NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

[epicmartin7]

What happened to Icies? They weren't viable as in they were too weak, or too strong, etc...

The Ice Climbers AI is apparently very bugged in that Nana will sometimes self-destruct herself or just wander off.

Apparently, Hyrule Warriors 3DS and Wii U also just got new screenshots.

I'm also just going to wait until PM 3.6's release to find out everything. I'd rather just focus on other leaks at the moment. Plus I'm too lazy to find the video XD.

 

[TheAnvil]

@Burb I'm aware this isn't realistic, it's just to show that it can be cleanly implemented.

Updated "DLCstorm" variant:

I just realised that you could actually order the Zelda characters: YL, Sheik, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Link, Zelda if you wanted to go by debut (as Link and Zelda are listed as TP in-game). And in a weird way because he's the OOT Link he's technically closer to the Link that was in Smash 64.

Weirdness.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

The Ice Climbers AI is apparently very bugged in that Nana will sometimes self-destruct herself or just wander off.

Apparently, Hyrule Warriors 3DS and Wii U also just got new screenshots.

I'm also just going to wait until PM 3.6's release to find out everything. I'd rather just focus on other leaks at the moment. Plus I'm too lazy to find the video XD.

I can't wait for that Wind Waker remix.
That's what I'm most hyped about.

 

[Khoru]

I just realised that you could actually order the Zelda characters: YL, Sheik, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Link, Zelda if you wanted to go by debut (as Link and Zelda are listed as TP in-game). And in a weird way because he's the OOT Link he's technically closer to the Link that was in Smash 64.

not in all-star mode, at least
they're both legacy characters anyway. ganondorf is a specific character, because there's only one ganondorf. link, toon link, and zelda take traits from several of their kind. smash doesn't have the hero of twilight or the hero of wind.

 

[Soul.]

I thought Project M 3.6 wouldn't include any new characters.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I hope Tetra and the King are not the only additions to Hyrule Warriors 3DS, otherwise, I don't know if I can justify buying the game again.

 

[Chrono.]

Knuckles and Lyn were finished for 3.5 but were held back for some reason.

 

[epicmartin7]

This is severely off-topic, but I just found this comic that just knocked my socks off XD.

 

[Chrono.]

This is severely off-topic, but I just found this comic that just knocked my socks off XD.

Makes me glad the Youtube feature is coming soon.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

I hope Tetra and the King are not the only additions to Hyrule Warriors 3DS, otherwise, I don't know if I can justify buying the game again.

I hope we get a tetra Amiibo.
Because I will jump "ship" on that bandwagon any day of the week.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I don't forsee amiibo for the 3DS version. The Wii U version never got amiibo.

Though I'd probably buy Impa, Tingle, Darunia and Tetra amiibo for sure.

 

[epicmartin7]

I'm sorry, but this is the last time I will upload a SpongeBob joke. This one ABSOLUTELY represents E3 last year. It is really hilarious. Better than the one I posted earlier XD.

This is probably more for the Smash 4 social thread than anything, but this is mostly my home on Smash Boards XD. So might as well share it with you guys! After this I'll go back to leak hunting.

 

[Spazzy_D]

There's not really a character I've got my hopes up over, because when I do that I get disappointed. I guess Wolf would be the closest thing.

Only thing I would be disappointed in at this point is no Wolf. No new DK rep would also bother me, but to a much lesser extent. To be completely honest with you, as cool as K. Rool or Dixie would be, I want one of them in mostly so I don't have to deal with disgruntled DK fans as a much.

I hope we get everyone back in general.
I would hate to think we sacrificed characters for another version of Smash Tour or fifteen travelling stages.

Wait, do people actually complain about the traveling stages? Is that a thing now? Skyloft, Wuhu, and Mario Circuit U are some of my favorite Smash stages.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

I don't forsee amiibo for the 3DS version. The Wii U version never got amiibo.

