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I remember you, I've seen you in the Bandanna Dee thread before. Anyway, please to meet you.
Damn, only 49 characters? Sakurai I am disappoint.It's vague, so sorry we don't know how many will be made! We tried keeping it vague in English as well.
However his comment about not being able to keep the development team forever means it's totally less than 50.
I believe you're a very experienced data miner, so I'll ask you first. There have been many misconceptions regarding these files in the game's data, some people say they're reserved for 5 ballot characters, while others say that Lucas, Roy, and Ryu have taken them up already, while others say they aren't even placeholders, so I want to know what's already known about them and if any of the information I posted above is true or not. So please, if you will.It's vague, so sorry we don't know how many will be made! We tried keeping it vague in English as well.
However his comment about not being able to keep the development team forever means it's totally less than 50
I love how Shrek is beating a good chunk of the characters in the "Who do you want to see the most?" section.
It's not impossible to get more pre-ballot characters.
I think his chances are among the absolute best, but the better thing to say at this point is that a Donkey Kong rep is a lock. Gotta thank Retro for that one, they pulled off the best possible revival a series could've gotten.
It's all up to interpretation. There is no clear cut answer.
Retro has nothing to do with K. Rool's popularity.
He's definitely got a chance. But he's VERY far from being a lock.
I think the revived relevance of the DKC series as a whole has helped sustain the fanbase. It's indirect, but I sincerely doubt Rool would be as popular as he is now of DKC went by the wayside like F-Zero or Star Fox had for years on end.
I dunno. K. Rool has been a popular request since Pre-Brawl, and the fact that DK has been so neglected since Melee is probably the majority of the reason why people want K. Rool so badly.
I guess. I just figure that K. Rool support might've died the same way Krystal did if DK ended up in the Mario spinoff Graveyard with nothing new to his game. You'd have "Series isn't relevant" posts, fans giving up hope as he gets no new rep, etc.
Yeah, he's one of the few characters who were popular pre-Brawl that remained just as popular (if not moreso) heading into SSB4.
K. Rool's absence in the DK series is his biggest obstacle by far, and I think too many people downplay just how big an obstacle it is.
Ridley and Isaac being the only other two I can think of.
Saw this went unnoticed, thought i'd tell you what's up. There were 6 slots with Mario's name thought to be DLC placeholders and they're currently being filled with Mewtwo, Roy, Ryu, and Lucas, which leaves 2 slots left. No one knows who's going into those slots yet. Also, welcome to our little family.
The thing is, Sakurai doesn't care about "reps" nearly as much as the fanbase does, and I doubt his mind would go "I need to throw a bone to this fanbase because I ignored character A, so here's B" when we have many other choices from other games that could be considered. What would get Dixie in is her own popularity in the ballot, not because she was second banana to the King, if she's not deemed popular/notable/etc, enough, she's not going to get considered.
This is exacty why the Ice Climbers were put on a low priority according to Sakurai himself. There is a lot of precedence to think this could easily happen.
The only thing with Ridley is that his following has all but disappeared for this ballot. At least compared to how it was pre-smash 4.
She's already been deemed Smash worthy, she was nearly in Brawl.
Thank you for giving me some more insight on what's going on! Also, glad to be here!
Yup, he's sleepin'. Dreaming about a new article he can write about, no doubt.
Well if that's the case I bet he'll respond later than. Hopefully I can get even more information from him that can help me understand more of what the story is! In the mean time, thanks for the help!
Seems like we've had very different experiences with Isaac supporters, then.
Ridley most definitely counts. The fact that his supporters remained undeterred after the infamous "Other boss character appearances" segment of Smash Direct aired is pretty much the prime example of how major the demand was. The only reason his following has all but vanished is because he's one of the only characters Sakurai has pretty much outright said "No" to publicly, and he already has a pretty big in-game role. He was popular up until the 50 Facts bomb dropped and even the most stubborn members of the Ridley camp had to concede.
That's not my point, I'm not saying she's not Smash worthy (though if I understand correctly, she was pretty low on the 'forbidden 7' list back in Brawl), I'm saying that if King K. Rool is not considered, she's not suddenly going to jump to playable to "fulfill" a DK rep slot. She either gets in on her own merits or she doesn't, she's not going to be playable just because King K. Rool was looked over and Sakurai wants to throw a bone to DK fans.
Won't matter. He is the Marth/Olimar of his franchise, being
Yet we didn't get a Metroid 'rep' for SSB4, we didn't get a DK 'rep,' we didn't get a Grass starter or an ORAS 'rep,' and so on. We don't get representation, we get characters and Sakurai doesn't play by the rules of the fans when it comes to that. If a Metroid rep gets in, it's on their own merits, same with DK, same with a Grass starter, so on and so forth. He doesn't throw a bone to fans just because they want their series to be better represented, characters don't get favors, they either have their own merits or they're not playable (or they're quick clones, and I don't think people want that for Dixie).
All of this is irrelevant as Dixie has popularity and all those other things necessary to be playable.
ZSS almost certainly exists as a bone for Metroid fans. She is the ONLY character in the game two get two different movesets.
^ This. Sakurai doesn't think he can make Ridley work, so he gave us another version of Samus. After Samus and Ridley, who else is a reoccurring character? Dark Samus would've been a good bet, but do we really need 3 versions of Samus on the roster? Stylux could be a Smash 5 rep if he takes off after that Federation Force game...
