NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

[Burb]

Shantae: Male mii wear Shantae costume? lol nope

Why not? Nintendo has been promoting the idea of men and women wearing clothing traditionally intended to be worn by the other sex for years now.

Games like Tomodachi Life, Animal Crossing, and Zelda: TriForce Heroes allow it. Even SSB4 currently does; the Isabelle costume can be worn by male Mii Fighters, as can every traditionally female wig and head accessory.

or would they just say "take a costume" after all of those years of waiting?

You say that as if you have a choice in the matter.

In the event he was made a costume, that would be it, you'd be getting a costume. There's no "That's not good enough, Sakurai! Give us a character!".

 

[Cutie Gwen]

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This means that you missed virtua fighter/splatoon song on wave 2 trailer.

Also bless your mouth.

I remembered the main Smash theme there

 

[Spazzy_D]

Yeah, but it's still based off a character already in the game.

There's still no precedent for a character being a Mii Fighter costume first and then getting upgraded to a fully playable character, and at least two of the costumes we've gotten are from characters who were turned down from the main roster.

I mostly agree with you since it makes sense to me, but there's also no stated rule that says having a costume effects a character's chances negatively. There has been very little precedence set with DLC in general, so It's all (logical) supposition.

 

[Strofirko]

I made my first poll

http://strawpoll.me/5080907
Its about the mii costumes.

 

[MasterofMonster]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/30/ign-plays-live-presents-super-mario-maker?watch=true

So, does this start very soon, or am I getting time zones and whatnot super wrong as usual?

Terribly sorry to ask.

 

[Schnee117]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/30/ign-plays-live-presents-super-mario-maker?watch=true

So, does this start very soon, or am I getting time zones and whatnot super wrong as usual?

Terribly sorry to ask.

It starts in about 6/7 hours. Nearly 3pm in the UK atm but we're on BST because **** employers in the olden days.

 

[SlickWylde]

Well well well, look who was right about nothing "notable" being announced!

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

I made my first poll

http://strawpoll.me/5080907
Its about the mii costumes.

Ya'll are too optimistic about this stuff.

 

[MasterofMonster]

It starts in about 6/7 hours. Nearly 3pm in the UK atm but we're on BST because **** employers in the olden days.

Ehh? That is so late. Crud. Oh well, thank you, Regi. I'll hopefully catch an hour of it or so, haha.

 

[SuperMii3D]

Well well well, look who was right about nothing "notable" being announced!

Looks like you saved yourself a pair

 

[Burb]

I mostly agree with you since it makes sense to me, but there's also no stated rule that says having a costume effects a character's chances negatively. There has been very little precedence set with DLC in general, so It's all (logical) supposition.

There's no rule saying that Assist Trophies and Bosses can't be DLC either, yet that's commonly accepted as one.

There is a very good chance these costumes are being used as a sort of "consolation prize" for characters who didn't quite make the cut.

 

[PushDustIn]

Looks like you saved yourself a pair

I'll get you next time....tennis shoes.

 

[Burb]

Well well well, look who was right about nothing "notable" being announced!

You, and, like, everyone except 5 or so people who inexplicably thought we'd be getting a character?

 

[Champ Gold]

Well well well, look who was right about nothing "notable" being announced!

I just well expected it. It's people looking for false hope and trying to find hype because of the K. Rool costume.


Now people are gonna act like Sakurai owe us a character reveal after the costume announcement.

Just saying. Now let me enjoy my buffs, stages and Mii Fighter Hoodie

 

[Strofirko]

I already knew we wont be getting a new character 12 hours before the update.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Tourney mode is like the best thing ever.
You can have stamina. Teams. Moe than two stocks.
New favourite mode can't wait for our tourneys.

 

[TheAnvil]

Yeah, but it's still based off a character already in the game.

There's still no precedent for a character being a Mii Fighter costume first and then getting upgraded to a fully playable character, and at least two of the costumes we've gotten are from characters who were turned down from the main roster.

I completely agree with you.

 

[Khoru]

speaking of that trailer, what is the name of the track that plays in Lloyd section?

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Did we ever have someone check the 3DS version of the update for hidden stuff?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Well well well, look who was right about nothing "notable" being announced!

Black Knight got a costume, that's pretty notable.
Speaking of the Black Knight, I'm surprised he wasn't an AT in the game, he's the most popular FE villain from what I can tell

 

[Spazzy_D]

There's no rule saying that Assist Trophies and Bosses can't be DLC either, yet that's commonly accepted as one.

There is a very good chance these costumes are being used as a sort of "consolation prize" for characters who didn't quite make the cut.

I get that, and I agree. The thing is that we have never seen a stage boss or Assist Trophy have a playable role in the same game that they serve the AT or Boss function. There is precedence for that train of thought.

We HAVE seen playable characters have Mii costumes that represent them. That's the only precedence we have in regards to characters and costumes. Adding the modifier of "except if the character is added after the character as DLC" is an assumption. As I mentioned before, it is a somewhat logical assumption, but it is an assumption none the less.

 

[CroonerMike]

Did we ever have someone check the 3DS version of the update for hidden stuff?

Most likely nothing at all.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Most likely nothing at all.

Better safe than sorry.

 

[Burb]

I get that, and I agree. The thing is that we have never seen a stage boss or Assist Trophy have a playable role in the same game that they serve the AT or Boss function. There is precedence for that train of thought.

