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Official Boxart / cover?

AtticusFinch

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It looks very real, but I would think that the Jappenese box art would be leaked first, not the English one.

Makes sense.
 

cccck

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It looks very real, but I would think that the Jappenese box art would be leaked first, not the English one.

Makes sense.
A good point... but not the less it is very cool. if only we could find it bigger...
 

Shuma

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Saying that it doesn't have enough characters or lots of characters in the box art doesn't mean it's fake...
 

AtticusFinch

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Oh, please do, I want to save this, but I want a bigger version to save.

Wait, maybe it's so small to hide the errors, I mean, If it is a fake.

But I like it ^^
 

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someone probably said this in the 9 pages of replies that i don't feel like reading, but if its fake, where did they get all the pictures of the characters the way they are standing since i don't believe any of the screens we've gotten have looked like that.


edit/
actually i take that back. i looked back at it and lets analyze 3 of the characters on the front.

1. Mario: screen could have been from Super Mario Galaxy or something
2. Link: honestly looks like a fan-art or from a TP promotional picture
3. Samus: could also easily be a Metroid Prime 3 promotional picture, but it kind of looks like something i saw from a metroid hunters picture.
 

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No screenshot I remember has any of them in the poses they are in. I'll go for..prototype box art. As you can see, no Wi-Fi sticker or rating. And it looks official to me.
 

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Did nobody read my post?

A. It is not photoshopped. This is drawn. Go learn what photoshop is. If it is computer in origin, it would have to be illustrator...but even that would be a lot more hassle than simply drawing it...which wouldn't take that much time for a skilled artist. Yes, that's right, it wouldn't take that much time.

B. Pikachu is in the exact same pose as one of the screens on Dojo. Same for Fox.

C. Go read my post.

Other than that, I'm willing to believe that this boxart is real. I'm far from convinced...but my jaw wouldn't drop if it was. It would be cool as boxart too. Better than Melee's. I would prefer a different character lineup on the front...but I love the fact that it's not a screenshot.

Ala Strikers:

http://www.nintendolife.com/images/packshot/games/wii/mario_strikers_charged

 

Shuma

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Fox doesn't have the same pose, he is walking, not standing still.

I really think it's not fake, why? what kind of idiot would spend at least 3 hours doing that just for giggles?
 

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Here's the thing. If it's fake, it still WAS created from scratch. The characters were not photoshop'd together or taken from other pictures, though the poses may have been inspired by preexisting pictures. However, you can tell that it was created from scratch due to the lighting on the characters. They all fit, based on the light in the background. You don't just luck into that. If someone made this, they at least made it from scratch in order to get the lighting and blue tones correct.

I still think it's real. It could be fanart, sure, but it's so possible that it's real that I have no reason to question it. Like I said in my first post in this thread, if someone took the time to create all that, then he or she deserves to fool us. Or at least me.
 

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Fox doesn't have the same pose, he is walking, not standing still.

I really think it's not fake, why? what kind of idiot would spend at least 3 hours doing that just for giggles?
About the same kind of idiot who would draw fan-art, translate Mother 3, create Flash animations, write fanfiction, remix songs from his favourite game, create a joke site that looks like The Dojo, distribute lengthy videos on Youtube showing where elements from Melee came from, create a podcast...

*ahem*


Depending on the experience of the author and the original size, I'd estimate that the image took between 10 or 15 hours in total to make, spread over a few days.
 

Andromeda

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Well, thanks to Circus, I'm quite convinced that this one is real. But i'm not 100 % sure, of course. But it wouldn't surprise me if it appeared to be the official one on Wednesday.
 

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Wow!

It looks so legit! I believe this is real, due to the fact we've never seen them in positions like that, especially Pokemon Trainer. This is the only time I've ever thought something "leaked" is real.

If it's fake, well, that person deserves a medal!
 

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The Pokemon Trainer I think is the only one in that they could not have faked....


then again I take that back...I mean how many pictures do you think they could have found of Red...I'm sure there are hundreds...
 

Luke Groundwalker

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Here's the thing. If it's fake, it still WAS created from scratch. The characters were not photoshop'd together or taken from other pictures, though the poses may have been inspired by preexisting pictures. However, you can tell that it was created from scratch due to the lighting on the characters. They all fit, based on the light in the background. You don't just luck into that. If someone made this, they at least made it from scratch in order to get the lighting and blue tones correct.
You do know you can easily create lighting in photoshop, right?
 

Timat the Slayer

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If nobody else blew it up yet, I can probably get back to you guys in a few minutes with an enlarged picture..

It *Should* be good quality enlargement.

Edit: I take that back. I can blow it up to 2x Size with it still being..well... recognizable.

The real problem though, is the ****ty resolution. It's friggen 75 DPI >_>;

Do you want me to post the blown up 2x image size?
 

Luke Groundwalker

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Um, wow. You're never allowed to post again. Ever. Ever.
Too bad, stop complaining. I'm right.
His point is that the shading fits the character models perfectly, and considering the fact that creating in photoshop would use about 30 different layers, creating that image would have taken a LONG time.
Oh wow, it must be true, no one has EVER spent their time to make something in photoshop! It must be true, no one would go through THAT much even though thousands of people have!!
 

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Luke Groundwalker, don't say anything about how easy photoshopping is until you come back here with something you've photoshopped.

The more I look at this boxart the more I like it. I hope it drops Wednesday.
 