Though I'd probably buy Impa, Tingle, Darunia and Tetra amiibo for sure.

To be fair though the Wii U version came out before Amiibo struck a gold mine with Nintendo.
I do see them doing something more with them now that it is their second go at the game.
And I generally want a link Amiibo with that scarf and one with the Design that Zelda has in this game.
I think the designs for Link and Zelda in this game are my favourite design for them in all of Zelda.
Not to mention the amazing ganondorf.

I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't fall for this line of Amiibo.
As I have done for all the others.

 

[Kenith]

Wait, do people actually complain about the traveling stages? Is that a thing now? Skyloft, Wuhu, and Mario Circuit U are some of my favorite Smash stages.

I like the travelling stages too? I think you're missing my point.

 

[Spazzy_D]

I like the travelling stages too? I think you're missing my point.

On, I assume you're talking about the amount of effort that went into those stages as opposed to making a few static stages and having more overall stages and time for characters then?

(By the way, one thing I do kind of dislike about traveling stages is that some of the best segments pass by quicly...I wish there was a way to play entire matches on specific landing spots. Skyloft in particular has some awesome segments that end way too soon.)

 

[Kenith]

On, I assume you're talking about the amount of effort that went into those stages as opposed to making a few static stages and having more overall stages and time for characters then?
(By the way, one thing I do kind of dislike about traveling stages is that some of the best segments pass by quicly...I wish there was a way to play entire matches on specific landing spots. Skyloft in particular has some awesome segments that end way too soon.)

Skyloft is my favorite new stage so I agree. Mario Circuit U is also great (most of the time, damn killer walls) and I can't think of any better way to represent Mario Kart.
However, I'm specifically talking about Orbital Gate Assault. Pretty much everyone I've talked to doesn't like it, and apparently it took a year to make. It seems like it wasn't worth the effort, and I would stages like that get passed over for other content in the future.

 

[Soul.]

The best traveling stages are Halberd/Delfino/Prism Tower.
Come at me

 

[Kenith]

Halberd and Prism Tower aren't really travelling stages in the same way as the others...

 

[DoodleDuck97]

I like Pac Land........

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Orbital Gate Assault is pretty as hell.

Only played it once though.

Hate hate hate hate hate it.

I've only hated two other stages that much and they were 75m and Hanenbow.

 

[Kenith]

Orbital Gate Assault is pretty as hell.
Only played it once though.
Hate hate hate hate hate it.
I've only hated two other stages that much and they were 75m and Hanenbow.

That's pretty much where I stand on that stage.
Actually, 'standing' on Orbital Gate Assault is pretty much impossible.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Theoretically, how many stage icons could you fit on to the second page of the 3DS's stages?

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I remember playing OGA Christmas morning with my friend and his brother.

All of us universally hated it. The brother thought ''Oh, Star Fox stage those are pretty safe."

Lulz. What a mistake.

 

[Soul.]

wait how exactly aren't halberd/prism traveling stages. I thought traveling stages were have this floating platform that moves, go to a specific part of the stage, then disappears, comes back and does the same thing

 

[Kenith]

Speaking of stages, I'd like to point out, that, so far, my prediction about DLC stage being for both versions, rather than one, being completely correct.
Is there any DLC that is specific to one version so far? I don't think there is.

 

[Das Koopa]

Speaking of stages, I'd like to point out, that, so far, my prediction about DLC stage being for both versions, rather than one, being completely correct.
Is there any DLC that is specific to one version so far? I don't think there is.

We were both correct about this

I saw no reason for the dev team to have separate stages for separate versions for paid DLC.

 

[Kenith]

We were both correct about this
I saw no reason for the dev team to have separate stages for separate versions for paid DLC.

I saw a lot of people suggesting certain stages would be exclusive to one version (Great Bay for Majora's Mask especially)
We haven't seen all the DLC (I hope) but I don't think this will change.

