NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

[Kenith]

Idk why you don't expect Smash 5 lol. It makes SERIOUS amounts of big money.
There is no gurantee, but I'm assuming that, after 2 games of being teased, Sakurai will give him a break. Maybe he won't be.

No, what I mean is that I'm not certain that the next Smash game will be a proper new game. We could be getting updated editions of Smash 4 for the next decade.

 

[Z25]

I can now officially accept bribes.

Congrats! You earned it!

 

[Luigi The President]

No, what I mean is that I'm not certain that the next Smash game will be a proper new game. We could be getting updated editions of Smash 4 for the next decade.

And why do you think that? I'm sure Nintendo will begin developing it next year.

 

[Solfiner]

I can now officially accept bribes.

stop "Push"ing these suggestions into our minds.

For real though, gratz!

 

[DMurr]

I can now officially accept bribes.

This is new.

 

[Huarbolo]

Thanks @egaddmario ! I now have all stages and characters in Melee!

 

[Kenith]

So, let's say Smash NX becomes a thing, and that as a bonus we get a bunch of vets back.

How would you handle Pokemon Trainer? Give him a new third Pokemon to replace Charizard? Have him as a stand alone summon character? Bring back Squirtle and Ivysaur as stand alone characters and simply have him in the background when any of his three Pokemon are used? Maybe even have him keep his Brawl gimmick, but allow him to chose from ANY three Pokemon in the game, although the Pokemon would obviously lose their down b and be subject to the stamina gimmick. Maybe something I haven't thought of?

Both?
An option to play as Charizard, Ivysaur or Squirtle altogether or separately w/o Pokemon Trainer.

 

[Geno Boost]

Lmao, you're the one saying a character from one game 20 years ago should be in

Fanmade polls do count. Also, the most voted Mario character is a big fact. Number one isn't even an opinion, majority Nintendo gamers loved Paper Mario.

Now you play the game. Tell me how the hell Geno is gonna be in before Paper Mario? I'll be back to you in 40 minutes, after I'm done having an amazing time playing Paper Mario 64.

Y'know, like a LOT OF GAMERS.

Cuz SMRPG was more important in Nintendo history than both paper Mario and Mario & lungi RPG seires they are just spirtual seccessor

OMG it's happening SMRPG is actually going to be released in the wiiu eshop! i told you guys SMRPG is still a part of Nintendo

 

[Radical Bones]

I'd like a Pokemon Trainer who doesn't use Pokemon... kinda. His Up B would be the blue-gray blob looking thing using fly like in the overworld. He'd use his fishing rod, bike, and more blobs in his attacks. He's got a few well known tools. Escape Rope, Smoke Ball, Repel Spray (reflect attacks), etc.

He could throw rocks and mud too like in the Safari Zone.

I just think it'd be neat to play as him and not have him rely on any Pokemon.

Except maybe his FS.

 

[epicmartin7]

I can now officially accept bribes.

Hey, congratulations! You definitely earned it.

Spoiler

Does that mean @ Swamp Sensei was demoted?

 

[Deleted member]

I hate the idea of playing as the Trainer himself.

I can now officially accept bribes.

What would it take for you to hurry with that Wario article?

 

[Luigi The President]

Cuz SMRPG was more important in Nintendo history than both paper Mario and Mario & lungi RPG seires they are just spirtual seccessor

OMG it's happening SMRPG is actually going to be released in the wiiu eshop! i told you guys SMRPG is still a part of Nintendo

...Nobody ever disagreed with you on that? Lmao
Also no it wasn't. SMRPG was one game. Paper Mario is four. What does it matter if it's a "spiritual successor"? I'm pretty sure Xenoblade is the successor of another series, spiritually, and is just as possible as it.

Paper Mario is more important to Nintendo then SMRPG.

 

[PushDustIn]

I hate the idea of playing as the Trainer himself.


What would it take for you to hurry with that Wario article?

