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No he didn't.lol he overated pit alot XD
Wait, Samus ever had KO moves?6.) Samus is my SSBM Main but she was definitely not 8/10 in Melee.
Would you say compared to the whole cast she is buffed (Melee Samus vs Brawl Samus)
My impression is that she is nerfed in many ways.
-Weaker charge beam! (in ssbm it was a great ko move)
-It's harder to hit with missles, and the knockback is heavily reduced.
-Samus Jump/Return abilitity was good in ssbm in ssbb it's only avarage compared to the whole cast
-FSmash is weaker
-Airial combat suffers from nerfed Nair
Summarized: Samus range combat is nerfed quite bad and her ko moves are weaker.
Improvements? I see none.
I wish she would be better than in melee but I don't see any buffs...
Hi I think you know my friend, he used to ask you for zelda advice over youtube and smashboards. flame_overlord?I'm glad that Zelda has improved. I'm hoping it won't be long before I'm able to consistently sweetspot her pickier lightning kick.
itsnt the fact he just played an hour but the list of changes that he noticed while doing so that makes mario better than his melee counterpart...anyway....i....,just like u, will get the game soon so i will test for myself...Thanks for all the feed back.
Although GimpyFish is an awesome player, It's hard to listen to his advice on a gam he played for a total of an hour, while I have almost 40.
Mario's score is staying the same until I see it should go up. We're testing him now.
Yes sir, I do believe that name sounds familiar.Hi I think you know my friend, he used to ask you for zelda advice over youtube and smashboards. flame_overlord?
@phootbagWait, Samus ever had KO moves?
I think Diem, you're going to see a lot of disagreements from Samus mains here, because Samus' range game has been nerfed pretty badly, and she relies on it for a lot of her set ups. Fair and Uair are fairly useless without missiles, and most characters can just duck under canceled missiles now. Her nair, which was her most ubiquitous aerial, has been nerfed. Now her approach seems limited to JBT'd bairs, because that's her only move with any KO potential.
I think you should switch her with Zamus. From what I've seen, Zamus has a lot of powerful moves, decent combo ability, and and a third jump, all things that you've said she doesn't have. Care to enlighten me as to why you see things this way?
It's true, he does lack KO. His moves that do, however, do well. This, combined with multiple backairs off the stage, can kill at low percents.1.) Pit 9/10 I agree for sure that Pit is good.
But wouldn't you say that Pit lacks good ko moves?
And has Pit problemes to connect with his moves? On many videos it seems like its hard to hit the enemy with many attacks.
Fsmash, D smash, Shine, Bair, SideB. He's a monster.2.) Wolf 9.5/10
Has wolf got any ko moves?
On most videos again it seemed like Wolf wouldn't be able to ko anyone reliable even if the enemy% are quite high.
Diddy has three usable spikes. His banana game can chain people into almost any attack. He has the peanut gun for off the level edge guarding. His moves has NASTY priority, and speed. All smashes KO.3.) Diddy looks good but 10/10?
You say he is strong: Which attacks are strong?
How is his ko ability?
Good. All of them. lolz4.) R.O.B.
How are his smashes? To slow? Which of his moves are strong enough to ko?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=siMtxG5SJss5.) Ike
Many people criticize Ike as to slow you not :D
Are some of his attacks quick enough to connect reliable? Or is the impression of to slow false in general?
While she has been slightly nerfed, the game has slowed down, while she has not. He pace is more than enough to keep up with the spacies, without being Wes.6.) Samus is my SSBM Main but she was definitely not 8/10 in Melee.
Would you say compared to the whole cast she is buffed (Melee Samus vs Brawl Samus)
-Faster to charge. The missile cancel keeps kood distance from it this time, so it's two separate hits.My impression is that she is nerfed in many ways.
-Weaker charge beam! (in ssbm it was a great ko move)
-It's harder to hit with missles, and the knockback is heavily reduced.
-Samus Jump/Return abilitity was good in ssbm in ssbb it's only avarage compared to the whole cast
-FSmash is weaker
-Airial combat suffers from nerfed Nair
Diddy or lucasWho's a good fast character that isn't one of the Fox Triples or Marth?
I need a fast main if Dedede and R.O.B. are slow...
I was talking to Diem. I quoted you mostly to make the Samus kill moves joke. I'm a Samus main, so I'm allowed to knock her.But is the part about switching to Zamus directed at me?
If so: I thught about it but im not sure. Zamus is nice but its not my Samus in the shiny Suit and not the range combat queen i loved....
I've had the game since the 30th. I have played it dawn to dusk everyday for a week. I have 75 hours logged, kid, I know my ****. I make ratings updates as I find them, and regardless, it's my opinion. I've played every character in the game for at least an hour, and can see their starting potential. Don't assume I'm biased, because I HATE spacies, but I explain how they're still great.Umm... this may just be me, but this seems biased..........especially when NOBODY has ANY right to rate the characters unless you live in Japan and have played the game or imported it. Seriously guys, it's called PLAY-ING THE GAME!! Sure, everybody wants their character to be good or whatever, but you have NO right deciding which characters are good based off of videos. I mean, you can get a small idea, but I gaurantee that alot of the characters are better than they seem, and/or will get better with years as the metagame broadens. STOP DEBATING CHARACTERS UNLESS YOU HAVE PLAYED THE GAME!!! And still only then if you have put massive time into EACH AND EVERY CHARACTER, which is impossible since it hasn't even been out for a week, let alone in the hands of any country except Japan.
Uhh... if this is directed at the thread creator, then he definitely *does* have the game and he *has* been playing it a heck of a lot over the past few days.words