 

[RamOne]

I saw a lot of people suggesting certain stages would be exclusive to one version (Great Bay for Majora's Mask especially)
We haven't seen all the DLC (I hope) but I don't think this will change.

I hope this doesn't mean we'll only see 64 stages as returning stages, but eh, I'm already glad we're getting stage DLC.

 

[WeirdJoe27]

Where is my DLC costume pack???

 

[Chrono.]

Where is my DLC costume pack???

Miis

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Miis

Don't say that word you'll cause @ TheAnvil to have an aneurysm.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I wonder... What if the Pirate Ship and Termina bay are exclusive and sold as counter parts? i.e. you can get both with the two system deal.

 

[WeirdJoe27]

Miis

How's that relevant?

 

[Das Koopa]

DLC Ballot chances evaluated without walls of text, based on this popularity poll: (Not including vets since I've gone over those, and it's exceedingly unlikely any will be ballot winners to begin with.)

Spoiler

Inkling:

+Unique moveset potential (more than anybody else here.)
+Loads of popularity.
-Costumes specifically as DLC for Mii Fighters.
-A DLC trophy of an Inkling was released.

Paper Mario:

+Unique moveset potential.
+Very popular franchise with 4 games and 1 upcoming crossover.
-Risks overrepresenting one single character (3 Marios.)

Bayonetta:

+Unique moveset potential.
+Loads of popularity with older (20s-30s) crowd.
-Assuredly too risque. Would give DLC pack she's in a T rating, which Nintendo seems to want to avoid.

Shovel Knight:

+Loads of popularity.
+Unique Moveset potential.
+Potentially could represent the indie sect of gaming.
-Shovel Knight hasn't been released in Japan.
-Shovel Knight isn't popular in Japan (as a result of the above.)

King K. Rool:

+Possibly the most popular character to represent an existing franchise.
+Representation to a franchise that has historically received little.
-King K. Rool's in-game relevancy has long passed.

Issac:

+Loud, dedicated fanbase.
+Unique moveset potential.
+Possibly the most reliably popular dark horse candidate of the ballot.
-Niche popularity from an era that has given scarce representation.
-Comes from a dead series where he is no longer even the main protagonist.
-No sign of any Golden Sun representation in this game besides 2 songs.

Banjo-Kazooie:

+Unique moveset potential.
+The most popular 3rd Party request by a mile.
-Potential licensing nightmare.
-Little to no relevancy.


I'd say Rool, Isaac, and Paper Mario have the best shot. Not because they have much in particular going for them passed their loud fanbases and moveset potential (which most of these characters have) but because they don't have anything that makes them strictly unlikely.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

DLC Ballot chances evaluated without walls of text, based on this popularity poll: (Not including vets since I've gone over those, and it's exceedingly unlikely any will be ballot winners to begin with.)

Spoiler

Inkling:

+Unique moveset potential (more than anybody else here.)
+Loads of popularity.
-Costumes specifically as DLC for Mii Fighters.
-A DLC trophy of an Inkling was released.

Paper Mario:

+Unique moveset potential.
+Very popular franchise with 4 games and 1 upcoming crossover.
-Risks overrepresenting one single character (3 Marios.)

Bayonetta:

+Unique moveset potential.
+Loads of popularity with older (20s-30s) crowd.
-Assuredly too risque. Would give DLC pack she's in a T rating, which Nintendo seems to want to avoid.

Shovel Knight:

+Loads of popularity.
+Unique Moveset potential.
+Potentially could represent the indie sect of gaming.
-Shovel Knight hasn't been released in Japan.
-Shovel Knight isn't popular in Japan (as a result of the above.)

King K. Rool:

+Possibly the most popular character to represent an existing franchise.
+Representation to a franchise that has historically received little.
-King K. Rool's in-game relevancy has long passed.

Issac:

+Loud, dedicated fanbase.
+Unique moveset potential.
+Possibly the most reliably popular dark horse candidate of the ballot.
-Niche popularity from an era that has given scarce representation.
-Comes from a dead series where he is no longer even the main protagonist.
-No sign of any Golden Sun representation in this game besides a ported Brawl song.

