Official BBR Tier List v7

[M@v]

No old videos of the MU I'm afraid, I just looked.

Gonna have to learn the nuances by recording my own matches, it seems. Thanks anyway.

Talk to melon about it. He plays me enough to know the mu by now.

 

[ViperGold42]

What.

If I can't bash it for something I don't like about it, what am I allowed to bash it for?

I never said you couldn't bash it, I just said it was a piss poor reason too.

 

[Life]

<3 PS2 and Norfair and Japes and really most of the stages in this game that don't involve circles or walkoffs

Meh about Picto, but it's a really good Sonic stage so I keep quiet

 

[ViperGold42]

<3 PS2 and Norfair and Japes and really most of the stages in this game that don't involve circles or walkoffs

Meh about Picto, but it's a really good Sonic stage so I keep quiet

what I don't understand is why the Dr. Mario theme is placed on that stage.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

what I don't understand is why the Dr. Mario theme is placed on that stage.

Sterile environment.

 

[ViperGold42]

Sterile environment.

awww never would have thought of that.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

infinite: So very floaty
M@v; Will do, cheers.

I never said you couldn't bash it, I just said it was a piss poor reason too.

Would you rather I bash it for something I like about it? lol.

 

[ViperGold42]

infinite: So very floaty
M@v; Will do, cheers.



Would you rather I bash it for something I like about it? lol.

Hey bash all you want brother, just have to a be good one instead of the same sorry excuse a lot of people make to ban a stage.

 

[Lukingordex]

what I don't understand is why the Dr. Mario theme is placed on that stage.

The Dr. Mario theme is useless in all the brawl mario stages,so they puted it in a useless brawl stage.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Actually, they probably just didn't want to leave the puzzle giant Panel de Pon (Tetris Attack, etc.) out of the game, and then decided it gave them an excuse to put the old Melee track in (Pictochat stage is for puzzle games).

 

[ViperGold42]

Actually, they probably just didn't want to leave the puzzle giant Panel de Pon (Tetris Attack, etc.) out of the game, and then decided it gave them an excuse to put the old Melee track in (Pictochat stage is for puzzle games).

oh now that's just sad that they did that, I guess Rainbow Cruise wasn't good enough.

 

[jigglover]

I don't care what other other people say, but this is what's worked for me. I will justify afterwards:
S: meta-knight, pikachu.
A: ice climbers, falco, yoshi, ike.
B: diddy kong, lucario, jigglypuff, pokemon trainer, toon link, peach, king dedede.
C: mr. game and watch, wolf, luigi.
D: fox, ROB, sonic, zero suit samus, pit, snake.
E: olimar, ness, lucas, kirby, mario, sheik.
F: Bowser, DK, samus, link, zelda/sheik
Z: marth, wario, zelda, captain falcon, ganondorf.

Jigglypuff: It can OHKO all three people at once if you time sing well. It has awsome charging moves including down+A to provide monumental knock-back on either sides of it. Rollout is especially good since unlike yoshi, you can hold down B for the power suited to you so it can be easier to control but less power, or harder to control, but more powerful.

Yoshi: 2nd highest jumper in the game marginally behind ganondorf on jump height. Can only be KO'd with a side-smash or edge-guard. For some reason it's classified as a heavy-weight - but it is just as fast (if not faster) as the light-weights, so all it does is provide less knock-back. Egg roll does major damage, and I don't care if the easy CPU in classic mode (seen on youtube) can't use it. Emphasis on EASY CPU! Can kill any advanced player in the game.

Pikachu: Putting pikachu in the S section is a border-line decision, but if your opponents get near you, l_l+B=+3 KO! It's final smash may be a little difficult to control, but if you practice on training, you will be as formidable as any meta-knight.

Meta-knight: I've never personally seen meta-knight's true potential, to be honest, but all media other than my brain says he's the best, so I'm going with the floe on that one.

Olimar: "Wait a minute while I pull this pikmin out of this cloud!" Pikachu says: " l_l+B." Olimar says: "Good star smash! NOT ON MNE THOUGH!" 'nough said.

Peach: I put peach higher for two reasons. 1: FRYING PANS F****** HURT. 2: Her side+B attack is formidable. Although her final smash and toad attack have a lot to be desired, I think the first two attacks are justifiable enough for a minor increase.

Ike: To be honest, Ike wouldn't be my character to pick, for the sole reason that he is not fast, and I like fast, but, if I get him when I do random, I make it work, since every one of his blows are OHKO right there.

