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[Ivander]

So.
Let's take bets now.
1) Which of the 30 UTC are we gonna see tomorrow (if any)?
2) What Alolan forms are we going to see?
3) What new Alolan pokemon are we going to see?
4) Are we going to see a new unique Z-move?

1: I don't know which one we'll see(if any), but I do hope we see a new Fairy one, preferably Fairy/Fighting. Either that or Dark/Electric.
2: A new one. C'mon, Shellder and Cloyster.
3: Like you said, a new one. I do hope for a new Fairy one though.
4: Maybe. I don't see it being guaranteed, but after showing off the Alolan Raichu and Snorlax ones, I wouldn't be surprised if there was one shown.

 

[Retroend]

can they please show us the starters 1st evolution stages already? some of these rumors need to get confirmed or debunked.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I wish someone would look at me the way @RealKevinConroy looked at @HamillHimself @FANEXPOCANADA #justkiddinghoney pic.twitter.com/aqhib7spLr

— Brent Ferguson (@BrentAFerguson) September 5, 2016

Batman x Joker is canon

Did they even say where this poke news was gonna be? Imma take a shot in the dark and say it will be on the english and Japanese Pokemon youtube channal

It's most likely then. Luckily for me, I can use the school computer then

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Unused Type Combination

Edit: The list.

Spoiler

01: Fairy/Dark
02: Fairy/Poison
03: Fairy/Fire
04: Fairy/Ground
05: Fairy/Fighting
06: Dark/Electric
07: Dark/Bug
08: Steel/Poison
09: Steel/Normal
10: Fire/Grass
11: Fire/Ice
12: Electric/Poison
13: Electric/Fighting
14: Electric/Rock
15: Rock/Poison
16: Rock/Normal
17: Rock/Ghost
18: Poison/Psychic
19: Poison/Normal
20: Poison/Ice
21: Psychic/Bug
22: Ground/Fighting
23: Bug/Normal
24: Bug/Ice
25: Bug/Dragon
26: Normal/Ghost
27: Normal/Ice
28: Ghost/Fighting
29: Fighting/Ice
30: Fighting/Dragon

Psychic Bug or Electric Fighting

 

[Wario Bros.]

I'm having a blast with Pokémon Uranium.

Looking forward to tomorrow's Sun & Moon info too.

 

[Arcanir]

So.
Let's take bets now.
1) Which of the 30 UTC are we gonna see tomorrow (if any)?
2) What Alolan forms are we going to see?
3) What new Alolan pokemon are we going to see?
4) Are we going to see a new unique Z-move?

1. Electric/Dark or Dark/Bug, I'm not sure on this one.
2. Arcanine (I still believe!), Butterfree, Arbok, Geodude, Staryu.
3. Best guess out of what we know is the rugby monkey or the dolphin, I could also see Akala's deity be shown off too.
4. Yes, I feel they'll expand more on that mechanic as the Snorlax example felt like a taste of what was to come. On a related note, I also feel Z-forms (I'm calling them that) will be shown off this month, so either tomorrow or not too long after Corocoro's release would be my guess for them.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Someone who gets it!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

All I want to see get confirmed is that ****ing Greninja form
Also hope Rockruff's evolution is a humanoid werewolf

 

[Wario Bros.]

All I want to see get confirmed is that ****ing Greninja form
Also hope Rockruff's evolution is a humanoid werewolf

IIRC The Rockruff evo was teased in the previous CoroCoro for this month.

Ash-Greninja I don't know, on the other hand.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Spoilers for Jojo DiU that'll probably only be in the anime after another 13 episodes

Spoiler

jfc the Jojo fandom LOVES DiU memes
Professor Pumpkaboo Apparently Hello Kitty is coming to Animal Crossing

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

It's most likely then. Luckily for me, I can use the school computer then

oh thats 12 p my time. I should be out of class by then. Normaly that stuff is instantly on youtube anway

Professor Pumpkaboo Apparently Hello Kitty is coming to Animal Crossing

Oh Trust me, I saw it already thanks to tumblr and I'm still happy about it. May or may not come to the west but hopefully it will

 

[Burruni]

Guys.

I don't even know what to say on this one.
Just christ.
Good work?

