A2ZOMG
Smash Legend
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I'll give my criticism. =PThere's too many "WTF were you thinking when you wrote that" lists for me to argue with.
but basically, can someone back up putting fox or sonic anywhere higher than mid? and can anyone back up putting any of the characters I placed as top below high?
here's my list again, in case you missed it.
Top:
Luigi
Marth
Diddy
Meta knight
Pit
Olimar
PT
Zelda
DDD
Toon link
Wolf
High:
Peach
Zamus
Lucas
Ike
R.O.B
Snake
Mario
Wario
GaW
Ice Climbers
Falco
Lucario
Pikachu
Kirby
Mid:
Ness
Bowser
Fox
Sonic
Samus
Link
Shiek
Low:
Falcon
Gannon
Yoshi
DK
Jigglypuff
I didn't go as far as in-tier order, just the basics "X tier"
Why is Jigglypuff so low? Did something about her become infinitely worse? I really don't know much about her.
Why is Peach really high? Just tell me, because other pros generally don't seem to agree with that one if she can't combo, has low kill strength, and overall when things like her Down-B, double jump, recovery, and D-smash have been noticeably nerfed.
G&W is top tier IMO. B-air is the broken approach. All of his aerials have a unique property, and they are easy to connect with and hit fairly hard. He has a techchase throw which has many immediate combo options (Jab, D-tilt, D-smash, Judgement). His Smashes are overpowered (Kill at %s like Ike does). The Bucket is really gay against projectile spammers. His recovery is top tier, and he juggles quite well because of his Up-B.
Zelda isn't top tier. Her moveset is indeed good, but very difficult to connect with (if she whiffs, low hitstun will get her punished indeed), unlike G&W's moveset, which too has moves that kill at very low %s and has amazing range. Move Zelda to high tier. G&W to top tier. The only thing Zelda beats G&W out in is projectile spamming really, which is good, but G&W happens to have ways of countering.
Otherwise everything else sounds consistent with what I'm hearing.