We HAVE seen playable characters have Mii costumes that represent them. That's the only precedence we have in regards to characters and costumes. Adding the modifier of "except if the character is added after the character as DLC" is an assumption. As I mentioned before, it is a somewhat logical assumption, but it is an assumption none the less.

Saying "These costumes were added to tide fans over while the real character is made!" is an assumption as well.

One that's a lot less realistic. And I prefer to go with what's realistic.

 

[Starlight_Lily]

Thanks

 

[Burb]

Did we ever have someone check the 3DS version of the update for hidden stuff?

There was a video file labeled "DLC Plans", and when the data miner tried to open it, the screen started to glow and their face melted off like in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

 

[SlickWylde]

You, and, like, everyone except 5 or so people who inexplicably thought we'd be getting a character?

I don't remember who it was, but someone last night was arguing (well not arguing, just disagreeing) and saying that "They will for sure give us something exciting" so I was mostly playfully mocking that person

 

[Guybrush20X6]

We still don't have too much to go off of. All we know is Sakurai is aware of K. Rool.

Also on the topic of Mii costumes, why are there no Sonic ones yet? there were loads of them in the Mario & Sonic Olympic games.Also what would you think of a Rayman Brawler costume, complete with invisible arms and legs?

 

[Burb]

I don't remember who it was, but someone last night was arguing (well not arguing, just disagreeing) and saying that "They will for sure give us something exciting" so I was mostly playfully mocking that person

I know the context.

I was more poking fun at those who expected something huge.

 

[powerprotoman]

Saying "These costumes were added to tide fans over while the real character is made!" is an assumption as well.

One that's a lot less realistic. And I prefer to go with what's realistic.

how is it more realistic? where is this example that applies to this exact circumstance that makes it more realistic?
all this is right now is this character has a mii costume....thats it theres nothing definitive for either side of the argument
its all opinions at this point

 

[Tree Gelbman]

There was a video file labeled "DLC Plans", and when the data miner tried to open it, the screen started to glow and their face melted off like in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

See I thought a portal would open up, Sakurai would step out, start shouting Kalima and rip the data miner's heart out.

Seemed more his style.

 

[Burb]

how is it more realistic? where is this example that applies to this exact circumstance that makes it more realistic?
all this is right now is this character has a mii costume....thats it theres nothing definitive for either side of the argument
its all opinions at this point

"We're going to release this K. Rool costume so people play as a Mii version of him for a couple months while we make the real one!" just sounds like bargaining to me. Every theory involving Mii Costumes being used to gauge character popularity strikes me that way. It's a waste of resources to use them to collect data they could just gather from the ballot.

It reeks the same odor of desperation that the people who said "Hey, we could still get Ridley as a Wii U exclusive! Or maybe the boss will be the Other M version and we'll get Super Metroid Ridley as a playable character!".

It strikes me as people trying to explain away the problem.

 

[powerprotoman]

"We're going to release this K. Rool costume so people play as a Mii version of him for a couple months while we make the real one!" just sounds like bargaining to me.

It reeks the same odor of desperation that the people who said "Hey, we could still get Ridley as a Wii U exclusive! Or maybe the boss will be the Other M version and we'll get Super Metroid Ridley as a playable character!".

It strikes me as people trying to explain away the problem.

the difference being ones a costume and the other is the actual character as a boss
you cant apply the ridley logic here because its not king K roll its a costume WE can all see thats ridley on pyrosphere hell if K.Rool was added to a stage in dlc THAT would have been the end of it but as it stands its a different situation

 

[Burb]

the difference being ones a costume and the other is the actual character as a boss
you cant apply the ridley logic here because its not king K roll its a costume WE can all see thats ridley on pyrosphere hell if K.Rool was added to a stage in dlc THAT would have been the end of it but as it stands its a different situation

The purpose of most of these costumes are so you can "play as" the character they represent. They make this quite clear in the New Content stream.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I just cannot grasp any more straws now after the Ridley incident. I do not want to be a victim of being disappointed if news bears on his exclusion.

 

[powerprotoman]

The purpose of most of these costumes are so you can "play as" the character they represent. They make this quite clear in the New Content stream.

okay so how do you know that they arnt talking specificly about the third party characters like the large majority of mii costumes that arnt generic animals or outfits are 3rd party characters

 

[PushDustIn]

See I thought a portal would open up, Sakurai would step out, start shouting Kalima and rip the data miner's heart out.

Seemed more his style.

...and that's why I stopped data mining. I became aware of the prophecy through the translations and the "connecting the dots" articles that I write.

In an unrelated, yet somewhat related note: Source Gaming got its' first donation on patreon! We are now 1/4 of the way to becoming self-sufficient. Hooray!

I really enjoy the debate @ Burb and @ Spazzy_D are having. It's a big question, and something that we can only speculate on for now.

I'll be interviewing the guys who were behind the fake Dr. Mario leak (I saw @gameonion posting here!), probably tomorrow. So expect that....and not the Wario article very soon (Sorry).

 

[Burb]

okay so how do you know that they arnt talking specificly about the third party characters like the large majority of mii costumes are 3rd party characters

What difference does it make?

One of them, Heihachi, was a character who was turned down from the game's main roster. He got a Mii Costume instead.

 

[powerprotoman]

What difference does it make?

One of them, Heihachi, was a character who was turned down from the game's main roster. He got a Mii Costume instead.

heihachi's case was infact to be pacman's replacement should sakurai not be able to get pacman in his classic design

 

[Burb]

heihachi's case was infact to be pacman's replacement should sakurai not be able to get pacman in his classic design

Uhhh.....no, it wasn't.