 

[ChikoLad]

In the case of AM2R and the 500+ gamejolt fangames, I'd say Nintendo was completely justified. Give me a single reason anyone would buy Metroid II for 3 bucks on the eshop if they could just play AM2R, a game that not only is free, but is overall filled with more content. And gamejolt lets you earn money if people play your fangame, AKA you can make money off of Mario, Zelda and Pokemon without actually owning any of the IPs, not to mention there's always a possibility people would think "Why would I buy the official games if I could play all these fangames for free?". I WILL agree that No Mario Sky and Pokemon Uranium aren't justified, though the Uranium devs claimed that Nintendo didn't tell them to stop

Just wanted to say...

Technically, they are legally justified in any takedown notice.

So that's not the issue with AM2R.

The issue with AM2R (and Uranium since it was a similar case), was that it was literally in development for a decade.

Nintendo had AAAAAAALLLLL of this time to issue a takedown notice.

The game had numerous demos, soundtrack previews, and the like, so it's not like it was under the radar or something.

And I'm pretty sure the VC port of Metroid II was out for a while before the game fully released too.

But Nintendo only decided to issue that takedown notice when the game was OUT. Finished. After a decade of work. After all of the blood, sweat, and tears had already been poured into it.

That's just plain rude.

It's especially jarring when Nintendo just hasn't been doing well at all lately, in terms of delivering games their consumers want. Lately, it's felt like they are just going out of their way to do what people never asked for (SMtxFE except it's really Otaku J-Pop Stars: The Video Game), if not things people have been vocal about not wanting (a sequel to Sticker Star). Not to mention even situations where it feels like they explicitly put less effort into it a game than previous installments in that same series (Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash). Of course passion projects like AM2R will pop up when a company does that. In Metroid's case, the company doesn't do **** with the franchise for years, the last game was panned and legit ruined the reputation of one of their beloved characters, and then they decide to make a chibi-fied spin-off starring faceless soldiers. They are literally not handling this situation elegantly at all.

If they were smart, they would have left AM2R alone. Even better, they could give it an official blessing and promote it a bit (like what Capcom did with Mega Man X Street Fighter, which worked out well). But no, they did the WORST possible thing, and decided to try and gimp the project at the most HORRIBLE time (both when the project was just finished after a decade of work, AND during what now feels like an unceremonious 30th Anniversary for the Metroid franchise).

Metroid II on the VC also isn't much of a defense. Nobody was buying it. Nobody in 2016 wants to play a bog standard port of a game from an extremely dated console, when better options from that same franchise exist on the Wii U eShop. Or when there is an upcoming spiritual successor to Metroid (Axiom Verge) launching on Wii U. Not to mention, Nintendo REALLY did nothing to advertise Metroid II's existence on the eShop. Like, most people didn't even know until AM2R came out.

There's really no defense for what they did, it was a boneheaded move from every possible angle. And the fact that it is becoming a trend with them lately, makes it even worse. I wouldn't be surprised if they take a stand against Smash modding or something at this rate.

They exercised their legal right, but that alone as a reason to do something is juvenile. I would be legally within my rights/not breaking any laws if I went to London and started singing "Get Out Ye Black and Tans", but it would still be an incredibly tactless thing to do that could potentially make people want nothing to do with me. Nintendo as a company thrives on people wanting something to do with them, so the last thing they need to be doing (especially now, in such a critical time for them) is actively making people pissed off with them.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I'm actually impressed.

Paper Mario is funny again.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Just wanted to say...

Technically, they are legally justified in any takedown notice.

So that's not the issue with AM2R.

The issue with AM2R (and Uranium since it was a similar case), was that it was literally in development for a decade.

Nintendo had AAAAAAALLLLL of this time to issue a takedown notice.

The game had numerous demos, soundtrack previews, and the like, so it's not like it was under the radar or something.

And I'm pretty sure the VC port of Metroid II was out for a while before the game fully released too.

But Nintendo only decided to issue that takedown notice when the game was OUT. Finished. After a decade of work. After all of the blood, sweat, and tears had already been poured into it.

That's just plain rude.

