Official BBR Tier List v5

[-Jumpman-]

Okay, then how should we start working Brazilian results into the tier list? :/

I only think they should be separate because they don't interact with each other enough and are more or less kept separate anyways by oceans

Enough for what?

 

[Steam]

Enough to gauge how their results should be weighed vs. Other regions. You could just as easily cite brazil instead of Japan... And while IMO Japan is better than brazil it's still running on assumptions

 

[Browny]

*dead* at sheik being as viable as Lucario

 

[Steam]

It's k browny, both characters are booty

 

[-Jumpman-]

Enough to gauge how their results should be weighed vs. Other regions. You could just as easily cite brazil instead of Japan... And while IMO Japan is better than brazil it's still running on assumptions

What makes those results less important than those from the US?

 

[Ripple]

inb4 nothing is important or everything is equally important

 

[Steam]

It doesn't. But what makes Japan's better than Brazil's? We can't accurately assess every scene so we can't really know how to use them. And weighing them all equally is a bad idea for a number of reasons. That's why I think it's best to stick with multiple tier lists... It gets rid of this problem...

 

[Ripple]

inb4 each region needs one

 

[-Jumpman-]

It doesn't. But what makes Japan's better than Brazil's? We can't accurately assess every scene so we can't really know how to use them. And weighing them all equally is a bad idea for a number of regions. That's why I think it's best to stick with multiple tier lists... It gets rid of this problem...

If anything Apex has proven that we cannot underestimate Japan and that their skill equals or exceeds yours. The importance of their results might be greater than yours.

 

[Ripple]

If anything Apex has proven that we cannot underestimate Japan and that their skill equals or exceeds yours. The importance of their results might be greater than yours.

with the personal insult!

-3 cool points

 

[Steam]

@ripple- yeah pretty much as long as they're isolated

@jumpman- Its one tourney, but it was pretty showing, and their results in it should definitely be considered. Though we don't mix enough for results just be openly used. I personally think Japan is roughly equal to the us. But that's just my opinion.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Until you Wake up and see the cold hearted truth that Meta knight is sitting next to wolf...

I won one match with Mk. Just one. Everyone went Pikachu vs me at least once (Beat all of them with Wolf). I only won with Mk one round in winner's finals vs Blue Rogue's Wario.

 

[juiey2]

When is the new tier list coming up?

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

inb4 each region needs one

I wanted to mention the same for state and maybe local, but that might be stretching it.

 

[Ripple]

When is the new tier list coming up?

tomorrow.

10tierlists

 

[Conviction]

Tomorrow the salt will spill.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I do agree with Gheb that we should consider other countries. Regardless of what anyone wants to assume of player skill and such, which is mostly theory, everyone is equal in opinion and representation, no one should be excluded due to location.

 

[Pikabunz]

I won one match with Mk. Just one. Everyone went Pikachu vs me at least once (Beat all of them with Wolf). I only won with Mk one round in winner's finals vs Blue Rogue's Wario.

lol, gj slaying those pocket Pikas.

 

[Browny]

*except Australia RedRyu

 

[Nidtendofreak]

I do agree with Gheb that we should consider other countries. Regardless of what anyone wants to assume of player skill and such, which is mostly theory, everyone is equal in opinion and representation, no one should be excluded due to location.

To me, it has nothing to do with difference in player skill as much as difference in mindset and ruleset...there is a point where you're no longer comparing apples to apples and the differences affect character choices/how sets play out and thus change the MU ratios. IMO, Japan is too different in both areas.

The fact that we can't ask them about anything doesn't help either.

 

[Exdeath]

The fact that we can't ask them about anything doesn't help either.

Some native-Japanese speakers speak English and some native-English speakers speak Japanese. Regardless, translators allow limited communications on both fronts.

 

[Conviction]

I wish I remember the Japanese website so I could go and talk T.T

 

[Ripple]

おはいお iblis

 

[archer.]

It's actually おはよ (ohayo).

 

[Nidtendofreak]

Some native-Japanese speakers speak English and some native-English speakers speak Japanese. Regardless, translators allow limited communications on both fronts.

Too limited. I remember one guy on Smashboards who was in Japan for a while, but that's about it.

 

[Ripple]

good to know. I've only taken 1 yeah. didn't actually learn that for some reason. just guessed

 

[Conviction]

Too limited. I remember one guy on Smashboards who was in Japan for a while, but that's about it.

Does anyone have the link to the Japanese site?

おはいお iblis

こんばんは リップル.

It's actually おはよ (ohayo).

Yeah, but it's nighttime so it's Konban wa or Oyasumi

 

[archer.]

Japanese is easy at first (or at least it was for me). Once I got past the first year though it got a lot harder.

 

[Conviction]

It comes naturally to me

 

[archer.]

I mean the grammar itself isn't that hard once you get used to all of its intricacies, and learning new phrases and such comes pretty easily. It's mostly the kanji (you know, the ridiculous amounts of it) that gets me.

 

[Conviction]

Ah YEAH, 2000 kanji and more coming with each import from China

 

[Fuujin]

Weeaboos, Weeaboos everywhere.

 

[Conviction]

Weeaboos, Weeaboos everywhere.

I thought we had this discussion before dog No room to talk LOL

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I wanted to learn Japanese, but then I realized I sucked with learning foreign languages.

 

[Conviction]

Might want to try and pick it up anyways.

 

[Browny]

learn chinese instead, its the only other language besides english which will matter in the future

 

[Jimmyfosho]

I wanted to learn Japanese, but then I realized I sucked with learning foreign languages.

this. I learned this when i got kicked out of spanish 3 class twice. lol

 

[Deleted member]

I wanted to learn Japanese, but then I realized I sucked with learning foreign languages.

Same here.

I took two years of Japanese and it was easy the first year, but by the end of that second year, I was struggling. It just got too difficult and I lost the confidence to continue.

 

[Conviction]

Wow ._. LOL

 

[stingers]

jd knows japanese? nice