About 40% done with it! Was going to work on it after my regular job you can always donate to my patreon

The good news is that the Relax Alax collaboration is 60% done (needed to alter some lines), and the video should be up sometime in the near future. And we have a ton of great articles coming out in the very near future. I'm probably more excited about @Frostwraith article than my Wario one!

Thanks for the warm reception!

 

[Geno Boost]

...Nobody ever disagreed with you on that? Lmao
Also no it wasn't. SMRPG was one game. Paper Mario is four. What does it matter if it's a "spiritual successor"? I'm pretty sure Xenoblade is the successor of another series, spiritually, and is just as possible as it.

Paper Mario is more important to Nintendo then SMRPG.

More games =\= important
get ready

Spoiler

-SMRPG released toys in japan unlike the other Mario RPGs wich means nintendo cared about this game more than the other Mario RPGs
-SMRPG was ranked very high on some companies and even being called "classic legend"http://www.ign.com/games/super-mario-rpg-legend-of-the-seven-stars/wii-865240
http://www.ign.com/games/super-mario-rpg-legend-of-the-seven-stars/wii-865240 http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews...rpg_legend_of_the_seven_stars_virtual_console
http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews...rpg_legend_of_the_seven_stars_virtual_console http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/super-mario-rpg-legend-of-the-seven-stars
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/super-mario-rpg-legend-of-the-seven-stars http://www.amazon.com/Super-Mario-RPG-Legend-Seven-Nintendo/dp/B00002SVG3
http://www.amazon.com/Super-Mario-RPG-Legend-Seven-Nintendo/dp/B00002SVG3 http://www.destructoid.com/virtual-console-verdict-super-mario-rpg-270358.phtml
http://www.destructoid.com/virtual-console-verdict-super-mario-rpg-270358.phtml http://www.videogamesblogger.com/20...e-for-the-seven-stars-still-hold-up-today.htm
-without this game Mario and luigi and Mario paper seires wouldn't exist
-SMRPG was anccestor to other Mario RPGs
-it's a game that was made when square and Nintendo teamed up for the first time and they are friends now
-the story of this game was memorable than the other Mario RPGs and this game is very classic
-this game made a lot of square and Nintendo fans happy when it first came out and was able to collect them in 1 place
-alphadream are very interested on revisiting SMRPG

 

[DoodleDuck97]

I can now officially accept bribes.

Congrats Pushy. You very much earned it =3
I have one Ness Amiibo if I can bribe you with it
Oh I like how your Name Tag now matches your Balloons

 

[Luigi The President]

More games =\= important
get ready

Spoiler

-SMRPG released toys in japan unlike the other Mario RPGs wich means nintendo cared about this game more than the other Mario RPGs
-SMRPG was ranked very high on some companies and even being called "classic legend"
http://www.ign.com/games/super-mario-rpg-legend-of-the-seven-stars/wii-865240
http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews...rpg_legend_of_the_seven_stars_virtual_console
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/super-mario-rpg-legend-of-the-seven-stars
http://www.amazon.com/Super-Mario-RPG-Legend-Seven-Nintendo/dp/B00002SVG3
http://www.destructoid.com/virtual-console-verdict-super-mario-rpg-270358.phtml http://www.videogamesblogger.com/20...e-for-the-seven-stars-still-hold-up-today.htm
-without this game Mario and luigi and Mario paper seires wouldn't exist
-SMRPG was anccestor to other Mario RPGs
-it's a game that was made when square and Nintendo teamed up for the first time and they are friends now
-the story of this game was memorable than the other Mario RPGs and this game is very classic
-this game made a lot of square and Nintendo fans happy when it first came out and was able to collect them in 1 place
-alphadream are very interested on revisiting SMRPG

Spoiler

Get ready for the counter argument.