It's especially jarring when Nintendo just hasn't been doing well at all lately, in terms of delivering games their consumers want. Lately, it's felt like they are just going out of their way to do what people never asked for (SMtxFE except it's really Otaku J-Pop Stars: The Video Game), if not things people have been vocal about not wanting (a sequel to Sticker Star). Not to mention even situations where it feels like they explicitly put less effort into it a game than previous installments in that same series (Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash). Of course passion projects like AM2R will pop up when a company does that. In Metroid's case, the company doesn't do **** with the franchise for years, the last game was panned and legit ruined the reputation of one of their beloved characters, and then they decide to make a chibi-fied spin-off starring faceless soldiers. They are literally not handling this situation elegantly at all.

If they were smart, they would have left AM2R alone. Even better, they could give it an official blessing and promote it a bit (like what Capcom did with Mega Man X Street Fighter, which worked out well). But no, they did the WORST possible thing, and decided to try and gimp the project at the most HORRIBLE time (both when the project was just finished after a decade of work, AND during what now feels like an unceremonious 30th Anniversary for the Metroid franchise).

Metroid II on the VC also isn't much of a defense. Nobody was buying it. Nobody in 2016 wants to play a bog standard port of a game from an extremely dated console, when better options from that same franchise exist on the Wii U eShop. Or when there is an upcoming spiritual successor to Metroid (Axiom Verge) launching on Wii U. Not to mention, Nintendo REALLY did nothing to advertise Metroid II's existence on the eShop. Like, most people didn't even know until AM2R came out.

There's really no defense for what they did, it was a boneheaded move from every possible angle. And the fact that it is becoming a trend with them lately, makes it even worse. I wouldn't be surprised if they take a stand against Smash modding or something at this rate.

They exercised their legal right, but that alone as a reason to do something is juvenile. I would be legally within my rights/not breaking any laws if I went to London and started singing "Get Out Ye Black and Tans", but it would still be an incredibly tactless thing to do that could potentially make people want nothing to do with me. Nintendo as a company thrives on people wanting something to do with them, so the last thing they need to be doing (especially now, in such a critical time for them) is actively making people pissed off with them.

From what I heard, apparently there's some law which has it so Nintendo literally couldn't take it down until it was finished. And the Metroid II VC is what I was talking about. And about you're "No one wants Metroid II" bit, you said Wii U eshop, when the 3DS is a much more used system and the one that has GB games
"It's just rude" as a business student I can confirm there are zero companies that care about getting flak protecting their property

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Guys.

I don't even know what to say on this one.
Just christ.
Good work?

If only it had The Skull Girls audio to make it 10x better

Oh my bad, it does

 

[Z25]

Did they even say where this poke news was gonna be? Imma take a shot in the dark and say it will be on the english and Japanese Pokemon youtube channal

Yup, on the youtube like they've been doing.

 

[ChikoLad]

From what I heard, apparently there's some law which has it so Nintendo literally couldn't take it down until it was finished. And the Metroid II VC is what I was talking about. And about you're "No one wants Metroid II" bit, you said Wii U eshop, when the 3DS is a much more used system and the one that has GB games
"It's just rude" as a business student I can confirm there are zero companies that care about getting flak protecting their property

There is no law stating that. Tons of fan games/projects have been taken down before completion before.

I did economics in school too, and economics by definition, is a social science. It revolves around people and how they think. Which is why companies do (and should) care about their image and public reception.

Nintendo cares about their image too, there are countless pieces of evidence towards this. It's just very ill-conceived a lot of the time.

 

[Radical Bones]

I'd love to see an Electric/Fighting Pokemon as well as a Steel/Poison.

Also, gimmie that Bug/Fairy Parasect.

 

[Aetheri]

In the case of AM2R and the 500+ gamejolt fangames, I'd say Nintendo was completely justified. Give me a single reason anyone would buy Metroid II for 3 bucks on the eshop if they could just play AM2R, a game that not only is free, but is overall filled with more content. And gamejolt lets you earn money if people play your fangame, AKA you can make money off of Mario, Zelda and Pokemon without actually owning any of the IPs, not to mention there's always a possibility people would think "Why would I buy the official games if I could play all these fangames for free?". I WILL agree that No Mario Sky and Pokemon Uranium aren't justified, though the Uranium devs claimed that Nintendo didn't tell them to stop

You can play Metroid II anywhere on the 3DS whereas AM2R is limited to a computer and is very inconvenient to play if you don't have an Controller that is compatible with your computer (which is why I haven't really played it much at this point)...

