WouW
Smash Lord
Your Wall of Fire attacks are annoying me.Okau, Wouw, get off of my case and actually read what's being said, or just shut up. Honestly. This is probably my smallest Wall of Text attack yet, but here goes. *fires*
Neither did I. It is more effective, yes - but not vulnerable. Besides, anything with the only two moves to hit Ttar being Fire and Ice just sounds stupid. I searched a bit on Smogon, but I saw no Fire/Ice combo. Also, with Sandstorm Tyranitar actually resists special Ice, so yeah.I never said that I could super-effective-kill Tyranitar with an Ice-Attack. What was said is that it takes MORE DAMAGE from Ice than it does from Fire.
This is what you posted under your list. Tyranitar isn't 'vunerable' to Ice. It resists it.Da-D-Mon-109 said:felt like color-cordinating the pokemon in the OU tier who are vunerable to Fire and who are vunerable to Ice.
Also, now don't come up yet again with 'fire is still less effective' because there are over hundred pokés which resist one type more than another and it would be stupid to list all of that.
You know what the negative thing is about Hyper Beam? You kill one thing and then I bring out my sweeper, get a free SD and **** your entire team. It's why Hyper Beam is sparsely used.And dude, once I get my game back, I'd personally like to battle you and see just how badly my team gets ***** when I 1 hit kill anything in my path with Hyperbeam.![]()
Also, go get Shoddy.
Any difference?Quite a few times Lucario has lived just enough through an Earthquake to respond with Ice-Punch or Dragonpulse, and then end it with Extremespeed. A few times, it's been able to just 1 hit kill with Ice-Punch before the Garchomp can even quake. Again, stop using your computer simulations, pick up the Ds, do the work and calculations for yourself, and then tell me what you think.
Again, is there any difference? There's outpredicting, but there's also common sense. When I have Zapdos, and there's a Gyarados next to me I just Bolt. I don't care if it switches out - it is, in a way, the safest options. Learn to play.I'm not going to get my butt bolted when your Zapdos is trying to pick the stones and/or ice out of it's butt. Again, stop the friggin simluations and actually play the game.
What about the combo of Fire Blast and Draco Meteor? Fire Blasts a large chunk of its health away, and cleans off the rest with Draco Meteor/another Fire Blast. You're not going to get a second Ice Shard kill it.And yeah, it can eat both Draco-meteors and still use it's Ice-Shard. The 3rd or any other doesn't matter though, since it's already hit with a 2nd Ice-shard, or killed the turn of the 2nd meteor or Earthquake for that matter, by using Avalance.
I just have my Bronzong in the back to **** your swine anyway.True I can't predict your type of chomper, but I can still use my Mamoswine for great effect against them. And you really can't predict what stats my Mamoswine will have either, so you don't really know how you'd try to deal with it.![]()
I calced, and a max/max sassy Mamoswine has less than 10% chance of surviving two Fire Blasts.I''ve found another type that deals with specifc special sweepers, and with a Sassy nature and spread out evs in special defense, hp, attack and defense, it is STILL capable of living through both a Fireblast and Draco Meteor. Again, the 3rd move wouldn't matter, since it would be dead by then due to either Avalance or Ice-Shard.
And now what if your opponent Chomp is the more common physical variant? It gets *****. Sure, you can have three Mamoswines, but you can only use one at a time. You can't predict what Chomp I have. Yeah, neither can't I guess which your Mamoswines are, but, do I even have to care?
Garchomp isn't too weak defensively. Granted, it's not a good wall, but can live through a non-ice hit or two.Ah, but the beauty of it is that there are others that do the job JUST as well. Infact, Ice-Shard and Avalance aren't even really required. Solid defenses with good priority moves, and or a good "hit me and I'll double damage smack you back" move can do the job quite as well.
If either Sandstorm or Stealth Rock is up, it's not going to live through two outrages - and that's with max Def and HP. Aqua Jet doesn't even do significant damage.I kinda like Blastoice for not being vunerable to any of the specific attacks, having Avalance, and being able to use Stab Aqua Jet.
Dusknoir can also get 2HKOed in Sandstorm or Stealth Rock. (with max/max defenses.) Meanwhile, Shadow Sneak and even boosted Payback don't deal significant damage.Dusnkoir is also good, with Willo-wisp, Shadow Punch, Payback, and Pain-Split. It just depends on your situatiion, but there's lots of ways to win.
Gets ***** by Ice Shard when? ***** because it lost a berry when ****** your poké? Yay. It has done its job. Maybe when you don't have a Mamo anymore I can use it to finish the rest of your team, despite being '*****'.And dude, after it gets ***** by Ice-Shard to the point where it's crippled, it's not going to kill anything else. It would get murked even harder by the several different species of pokemon that move faster than it and punish it. The Ice-Sharders or Avalancers can get the job done alone, and assuming by some black-magic or cheat that it some how survives, it will be at the point where even UU pokemon can switch in and finish the job. The priority and damage-taking-attack-doubling Pokemon all can do quite a good job of punishing Garchomp, some of them even necesiating 3 hit kills. And by then, Garchomp is no more. I believe that THAT is how Countering works. Again, get your butt up off of the computer, go walk around outside, pick the rusty Ds out of your pocket, put a Pokemon game inside of it, and actually PLAY it. You'd be surprised what you can learn by doing so.
Also, you're completely ignoring the Yache berry. Ice Shard or unboosted Avalanche don't kill it right away. Also, if I got two hits on you and you're about to finish my Chomp off, what do I do? I just switch out. There goes your plan of beating Garchomp, especially since you have less than half your health left.
Yes, countering works like that but then again, it's not a OHKO so i could just switch out to safety. (Assuming I'm not trapped in Outrage.)
Again, get your brains functioning, start your internet browser, download Shoddy and actually PLAY it. You'd be surprised what you can learn by doing so.
Also, I do play the actual games as well.
Gratz if you manage to get hail off in OU. This isn't UU.Ps. Anything defensive with Hail and Blizzard can also get the job done right. It just takes a little experimenting. There are lots of other ways to do so as well.