• Just because it gets toys doesn't mean it's not intergal. Metroid barely gets toys either. Also, what's there to make toys of? It's Paper Mario, but plastic. Pointless.
• Okay, how does this change anything? Paper Mario is also very highly recieved by many people.
• And? "So instead of putting in Paper Mario, we're putting in [SMRPG Rep], because SMRPG made Paper Mario happen!"
• SMRPG was the first Mario RPG. Okay, and? This doesn't matter.
• I barely see Square giving Nintendo games. Also, Geno is 3rd party. That's a big thing.
• What is this even supposed to mean? Shrek Super Slam could make someone happy. We're not getting Shrek.
• No source, also, that doesn't mean anything.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Paper_Mario Look at this. Nearly every game has more sales then SMRPG. Each is, as such, more important.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Congrats @ PushDustIn : What can I bribe you so you can make me premium? Besides money.

 

[Khoru]

what does "collect them in one place" even mean
square's games in the 3rd and 4th gen were pretty much entirely for the NES and SNES

although "square doesn't give nintendo games" doesn't mean much, even not counting those four mario games from a good time back
there have been like four(?) KH games for nintendo consoles and afaik the entire series is canon
both bravely default games were nintendo-exclusives, and nintendo's gotten the theatrhythm games, as little as they may be
idk what the situation with DQ is, but considering the cinematic-ness of the newer final fantasy games, i can't blame SE for sticking with sony's superior hardware

 

[BluePikmin11]

Push you are scaring me.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Get ready for the counter argument.

• Just because it gets toys doesn't mean it's not intergal. Metroid barely gets toys either. Also, what's there to make toys of? It's Paper Mario, but plastic. Pointless.
• Okay, how does this change anything? Paper Mario is also very highly recieved by many people.
• And? "So instead of putting in Paper Mario, we're putting in [SMRPG Rep], because SMRPG made Paper Mario happen!"
• SMRPG was the first Mario RPG. Okay, and? This doesn't matter.
• I barely see Square giving Nintendo games. Also, Geno is 3rd party. That's a big thing.
• What is this even supposed to mean? Shrek Super Slam could make someone happy. We're not getting Shrek.
• No source, also, that doesn't mean anything.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Paper_Mario Look at this. Nearly every game has more sales then SMRPG. Each is, as such, more important.

Here's a source for AlphaDream wanting to use Geno and Mallow.
http://nintendoeverything.com/alpha...no-and-mallow-could-be-used-in-a-future-game/

Just providing it since one wasn't given

 

[Z25]

I'd like a Pokemon Trainer who doesn't use Pokemon... kinda. His Up B would be the blue-gray blob looking thing using fly like in the overworld. He'd use his fishing rod, bike, and more blobs in his attacks. He's got a few well known tools. Escape Rope, Smoke Ball, Repel Spray (reflect attacks), etc.

He could throw rocks and mud too like in the Safari Zone.

I just think it'd be neat to play as him and not have him rely on any Pokemon.

Except maybe his FS.

I actually love this idea. When he was cut I thought more about this. And there's so much potential. I know a lot of people hate it but I think it be really neat.

 

[Geno Boost]

Get ready for the counter argument.

• Just because it gets toys doesn't mean it's not intergal. Metroid barely gets toys either. Also, what's there to make toys of? It's Paper Mario, but plastic. Pointless.
• Okay, how does this change anything? Paper Mario is also very highly recieved by many people.
• And? "So instead of putting in Paper Mario, we're putting in [SMRPG Rep], because SMRPG made Paper Mario happen!"
• SMRPG was the first Mario RPG. Okay, and? This doesn't matter.
• I barely see Square giving Nintendo games. Also, Geno is 3rd party. That's a big thing.
• What is this even supposed to mean? Shrek Super Slam could make someone happy. We're not getting Shrek.
• No source, also, that doesn't mean anything.