Also people who play this remake may want to try the original (as well as possibly Super Metroid, Fusion, and MZM) if they actually enjoyed it enough...you could think of it as a glorified demo version...

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I'm actually impressed.

Paper Mario is funny again.

Can I just say how much I like the music

 

[Cutie Gwen]

There is no law stating that. Tons of fan games/projects have been taken down before completion before.

I did economics in school too, and economics by definition, is a social science. It revolves around people and how they think. Which is why companies do (and should) care about their image and public reception.

Nintendo cares about their image too, there are countless pieces of evidence towards this. It's just very ill-conceived a lot of the time.

In that case the only plausible statement is that Nintendo simply didn't know about it until then, which I don't really put much faith in

You can play Metroid II anywhere on the 3DS whereas AM2R is limited to a computer and is very inconvenient to play if you don't have an Controller that is compatible with your computer (which is why I haven't really played it much at this point)...

Also people who play this remake may want to try the original (as well as possibly Super Metroid, Fusion, and MZM) if they actually enjoyed it enough...you could think of it as a glorified demo version...

About controllers being needed, that's a subjective matter, and laptops exist. "Also people who play this remake may want to try the original" except why? If you greatly enjoyed AM2R, why buy a version you KNOW has less content, next to no colour and overall a lower quality? I agree with you on the other Metroid games you listed though

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Guys.

I don't even know what to say on this one.
Just christ.
Good work?

Love these collabs with Rhythm Heaven and other properties.
...
I should play a Rhythm Heaven game.

 

[Burruni]

Love these collabs with Rhythm Heaven and other properties.
...
I should play a Rhythm Heaven game.

Go buy Megamix.
Now.

 

[Bananija]

Spoilers for Jojo DiU that'll probably only be in the anime after another 13 episodes

Spoiler

jfc the Jojo fandom LOVES DiU memes

Spoiler: Similar DIU spoiler/Similar meme

Fact: The JoJo subreddit has a meme thread every mondays. It's also where you can find this picture along with countless beautiful JoJo memes.

 

[Aetheri]

In that case the only plausible statement is that Nintendo simply didn't know about it until then, which I don't really put much faith in

About controllers being needed, that's a subjective matter, and laptops exist. "Also people who play this remake may want to try the original" except why? If you greatly enjoyed AM2R, why buy a version you KNOW has less content, next to no colour and overall a lower quality? I agree with you on the other Metroid games you listed though

I know it's reaching but playing the original for the sake of comparison...it can make you appreciate the remake more if you see how well it follows the source material, and AM2R actually does rather well...this is of course referring to those who enjoyed the game enough to have interest...I wonder if there'll be any future Metroid fans who became a fan playing AM2R...I find this to be a distinct possibility...

Also I never said controllers are needed I said it's less convenient to play without a controller...And laptops aren't exactly something you can stuff in your back pocket when you're on the go...

I honestly don't think it's really going to hurt the sales of a 25 year old game that's been on the eshop for a few years now all that much if at all...especially since I can literally get the game for free on an emulator if I wanted...

 

[Coricus]

We're five days into September and NeoGaf is already freaking out thinking the NX won't be revealed this month or even this year at all.

Because we haven't seen news for five days.

. . .There's still another 25 to go. Sony has an announcement in two days that Nintendo likely wants to leapfrog.

Will they skip TGS? Since so many people are acting like Nintendo is required to time their reveal with TGS, then probably yes.

But there's a whole half a month after that, too.

If it comes down to it Nintendo is probably shooting for a late September reveal. Why? Because it's a guess that doesn't play the "what they should do" card without overreacting and acting like they're going to actively jump for the worst reveal time possible because you're personally impatient, that's why. I mean, I'm getting impatient too at this point, but I still haven't gotten to THAT point of impatience where I feel like Nintendo is deliberately trying to hurt everyone by not giving the universe instant gratification that some people seem to have.