Pokemon trainer: He has the best range of attacks in the game, period. My only concern is changing between the different pokemon. Say if your ivysaur and you need to change to squirtle to damage this fast pikachu, you need to go through charizard (get dealt at least 20% right there) and then wait for the lag from charizard to squirtle. For some reason it lags about 3x the amount from charizard to squirtle than the others, I don't know if that's the game relaying the three scripts or what. Final smash is brilliant - one of the best in the game, after all 'it's super effective.'

All pokemon have different specialities, squirtle is brilliant on the slower foes since, to put it simply, captain falcon says falcon punch, the quick squirtle jumps over it, then uses his l_l+B aerial to damge him. Ivysaur is brilliant at star KO's, namely it's bullet seed kills. Bullet seed grabs the foe then hurls it in the air and shoots it with seed-like bullets (or bullet-like seeds.) This isn't enough to get rid of him there, but then as he comes down, position yourself while he's helpless and use bullet seed again, boom! Star KO. Also has the best recovery with vine whip I think, it latches onto the edge rather than getting back on over the ledge for once, rendering edge-guarders useless. Honestly, Charizard I don't really use, i's too slow for my liking, but it's one of the strongest slow characters, so it can KO the likes of ganondorf and captain falcon a little better than squirtle, but squirtle is also good on the quick one's a comfort charizard does not have.

 

[jigglover]

Add on. If there are any others you would like me to justify, please ask.

 

[Zano]

I haven't seen a more obvious troll attempt in my life, holy **** man.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Jigglypuff: It can OHKO all three people at once if you time sing well.

Maybe Jigglover's tier list would have better meaning here if it was based on 1v1 instead of FFA/doubles as I'm guessing due to this comment.

 

[Dcold]

I haven't had a good laugh like that in a while, thank you.

 

[Luxord]

Seriously Zano, how ignorant?

I was like you, immediately thought troll, but then outta NOWHERE he gave us explanations to the placements. After that it all made sense, especially the parts with Pikachu's and PT's Final Smashes -> total justification for his list. I agree with jigglover.

S: meta-knight, pikachu.
A: ice climbers, falco, yoshi, ike.
B: diddy kong, lucario, jigglypuff, pokemon trainer, toon link, peach, king dedede.
C: mr. game and watch, wolf, luigi.
D: fox, ROB, sonic, zero suit samus, pit, snake.
E: olimar, ness, lucas, kirby, mario, sheik.
F: Bowser, DK, samus, link, zelda/sheik
Z: marth, wario, zelda, captain falcon, ganondorf.

JIGGLOVER FOR PRES
almost as good as dat Sethlon tier list
Also you said we can ask for other placements too right? Why is Sonic so high?

 

[jigglover]

Sonic might not have the best attacks, but he is the fastest on the game with a comfortable lead. I put him in the bottom half (#19) since none of his moves are good enough for a OHKO, but in a long-winded fight where everyone is getting dealt lots of damage, he can keep on dodging all of the attacks with his brilliant speed, then finish off his vulnerable 100% health competition with a quick charged punch. If somebody does manage to hit him and send him off though, he has a really good emergency recovery, a downside to it is that it leaves him helpless quite high up asking for a star KO. I'd personally want him higher but there are several downfalls that people higher on this tier can combat and kill him with, that's why he's quite high, but only #19.

 

[jigglover]

Maybe Jigglover's tier list would have better meaning here if it was based on 1v1 instead of FFA/doubles as I'm guessing due to this comment.

As I said earlier, this is based purely on my experience and what works for me - nothing else.

 

[Luxord]

Haha funny that those are your reasons for Sonic, same reasons for him being where he is now on the actual tier list bahahaha

Egg roll does major damage, and I don't care if the easy CPU in classic mode (seen on youtube) can't use it. Emphasis on EASY CPU! Can kill any advanced player in the game.

He even knows about the advanced Yoshi tech (OHKO Egg Roll on Frigate). Clearly jigglover has done his research.

 

[jigglover]

I've been trying different methods lately and I found Egg Roll on frigate really was effective, I always pick frigate online if I'm yoshi now.