Spoiler

-Still they cared about this game back in the SNES than mario paper seires they would have at least releasing stickers but they didnt
-not as much as SMRPG
-yes we should thank SMRPG before thanking other RPGs seires because its the grandfather of the mario RPGs seires
-being first is the best because its all started from here
-3rd party? i am actually not sure about this... someone has contacted square enix on the Geno thread they told him "SMRPG characters are owned by both nintendo and square enix but to get it into the game both company must agree as usually" i feel he is a 2nd party
-collecting both final fantasy and mario fanbase in 1 place was something special in early crossover games and you dont see this thing every time back in the 90s
- http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/08/13/where-mario-luigi-dream-team-and-super-mario-rpg-collide

 

[aldelaro5]

So, I just got back, congrats push

You honestly earned it

 

[Luigi The President]

Spoiler

-Still they cared about this game back in the SNES than mario paper seires they would have at least releasing stickers but they didnt
-not as much as SMRPG
-yes we should thank SMRPG before thanking other RPGs seires because its the grandfather of the mario RPGs seires
-being first is the best because its all started from here
-3rd party? i am actually not sure about this... someone has contacted square enix on the Geno thread they told him "SMRPG characters are owned by both nintendo and square enix but to get it into the game both company must agree as usually" i feel he is a 2nd party
-collecting both final fantasy and mario fanbase in 1 place was something special in early crossover
- http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/08/13/where-mario-luigi-dream-team-and-super-mario-rpg-collide

Spoiler

• Merchandise was unneeded for Paper Mario. All they could do would be stickers. Waste of resources.
• Yes, as much as SMRPG.
• Okay, I love SMRPG and I do thank it, but that gives it literally 0 reason to be in Smash. I don't know why you think that gives it superiority.
• Who cares if it was first? No one does, Smash-wise.
• No, he is 3rd party. If he wasn't, we'd know, trust me. Also, source?
• There is like one thing Final Fantasy in that game, the Cortex dude. I don't understand how it's special.
• One article from 2 years ago. You acted like they were like "WE HAVE TO RETURN TO IT!!! PLEASE!!!" They were ACTUALLY like "I guess it'd be cool"

 

[Starlight_Lily]

New Update!:

* Ray MK:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll373175x097e47BB-14
* Sceptile:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll373177xF7aaDd3a-14

* Starfy:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll373181x86F9423E-14

* Spyro:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll373182x56A30DaA-14

Go vote!

Yes to Ray and Sceptile. Indifferent to Starfy. And straight up no to Spyro, he doesn't belong in Smash

So, let's say Smash NX becomes a thing, and that as a bonus we get a bunch of vets back.

How would you handle Pokemon Trainer? Give him a new third Pokemon to replace Charizard? Have him as a stand alone summon character? Bring back Squirtle and Ivysaur as stand alone characters and simply have him in the background when any of his three Pokemon are used? Maybe even have him keep his Brawl gimmick, but allow him to chose from ANY three Pokemon in the game, although the Pokemon would obviously lose their down b and be subject to the stamina gimmick. Maybe something I haven't thought of?

I'd have him summon Pokemon to attack for him. And make him use HM for specials

As of late, I've been conducting some Gfaqs polls to gauge what people are most interested in. I do it yearly, and this is the third round: (The first one never went very far, though...)

Mario: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/72215456 (This one was rigged by alt accounts. Ignore most of the Daisy votes -_-)
Donkey Kong: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/72227776
Yoshi: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/72238321

Some of these will be expected, but it's interesting to see more controversial ones. Ex: Waluigi seems to have Paper Mario beaten, which is unusual.

Daisy getting high votes in a Gamefaqs is really unusual, since that site seems to have a moronic vendetta against her, which is different form Smashboards who just don't get that Daisy has a fanbase in the Mario fandom. I'm also going to let you guys in on a little secret: Most of the Mario fandom reaction to Daisy being playable in Smash would be neat, moving on.

I noticed a while back some people saying that Kenji Inufuane wasn't important to the creation to Megaman. You guys need to realise that he is very important to the creation of the series. Saying is isn't important is like saying that Ken Sugimori is worthless to Pokemon. Character Designers are very important to the design process of games, because they can put down ideas for what characters can do with their looks. And ith Megaman being a series that has you face 8 bosses, who were all designed by Kenji Inufuane makes him very important to the series.