Piks

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[BTW, to people who still won't think it's real because of a lack of Wi-fi Logo, the Phantom Hourglass boxart had "Rating Pending" and no Wi-Fi on the cover when it was leaked.


Annnyway... I don't think I've seen that Mario pose or Link's pose, but some of them look taken from DOJO.

As someone said before, the lighting looks way too nice to be Photoshopped. I'd say it's possible for it to be real. But then again, those Kirby hats are fan-made, so I don't know what it is. We just have to wait and see for conformation.


~Piks
 

Luke Groundwalker

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Luke Groundwalker, don't say anything about how easy photoshopping is until you come back here with something you've photoshopped.
I don't think you get me, let me reword this.

If you KNOW what you're doing in photoshop, it should be done easily. And yes, a few hours count as easily, because compared to other things that could take days to work on, something as lighting isn't much.
 

Timat the Slayer

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I don't think you get me, let me reword this.

If you KNOW what you're doing in photoshop, it should be done easily. And yes, a few hours count as easily, because compared to other things that could take days to work on, something as lighting isn't much.
Actually, I'd have to say even if you knew what you're doing, it would take a lot of time to do that for that many different people. Ontop of that, the character's have different artistic styles which would affect their lighting styles. If someone did fake the image, then yes, it would still take a long time, and if they did nothing else, I'd say they could do it in..Let's say 2 days roughly, to get it to that detailed level.

...Well..At least it'd be detailed if it had better resolution -_-
 

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This argument is pointless, Luke Groundwalker has never created any fake 'official' boxart ever, so he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Anyway, this looks very real, and comes from a reliable enough source. On top of that I said it's true
 

Xsyven

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Luke, you could be right. I'll admit your superior Photoshoppery once you find us all the character renders this photoshopper used then.

I think it's fake, but it must've been done from scratch.



Alright, so, I blew up the image a bit, and because of that, it lost a lot of quality. I tried to sharpen it up a bit, but it's still pretty gnarly lookin'.

 

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NAh, I say they could have had a base. MMario appears to be in the same position as he is in a DOJO picture, with his eyes modified. And Link looks a lot like he does in the Twilight Princess picture, with his eyes moved. Red is in the EXACT position as he is in the DOJO update from the head and the body could have easily been faked. The drenching of the light was another fault, people use the technique to hide discrepincies, with a cool effect. Fake. But it could be real, I don't know why everyone's waiting for Wednesday, like the answer will come that exact day. We'll only know for sure on Dec 3 people!
 

Luke Groundwalker

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Actually, I'd have to say even if you knew what you're doing, it would take a lot of time to do that for that many different people. Ontop of that, the character's have different artistic styles which would affect their lighting styles. If someone did fake the image, then yes, it would still take a long time, and if they did nothing else, I'd say they could do it in..Let's say 2 days roughly, to get it to that detailed level.
Naw, it would just take a good chunk out of your day if you made the lighting perfect for everyone.

And I think in any case, you can't really tell if it looks good or not. The picture is small as hell, the original could've looked like a completely sh-t shop for all we know and downsized to make it look like it's more legit.
Falco&Victory said:
This argument is pointless, Luke Groundwalker has never created any fake 'official' boxart ever, so he doesn't know what he's talking about.
No, that's too bad, I don't have to create a fake boxart to know what you can and can't do in photoshop. I admit to not being very good in photoshop compared to other people, but I've seen really good and realistic pictures that are completely shopped that took days (maybe even weeks) to do and I've seen tutorials on lighting that convinces me enough that you can indeed do what appears on the boxart in photoshop. Hell, for all we know, the creator could've spent months and created each character from scratch via photoshop and gave them really good lighting.
Xsyven said:
Luke, you could be right. I'll admit your superior Photoshoppery once you find us all the character renders this photoshopper used then.
Like I explained before, you could shop a character to make him look like he's in a different pose (usually, though, the outcome would be very ugly unless you're extremely good). So it isn't impossible to make it seem like they're in a completely new stance. But at the same time, it could be completely out of scratch.

I'm not denying that this could be real or a fake drawn one, as both could be possible. But I'm not going to deny that it CAN be shopped even if it took weeks to do.
 

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Luke, by all means, anything is possible in photoshop. But...

Like I explained before, you could shop a character to make him look like he's in a different pose (usually, though, the outcome would be very ugly unless you're extremely good). So it isn't impossible to make it seem like they're in a completely new stance.
No. If anyone would ever go through that much trouble instead of just drawing it from scratch... I mean, just, no.

But at the same time, it could be completely out of scratch.
Much more likely.
 

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On wensday I would really like Nintendo to Pwn alot people about the box. Alot people keep saying it's fake and I don't blame you. With all the crap people put on the internet and all. I won't believe this to be real until word from nintendo, but Most likely this is real.

Doing this on Photoshop from scratch would be a hard thing to do. I don't even think this is done on photoshop. The images are in a 3D model. This could have been done on other media.

And Don't really don't think that link pic is from TP. Something is just telling me it's not.
 

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There is a private Nintendo conference on Wednesday and some people think that Nintendo will reveal the offical box art then.
 

cccck

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There is a private Nintendo conference on Wednesday and some people think that Nintendo will reveal the offical box art then.
I thought of that... but then thought no way EVERYONE "knows" that we see the box art then... so thought it had to be some other thing..
 
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