 

[Luigi player]

the tierlist is not what you think it is.
it's not "what char one person is good with/has the most success with"

it's looking at a 1vs1 perspective with no items, and not really looking into specific people- it tries to rate the characters compared to all other characters and how well they can theoretically/practically (tournament results) do.


not saying your list is wrong, but it is something completely different than what is really discussed here

 

[Luxord]

I always pick frigate online

He's even versed in Wifi! WIFI WARRIOR JIGGLOVER 4 PREZ

@luigi player - what is your post...i don't even

 

[jigglover]

the tierlist is not what you think it is.
it's not "what char one person is good with/has the most success with"

it's looking at a 1vs1 perspective with no items, and not really looking into specific people- it tries to rate the characters compared to all other characters and how well they can theoretically/practically (tournament results) do.


not saying your list is wrong, but it is something completely different than what is really discussed here

It's not completely my opinion, as I said earlier, I'd personally like meta-knight, but he's still #1. I also based it on use online and how effective other people use it also. It's just that I include these things in my past experience.

 

[-LzR-]

You guys are seriously ******** to even to reply to such an obvious troll probably copy+pasted from some old 08 post.

 

[jigglover]

You guys are seriously ******** to even to reply to such an obvious troll probably copy+pasted from some old 08 post.

It's not a troll! Why does everyone keep saying that. I just wanted to say my opinion and say why the v7 one is incorrect in many aspects. I'm not somebody that trolls. I don't like trollers!

 

[Lukingordex]

Yoshi: Highest jumper in the game. Can only be KO'd with a side-smash or edge-guard. For some reason it's classified as a heavy-weight - but it is just as fast (if not faster) as the light-weights, so all it does is provide less knock-back. Egg roll does major damage, and I don't care if the easy CPU in classic mode (seen on youtube) can't use it. Emphasis on EASY CPU! Can kill any advanced player in the game.

actually,Yoshi is the 2nd highest jumper in the game.

 

[Luxord]

You guys are seriously ******** to even to reply to such an obvious troll probably copy+pasted from some old 08 post.

You're seriously ******** to even think that I'm responding with any seriousness.
And obvious troll, orlynow. Thank you oh great LzR for informing me of that, I guess all my faces didn't give away I knew it. Jigglover seems smarter than you based on your post, sigh.

 

[jigglover]

actually,Yoshi is the 2nd highest jumper in the game.

Pretty much the highest jumper in the game then. That doesn't make any sense though, he can recover back on stage from getting damage off screen from the bottom. Also, he jumpy freaking high in mario too! Who's the highest, (don't say anyone from the star fox series, yoshi jumps higher than them with in the peak of it's first jump not including recovery moves.)

 

[Luxord]

Pretty much the highest jumper in the game then. That doesn't make any sense though, he can recover back on stage from getting damage off screen from the bottom. Also, he jumpy freaking high in mario too! Who's the highest, (don't say anyone from the star fox series, yoshi jumps higher than them with in the peak of it's first jump not including recovery moves.)

I think it would be Ganon who Lukinhass is thinking of for the first highest jump. At his peak of first jump Ganon is indeed above Yoshi in height

 

[Lukingordex]

Pretty much the highest jumper in the game then. That doesn't make any sense though, he can recover back on stage from getting damage off screen from the bottom. Also, he jumpy freaking high in mario too! Who's the highest, (don't say anyone from the star fox series, yoshi jumps higher than them with in the peak of it's first jump not including recovery moves.)

Mario the highest jumper??

 

[jigglover]

Mario the highest jumper??

No - he's a freaking high in the mario series of games.

 

[jigglover]

Just noticed something. Three from the pokemon series are side by side: Lucario, Jigglypuff then PT!

 

[jigglover]

Also another reason to justify jigglypuff, I know there hasn't been any criticism in that area but I just want to avoid it altogether. Pretty much guaranteed 3 KO's if you use puff up.

 

[Lukingordex]

Can you just edit your post?

you triple posted lol

 

[jigglover]

oh... um, I forgot you could do that. I only found out this site existed today. That tier list was my first post on here.

 

[Lukingordex]

No - he's a freaking high in the mario series of games.

We are talking about Mario in Brawl,not in Mario series.

 

[-LzR-]

You're seriously ******** to even think that I'm responding with any seriousness.
And obvious troll, orlynow. Thank you oh great LzR for informing me of that, I guess all my faces didn't give away I knew it. Jigglover seems smarter than you based on your post, sigh.

You are seriously ******** to think I seriously thought you were ********. Sup

 

[jigglover]

We are talking about Mario in Brawl,not in Mario series.

I know. I was just using it as a reference. Could we drop the matter now?

 

[jigglover]

You are seriously ******** to think I seriously thought you were ********. Sup

Is ******** your word of the day or something, stop calling it everybody...