Also something I'd like you guys to possibly note. The reason as to why Inufuane may have started the Red Ash project, is simply because Mighty No. 9 is effectively done and is probably going through its last round of bug testing before releasing in September. Don't forget Smash Bros Wii U had finished being built back in Sept last year, and Sakurai and co. were doing last bits of debugging for the game.

And I'm not saying I agree with Kenji Inufuane is doing with kickstarter, I just wanted to explain why Inufuane is working on other stuff besides Mighty No 9.

Also don't blame him for Capcom's moronic on disc dlc policy, he isn't an executive of the company, and he didn't work on Capcom's fighting games so why the hell would he be behind it?

So you guys know that whole Dragon Quest XI announcement I was thinking depending on how long it takes for Square to develop games, we will probably see DQXI in 2017, which would make sense if they only just now starting to put the game in unreal engine 4. Also I don't see the NX coming out next year since it could easily cause the sale of SMTxFE and Zelda Wii U sales to be cannibalised.

Also if we don't see a direct annoncement by the end of July the direct leak is fake

And on a different note, and something I noticed from a lot of gaming press, funny how Nintendo is called out for being to Japanese, but no American devs are called out for being to american.

 

[Z25]

I'm just gonna ay Paper mario has way more merrits then mario rpg atm and PM deserves to be in smash already! I want him to be playable through the ballot! Paper mario's my most wanted atm.

 

[IceBreakerXY]

Spoiler

-Still they cared about this game back in the SNES than mario paper seires they would have at least releasing stickers but they didnt
-not as much as SMRPG
-yes we should thank SMRPG before thanking other RPGs seires because its the grandfather of the mario RPGs seires
-being first is the best because its all started from here
-3rd party? i am actually not sure about this... someone has contacted square enix on the Geno thread they told him "SMRPG characters are owned by both nintendo and square enix but to get it into the game both company must agree as usually" i feel he is a 2nd party
-collecting both final fantasy and mario fanbase in 1 place was something special in early crossover
- http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/08/13/where-mario-luigi-dream-team-and-super-mario-rpg-collide

Spoiler

-I think the fact were still getting paper mario games and not SMRPG games shows what they care about more

-SMRPG and the first Paper mairo are neck to neck in terms of review scores both scoring 9.5 and 10 heck thousand year door is held as one of the greatest rpg's of all time

-He's not second party.Square Enix owns the right to the character and they have always owned the right to the character.BTW if your source is the geno thread that's not helping your case people say anything to make there character seem more likely.That's nothing new

-There's a secret final fantasy boss.Yes all final fastasy fans are gonna go insane for this game

 

[Champ Gold]

I was losing my mind to some TV show and missed all the big news, congrats Mr. Moderator @ PushDustIn



Now can you help me get Premium for atleast day or so to change my profile name, please?

 

[Naoshi]

Kind of off topic but why do people forget to close their spoiler tags when finishing their posts?

It kind of makes quoting it a bit tedious sometimes because it also spoiler tags the content of the post itself due to the lack of closure.

 

[Spazzy_D]

what does "collect them in one place" even mean
square's games in the 3rd and 4th gen were pretty much entirely for the NES and SNES

although "square doesn't give nintendo games" doesn't mean much, even not counting those four mario games from a good time back
there have been like four(?) KH games for nintendo consoles and afaik the entire series is canon
both bravely default games were nintendo-exclusives, and nintendo's gotten the theatrhythm games, as little as they may be
idk what the situation with DQ is, but considering the cinematic-ness of the newer final fantasy games, i can't blame SE for sticking with sony's superior hardware

The last two numbered entries into the Dragon's Quest franchshise were Nintendo exclusives.

 

[PushDustIn]

I was losing my mind to some TV show and missed all the big news, congrats Mr. Moderator @ PushDustIn



Now can you help me get Premium for atleast day or so to change my profile name, please?

