...
I think mods have the ability to transfer thread ownership, but we'll cross that bridge if we come to it.
If (or rather, since) order is important, I think it necessary to account for in the "release" lists. Naming is pretty optional, though.
I personally don't care much about the order, although you raise a good point that the last few sets at least should be somehow separated from the rest for the purposes of knowing which can be most safely omitted/deleted for people to make their own if they want. I don't think having different prefixes is even worth worrying about -- the sets are in one way or another, aren't they? What does it matter if they were added in the latest revision or not? I guess it depends on how the 3DS import system works. I never had to bother, I had all my customs unlocked before the first CMP finished.
The timing window on Easy Counter is impressively long, I could almost see it having some distant applications. Not Effortless Blade, though.
True, I know Shulk's Vision has a similarly huge activation window until it shrinks due to overuse.
Yeah, we basically want to make the process of updating the sets as painless as possible for those that want the new ones on their 3DS, but we still want the sets to be in a good order. Even though naming is optional, it's always good to give some recommendations.
The problem is that the list can become pretty messed up if a moveset is already on the Wii U (the transfer system isn't as smart as it should be). If this is the case, new sets can sometimes overwrite movesets that are not supposed to be overwritten while old sets that should be overwritten can be left on the console. If you change the name of every moveset however, they will count as new ones and overwrite the old sets just as they are supposed to. Basically, if you don't want to manually have to select which sets should be overwritten every time, renaming the sets is necessary.
While I do like variety, I think the character boards should have the biggest say in this. We can encourage them to consider every move for some movesets though. Or maybe I'm just spoiled because I'm hanging around on the Kirby boards with pretty varied sets...
I completely agree. We shouldn't try to rush it, but this should probably be the thread to discuss how the project will continue and when it will be organized.
I may be mis-naming it, but yes. Low damage, easier timing window, can only use forward (no up or down variants).
That sounds quite worthless then. (That said, I'm still not clear on how Dancing Blade should be timed for optimal results, so...yeah.)
This is an amazing project! I'm really happy to see people like you attempting to work with customs, instead of just playing it safe and outright banning customs. I have mad respect for everyone involved in this project!
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Sakurai shooting himself in the foot with this awesome feature
It doesn't. It gimps Link's recovery for a move that does lots of damage and kills.
Well... How would we do this then? I don't really know of a reliable way to get the attention of the developers.
Sometimes it's better to stack strengths than to worry about weaknesses though. Link always has to justify why he's being used over Toon Link, and great kill power is a great argument. Shocking Spin is 3f slower and does cut your survivability somewhat (I think you can make a lot of recoveries with just the tether though), but the power it offers is pretty large at this point.