 

[A Distant Demon]

We're five days into 2016 and NeoGaf is already freaking out thinking the NX won't be revealed this year

Fixed that so it's neogaf in a nutshell

 

[Aetheri]

We're five days into September and NeoGaf is already freaking out thinking the NX won't be revealed this month or even this year at all.

Because we haven't seen news for five days.

. . .There's still another 25 to go. Sony has an announcement in two days that Nintendo likely wants to leapfrog.

Will they skip TGS? Since so many people are acting like Nintendo is required to time their reveal with TGS, then probably yes.

But there's a whole half a month after that, too.

If it comes down to it Nintendo is probably shooting for a late September reveal. Why? Because it's a guess that doesn't play the "what they should do" card without overreacting and acting like they're going to actively jump for the worst reveal time possible because you're personally impatient, that's why. I mean, I'm getting impatient too at this point, but I still haven't gotten to THAT point of impatience where I feel like Nintendo is deliberately trying to hurt everyone by not giving the universe instant gratification that some people seem to have.

I know some people have been talking about Nintendo possibly revealing the NX in October...I'm not holding my breath for anything until we actually get any official word, Nintendo has stated they will talk about it before the year is over...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I know it's reaching but playing the original for the sake of comparison...it can make you appreciate the remake more if you see how well it follows the source material, and AM2R actually does rather well...

Also I never said controllers are needed I said it's less convenient to play without a controller...And laptops aren't exactly something you can stuff in your back pocket when you're on the go...

I honestly don't think it's really going to hurt the sales of a 25 year old game that's been on the eshop for a few years now all that much if at all...especially since I can literally get the game for free on an emulator if I wanted...

Like you said however, it's still reaching
That's subjective, and I've seen more than enough people who bring laptops everywhere they go
Regardless, it's still seen as competition. Not to mention emulators aren't legal (I personally think emulators should only be used if you already have the game or can't get the game feasibly)

 

[Aetheri]

Like you said however, it's still reaching
That's subjective, and I've seen more than enough people who bring laptops everywhere they go
Regardless, it's still seen as competition. Not to mention emulators aren't legal (I personally think emulators should only be used if you already have the game or can't get the game feasibly)

emulators aren't legal but they exist...they provide more competition than fan games because fan games at the very least are transformative content based off of the original source material, as opposed to straight up providing the source material itself...

Either way....

What would people nickname an evil poisonous dragon scorpion?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Love these collabs with Rhythm Heaven and other properties.
...
I should play a Rhythm Heaven game.

Megamix is calling

 

[Lord Dio]

Spoilers for Jojo DiU that'll probably only be in the anime after another 13 episodes

Spoiler

jfc the Jojo fandom LOVES DiU memes
Professor Pumpkaboo Apparently Hello Kitty is coming to Animal Crossing

They love DIO memes just as much tho.
Also, I did NOT know there would be more news about S&M tomorrow. Hyyyyyyped. Here's hoping for Fire type Alolan Grimer, that would be sweet.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Fixed that so it's neogaf in a nutshell

Can I just say... your avatar is the best

 

[Coricus]

I know some people have been talking about Nintendo possibly revealing the NX in October...I'm not holding my breath for anything until we actually get any official word, Nintendo has stated they will talk about it before the year is over...

I can see it stretching it to October, I've even mentioned it once before.

My anticipation and the way everyone acts like the Eurogamer leak that apparently mentioned September as one of the many things on it (saw someone say that today, keep forgetting the full contents of that leak myself) is real makes me lean September a bit though, even if late September.

I don't see it going any later than October though. I doubt Nintendo wants it to be drowned out by Christmas shopping season.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Go buy Megamix.
Now.

Megamix is calling

Downloaded the demo.
It's really fun, but damn does my rhythm suck.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

This week is going to fly by, I'm sure it would. Isn't this the same time that Sony would unveil the Playstation 4 Neo?

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

This week is going to fly by, I'm sure it would. Isn't this the same time that Sony would unveil the Playstation 4 Neo?

The avatar and new title speaks into the hearts of millions waiting for NX news.

How fitting.

 

[AndreaAC]

Yomi's Biggest Fan I think your new avi got me way more terrified than AwesomeAussie27 's .

 

[AreJay25]

For some god forsaken reason I'm doing a playthrough of Mega Man and Bass.

It's 11 PM, why am I doing this to myself.