Mods can give out premium? I have no idea about that, I'm still learning how to be a mod here!

 

[Luigi The President]

Kind of off topic but why do people forget to close their spoiler tags when finishing their posts?

It kind of makes quoting it a bit tedious sometimes because it also spoiler tags the content of the post itself due to the lack of closure.

@ me next time sweetie

 

[Naoshi]

@ me next time sweetie

It wasn't actually directed at anyone. But it's been something I've been wanting to say for a while.

 

[PLATINUM7]

The last two numbered entries into the Dragon's Quest franchshise were Nintendo exclusives.

Not anymore since X is coming to PS4 and apparently it's available for PC.

 

[Luigi The President]

It wasn't actually directed at anyone. But it's been something I've been wanting to say for a while.

I know it may've been hard to read but it was a joke based on how Twitter users are like "@ me next time sweetie" in response to vaguetweets.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I can now officially accept bribes.

Conglaturation !!!
You have become a great mod.
And prooved the justice of our website.
Now go and rest our heroes !


Seriously, dude. Congratulations.

 

[Kenith]

Kind of off topic but why do people forget to close their spoiler tags when finishing their posts?

It kind of makes quoting it a bit tedious sometimes because it also spoiler tags the content of the post itself due to the lack of closure.

I have the same issue. Very annoying to post something and wonder where you added spoilers./

 

[Geno Boost]

• Merchandise was unneeded for Paper Mario. All they could do would be stickers. Waste of resources.
• Yes, as much as SMRPG.
• Okay, I love SMRPG and I do thank it, but that gives it literally 0 reason to be in Smash. I don't know why you think that gives it superiority.
• Who cares if it was first? No one does, Smash-wise.
• No, he is 3rd party. If he wasn't, we'd know, trust me. Also, source?
• There is like one thing Final Fantasy in that game, the Cortex dude. I don't understand how it's special.
• One article from 2 years ago. You acted like they were like "WE HAVE TO RETURN TO IT!!! PLEASE!!!" They were ACTUALLY like "I guess it'd be cool"

Spoiler

- or they can do bags for schools that has mario paper characters on it, they can make alot of things if they cared about this but they didnt
- i dont see anyone who called mario paper like this and i think few people who said this
- it has special place in nintendo history, if we thank Duck hunt dog and R.O.B. and ice climbers for what they did in the past then SMRPG should be thanked too Super smash is about nintendo celebraties after all
- if SMRPG didnt come first then none other mario RPGs will even come wich is why being first is the best
- http://i19.servimg.com/u/f19/19/15/26/78/bkhg7q11.png
- The whole game is a mix between mario game and final fantasy game there are also some characters from final fantasy appeared there not only 1 but they got redesign
- does the year matter? nope but they are interested on revesiting SMRPG in the future

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Mods can give out premium? I have no idea about that, I'm still learning how to be a mod here!

Abyssal Lagicrius was able to from what I remember. Maybe I'm wrong. Well, if I am, no biggie. Anyway, glad to see more. Anybody else added at the same time as you, by the way?

 

[Das Koopa]

Daisy getting high votes in a Gamefaqs is really unusual, since that site seems to have a moronic vendetta against her, which is different form Smasoards who just don't get that Daisy has a fanbase in the Mario fandom. I'm also going to let you guys in on a little secret: Most of the Mario fandom reaction would be neat, moving on.

Without getting in too deep as to sound like I'm bashing GameFAQs, trolls are essentially an accepted thing on GameFAQs because IP bans don't exist and very few forums have a level minimum. As a result, the Daisy fandom's vocal members comprise of vocal trolls. As a result, Daisy is pretty much reviled because people associate it with aforementioned troll users.

When it gets right down to it, the biggest reaction would be "No Waluigi/Paper Mario?!", but it's not like Daisy wouldn't have unique qualities. She has the same moveset potential Waluigi has. It's less about the character and more about her fans.