Banjo-Kazooie:

+Unique moveset potential.
+The most popular 3rd Party request by a mile.
-Potential licensing nightmare.


I'd say Rool, Isaac, and Paper Mario have the best shot. Not because they have much in particular going for them passed their loud fanbases and moveset potential (which most of these characters have) but because they don't have anything that makes them strictly unlikely.

Actually there's two songs.
The other one is on Palutena's temple.

 

[A Distant Demon]

DLC Ballot chances evaluated without walls of text, based on this popularity poll: (Not including vets since I've gone over those, and it's exceedingly unlikely any will be ballot winners to begin with.)

Spoiler

Inkling:

+Unique moveset potential (more than anybody else here.)
+Loads of popularity.
-Costumes specifically as DLC for Mii Fighters.
-A DLC trophy of an Inkling was released.
-very new

Paper Mario:

+Unique moveset potential.
+Very popular franchise with 4 games and 1 upcoming crossover.
-Risks overrepresenting one single character (3 Marios.)

Bayonetta:

+Unique moveset potential.
+Loads of popularity with older (20s-30s) crowd.
-Assuredly too risque. Would give DLC pack she's in a T rating, which Nintendo seems to want to avoid.
-3rd party and not super iconic

Shovel Knight:

+Loads of popularity.
+Unique Moveset potential.
+Potentially could represent the indie sect of gaming.
-Shovel Knight hasn't been released in Japan.
-Shovel Knight isn't popular in Japan (as a result of the above.)
-indie
-popularity has heavily faded

King K. Rool:

+Possibly the most popular character to represent an existing franchise.
+Representation to a franchise that has historically received little.
-King K. Rool's in-game relevancy has long passed.

Issac:

+Loud, dedicated fanbase.
+Unique moveset potential.
+Possibly the most reliably popular dark horse candidate of the ballot.
-Niche popularity from an era that has given scarce representation.
-Comes from a dead series where he is no longer even the main protagonist.
-No sign of any Golden Sun representation in this game besides a ported Brawl song.

Banjo-Kazooie:

+Unique moveset potential.
+The most popular 3rd Party request by a mile.
-Potential licensing nightmare.
-little to no relevancy

added some of my own negatives

 

[Khoru]

added some of my own negatives

there have been six third-party companies to have had content in all of super smash bros.
they are:
-Konami
-Sega
-Capcom (and Capcom USA)
-Bandai Namco
-Ubisoft
-Choice Provisions, an indie studio

(and maybe omiyasoft, but nintendo might co-own culdcept 3ds like fatal frame)

...oh yeah, and rare? but they became third-party

 

[BluePikmin11]

Dos anyone know the global sales of Splatoon?

 

[Thelimomon]

Why do I keep hearing things like "Shovel Knight's popularity has faded." as a point against him?
I assume people say that all the time because he isn't the main part of most discussions anymore, but there are still two major things against this statement:

1. He isn't the "Hot-Topic" anymore because the game is now more than half a year old, so it's normal that there isn't a lot discussion anymore. Yet, this doesn't mean he is suddenly less popular.
Also, there is a lot of DLC coming to Shovel Knight, It's possible that when the first DLC is released there will be talk again, then it fades out after a while, this doesn't mean it's less popular, it's like that with almost everything that isn't something triple A.

2. The votes already happened. There was a lot of Shovel Knight talk when the Ballot started, and every time someone voted for him at this time, well, voted for him. I'm sure it isn't like only votes that happened in the last two weeks of the ballot count.
So for the Ballot, the popularity from the start holds strong until the end. (If they keep track of the votes, somehow like that.)

It isn't like dozens of people who liked Shovel Knight suddenly started to hate it.

By the way, I don't get why people see "very new" as a point against something, as if wasn't evidence enough.