No wired input.. How will we have large scale tournaments?

[Zonderion]

That's......kinda sad, tbh.
I'd have thought that we, as a community, would be able to police ourselves by doing our part to keep an eye out for such things.
Especially if we're nearby the equipment....

I wish that were the case. I really do. But I don't see any TOs putting up $500 for 10 controllers just to have half of em go missing. I think anyone would appreciate that, but some people have just been raised to look out for themselves and they don't typically care about other people or their things.

 

[smashbrolink]

I wish that were the case. I really do. But I don't see any TOs putting up $500 for 10 controllers just to have half of em go missing. I think anyone would appreciate that, but some people have just been raised to look out for themselves and they don't typically care about other people or their things.

Well, ****, invite me next time.
Not even for competing; grant me free admittance and some sort of guarantee that there'll be at least a token force of people watching over stuff, and I'll go to the next EVO smash up just to donate gear to the event!XD

 

[Zonderion]

Well, ****, invite me next time.
Not even for competing; grant me free admittance and some sort of guarantee that there'll be at least a token force of people watching over stuff, and I'll go to the next EVO smash up just to donate gear to the event!XD

I'd be all for that. We need people to step up and help TOs.

 

[Yobolight]

Well I guess there won't be any tournaments for Smash 4.....pity

 

[nat pagle]

Well I guess there won't be any tournaments for Smash 4.....pity

http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

 

[Zonderion]

It is going to be something that TOs will have to consider for sure. It could be that Sm4sh tournaments can only have a certain # of people, or have a certain # of setups active at one time.

 

[EverythingSmash]

We could all pray for a wired controller to come out, but then again theres only two usb ports so that only fixes 1 vs. 1 matches.

 

[LiteTheIronMan]

We could all pray for a wired controller to come out, but then again theres only two usb ports so that only fixes 1 vs. 1 matches.

no, there's four. two in front, two in back. two are right next to the SD card slot and two are next to the power supply/HDMI ports

 

[LiteralGrill]

Think of Smash 3DS tournaments, those should be fun to figure out...

 

[EverythingSmash]

no, there's four. two in front, two in back. two are right next to the SD card slot and two are next to the power supply/HDMI ports

Oh my bad! Haha, thanks for the heads up. Never looked at the back of my wii u

 

[EverythingSmash]

Think of Smash 3DS tournaments, those should be fun to figure out...

Maybe old fashion link cables?

 

[Zonderion]

I don't have a 3DS, but I would assume that the easiest would be to have several numbered two person tables set up (preferably near outlets) and the players choose to add a local friend and once the list populates with all the 3DSs in the room, you just ask the person sitting across from you what their tag is on their 3DS.

 

[Molten Lava]

the way that i see it is, we're kinda banking on nintendo releasing a wired version of the pro controller, but honestly, that's not unlikely. from now until SSB4's release is a looong time for them to release a type of controller. the four USB ports mean that the same type of play is readily available (1v1 and 2v2s), and it'll be practically the same thing. nothing to worry about.

if any issue is present, it'll be that the Wii U will have to take time to sync the controllers when plugged in, rather than the immediate port recognition we have now, which we'll just have to get over

 

[Molten Lava]

-double post-

 

[nat pagle]

Is there any word on an adapter?

 

[Molten Lava]

Is there any word on an adapter?

Yes. There are adapters for WiiMotes apparently and from what I hear they are 100% lagless. however this doesn't really address the issue of frequency interference.

 

[xDD-Master]

I am worried

 

[RODO]

Plenty of time to figure all of this out

 

[ScubaF_ingSteve]

Think of Smash 3DS tournaments, those should be fun to figure out...

Pokemon does it with their VGC series. I can even argue that the 3ds version will be EASIER to play on a large scale than the WiiU version if the issue of wireless controllers isn't fixed. If you're curious, look up how pokemon currently does it on DS, which they'll be continuing with XY this season.

 

[Black Mantis]

Yes. There are adapters for WiiMotes apparently and from what I hear they are 100% lagless. however this doesn't really address the issue of frequency interference.

links??????

 

[Zonderion]

links??????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiN-Fi9peA

 

[Iwan]

*double post*

 

[Iwan]

Praxis brought this up a while ago and I don't see any immediate solution to the problem :/.

Someone mentioned tethering controllers to each console, and having tournament participants handing over their driver's license upon entering a venue. As lame as that sounds, that may be the only thing I can think of, and that sucks. Huge inconvenience for the TOs (that adds a lot to set up imo), and an inconvenience for the people attending tournaments as well...

This is why I have a hard time believing Sundance/MLG and Nintendo have already been talking about a mutual interest to have the game on the Pro Circuit. If Nintendo was behind that, this wouldn't be an issue going forward...

 

[Zonderion]

Praxis brought this up a while ago and I don't see any immediate solution to the problem :/.

Someone mentioned tethering controllers to each console, and having tournament participants handing over their driver's license upon entering a venue. As lame as that sounds, that may be the only thing I can think of, and that sucks. Huge inconvenience for the TOs (that adds a lot to set up imo), and an inconvenience for the people attending tournaments as well...

