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obama and soft core socialism?

BBQTV

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i hsve been hearing people say that obama is making soft core socialism, whst does that mean also what is socialism?

also my dad before obama even got elected said that obama is a full out communist

why do they say this?
 

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Because he's a democrat and that makes you a socialist by default.

Also, I don't really see what's wrong with soft-core socialism.
 

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what is socialism?

so i can know if it's good or bad
 

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Socialism is the idea of government controlled enterprise and greater equality among the general population.

Basically the Western world's greatest nightmare, since all our interests are in private corporations.

Honestly there's nothing wrong with socialism, because at the end of the day, people will still be scum no matter what the system is.
 

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according to some people obama is do a lighter softer version of that

so since the government controls some stuff my dad thought it he was communist based on that?

i think their is a bit more too it
 

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according to some people obama is do a lighter softer version of that

so since the government controls some stuff my dad thought it he was communist based on that?

i think their is a bit more too it
Sounds like your dad is a right-wing lunatic.

There are different levels of socialism. Communism is the most extreme version of socialism where there is complete government control over everything (at least in theory). There is literally no such thing as private property in a communist world. Everyone is completely equal. This is when socialism becomes a problem; just like with anything else, it doesn't become feasible at all when something is taken to the extreme.

I say this because the U.S. is somewhat of a mix between capitalism and socialism. Private businesses can do what they want within reasonable boundaries (that's the capitalist part), but they are still restricted by the government in some ways -- businesses are required to pay minimum wage to their workers for example (that's the socialism part).

Also, if your day says that capitalism is a perfect system don't listen to him. It isn't. Just like socialism, if you take capitalism to the extreme, you get almost the same result as communism. Instead of the government telling you what you can and can't do, you have a gigantic corporation doing just that lol.
 

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What are people so afraid of? Obama is not going to turn USA into the Soviet Union.
USA was basically founded on the idea that every man takes care of himself, and for some reason this idea is still pervasive in the American society. In modern times, however, there's nothing wrong with helping each other out if you can afford it. This is not communism.
 

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my dad is from cuba and said that he knows how communism works (or something) and said that he came to america to escape that **** and knows he has to deal wuth it again because of obama

what is obama doing lol or is my dad a crazy
 

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my dad is from cuba and said that he knows how communism works (or something) and said that he came to america to escape that **** and knows he has to deal wuth it again because of obama

what is obama doing lol or is my dad a crazy
Your dad is being very irrational. Fleeing from an extreme ideology does not mean that you have to go to the polar opposite. USA is NOT going to turn into Cold War era Cuba.
 

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Socialism is evil!

Because they are socialist and evil, we need to get rid of public schools, government-maintained roads like interstates, government departments like the FDA, and state-owned hospitals!

Those are just a few examples of how socialism is deeply rooted in American society! We must purge the evil from our great nation, and anyone who supports any of those things is a communist, terrorist, and anti-american!
 

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Socialism is evil!

Because they are socialist and evil, we need to get rid of public schools, government-maintained roads like interstates, government departments like the FDA, and state-owned hospitals!

Those are just a few examples of how socialism is deeply rooted in American society! We must purge the evil from our great nation, and anyone who supports any of those things is a communist, terrorist, and anti-american!
That reminds me...



Basically, there's a lot more socialism in America than what most people think.

Of course, the Rush Limbaughs, Ann Coulters, Michael Savages, Sean Hannitys, and Bill O'Reillys of the world would dismiss such a thing as "liberal propaganda". :urg:

EDIT: Apologies for the page stretch >_>
 
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Yeah, your dad is being irrational.

It's clear that at this point, if you have to use a monetary system (go see Zeitgeist), the best solution is a mixture between capitalism and socialism, where government power balances out corporate power.
 

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Basically the whole scare tactic is that people can't distinguish economic socialism from having a totalitarian society where the govt. controls social freedoms, which is also called socialism. Democrats practice the former, but hard-core Republicans associate them with both.
 

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Believe me guys, soft core socialism is the best system there is.

Our lifes are not all about money, like the republicans think.

If you have a lot of money you aren't a winner.

If you have no money, you arent a loser.

thats basically it
 

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I think there's a lot of people smarter/more informed than you or me on opposite sides of the "Is money really valuable" spectrum. I plan to experience both and decide which I like best. So far, I'm agreeing with you though. Eating a PB+J after a week of Ramen feels just as good as eating a filet mignon after a week of restaurant food.

I think I'm a Buddhist.
 

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Ignorance, basically. Obama's not a communist, and McCain wasn't Bush 3.0. If he was, he would have won, cuz the Bush's never lose.
 
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