This is why I have a hard time believing Sundance/MLG and Nintendo have already been talking about a mutual interest to have the game on the Pro Circuit. If Nintendo was behind that, this wouldn't be an issue going forward...

We also have to keep in mind that at the moment tethering the cords to the Wii U does nothing more than charge the controllers. They don't function as a "wired" controller when plugged in. Nintendo should be able to add that support in, but I don't think its a big deal to them. Unless of course this MLG thing requires them to do it.

 

[Big-Cat]

We also have to keep in mind that at the moment tethering the cords to the Wii U does nothing more than charge the controllers. They don't function as a "wired" controller when plugged in. Nintendo should be able to add that support in, but I don't think its a big deal to them. Unless of course this MLG thing requires them to do it.

The way I see it, either the fans or MLG will push for wired controller support. Now can anyone tell me if other console games at MLG use only wired controllers?

 

[Calzum!]

Uh, I could definitely see how 700+ wireless controllers in a room could be a problem. There's a reason why wireless controllers are banned in large scale events, the controller setup and syncing/resyncing is much more of an issue than interference is.

>imply they'd be a 700+ turnout for Brawl2.0

you're a funny guy man, i like you

 

[Bowser D.X]

Well with Nintendo releasing the 2DS a wired controller isn't that far-fetched. Also if there can't be a tournament scene for Smash U it could thrive online assuming Smash U has good online.

 

[Iwan]

Well with Nintendo releasing the 2DS a wired controller isn't that far-fetched. Also if there can't be a tournament scene for Smash U it could thrive online assuming Smash U has good online.

But jesus is Brawl's online an effing joke. Don't see how we can assume the next one will be any better. Mind you, this is with Brawl playing at a snail's pace...what if they actually make Smash Bros Wii U, you know, fast with a cool physics engine that allows for some of the craziness of melee? Unless the online play is REAL good, nearly any amount of input lag is just going to completely screw all of us over.

If this game is going to thrive online, they better nail it.

 

[Bowser D.X]

But jesus is Brawl's online an effing joke. Don't see how we can assume the next one will be any better. Mind you, this is with Brawl playing at a snail's pace...what if they actually make Smash Bros Wii U, you know, fast with a cool physics engine that allows for some of the craziness of melee? Unless the online play is REAL good, nearly any amount of input lag is just going to completely screw all of us over.

If this game is going to thrive online, they better nail it.

I'm sure they've learned from their mistake and Mario Kart DS and Wii have shown Nintendo can do good online.

 

[Big-Cat]

I'm sure they've learned from their mistake and Mario Kart DS and Wii have shown Nintendo can do good online.

Not necessarily. The thing with those games is that there are a lot fewer buttons to press in a racing game than in any fighting game.

 

[unwelc0med]

i think i saw a gamecube to wii u port on amazon?

 

[Zonderion]

Not necessarily. The thing with those games is that there are a lot fewer buttons to press in a racing game than in any fighting game.

This is very true. I have played COD online with the Wii U and I didn't notice any lag whatsoever.

 

[Zodiac]

Again; why not just have the tournament sponsors have a standard set of controllers per system for competitors to use instead of allowing them to use their own?
That would cut down on the problems by a significant margin, I would think, and I doubt it would really cause that much of an issue for them to use a pro controller other than their own....

People will break them

 

[Zodiac]

Again; why not just have the tournament sponsors have a standard set of controllers per system for competitors to use instead of allowing them to use their own?
That would cut down on the problems by a significant margin, I would think, and I doubt it would really cause that much of an issue for them to use a pro controller other than their own....

People will break them (Cool smashboards, double post)

 

[Heefe]

Connect 4 Wii U's and each plays on the Wii U Controller Screen! :D

 

[Fenrir VII]

Tekken for Wii U has fine online play... some lag here and there, and some lagless matches.. No reason that should be much different for Smash, so I don't think nintendo/Namco have an excuse if Smash's online is bad...


Also, Brawl online worked pretty well for me, but only when playing with set friends who knew how to configure their routers...

 

[Zonderion]

Connect 4 Wii U's and each plays on the Wii U Controller Screen! :D

I smell troll bait...

 

[the_suicide_fox]

If the Wii U has some sort of controller boot system that would solve a lot of issues. OR if the controller uses a detachable battery it would probably work something like the 360 controller. On 360 you can remove the battery and use plug'n'play as a pseudo-wired controller. It still communicates wirelessly but because it can only be powered when plugged in you won't have sync issues.

Otherwise TO's will need to strictly enforce desyncing controllers. The only hope really is that Big N releases a wired version of the Pro.

 

[Zonderion]

If the Wii U has some sort of controller boot system that would solve a lot of issues. OR if the controller uses a detachable battery it would probably work something like the 360 controller. On 360 you can remove the battery and use plug'n'play as a pseudo-wired controller. It still communicates wirelessly but because it can only be powered when plugged in you won't have sync issues.

Otherwise TO's will need to strictly enforce desyncing controllers. The only hope really is that Big N releases a wired version of the Pro.

They'd be better releasing a software update. I've already bought 2 Pros and I don't want to have to buy a wired.

 

[Morbi]

The only option is for us to petition Nintendo to make the Wii U compatible with the Gamecube controller!