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Geno Boost

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I hope Shovel Knight gets amiibo compatibility with Super Mario Maker.
 

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> Sees Metal Mario
> Sees Alex Kidd Wig, Outfit (Brawler)
"AAAAAAAAHHH!!!!"

if this is real then what was Sakurai thinking!? why would he pick a 3rd Mario over another gaming console mascot!? this sounds stupid i hope its fake.
but i would be ok with Alex Kidd mii costume its better than nothing...
Seriously, Metal Mario is infinitely more plausible than Alex Kidd.
 

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Speaking of which....Dark Pit doesn't have the newcomer banner on the website, even though Lucina does. Since Dark Pit is technically a veteran from Brawl, would Sakurai consider Metal Mario a veteran?
Dark Pit's page doesn't have the newcomer label by mistake.

He's acknowledged as a newcomer in the game and his debut is stated to be Kid Icarus: Uprising. In All-Star mode, he appears after Shulk (2010) and before Robin and Lucina (April 2012). KIU was released in March 2012.

There are also the fighter cards Nintendo made for all characters in the game, alts included.


Look at the "NEWCOMER" label and debut game.

Yes, there is a costume for Pit in Brawl that is very similar to Dark Pit (not identical, though) and likely served as an inspiration for the character. However, that doesn't make Dark Pit a veteran since his character didn't exist back then.

As for Metal Mario, it's really curious whether Sakurai would label him a veteran or a newcomer. Since he has appeared in Smash games before, I'd guess he's a veteran. On the other hand, the veteran/newcomer terminology could apply to playable status.

See Charizard and Little Mac. They previously appeared as NPCs, but still were part of the battles, yet were labelled as newcomers when they debuted as playable characters.

Seriously, Metal Mario is infinitely more plausible than Alex Kidd.
And more viable in regards to development.

A clone takes much less time to develop than a new character.

Cuz he is Nintendo character?
That as well, but like I said, Metal Mario, as a clone character, wouldn't take as much development time as a completely new character.
 

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That as well, but like I said, Metal Mario, as a clone character, wouldn't take as much development time as a completely new character.
But why Metal Mario???? There are more deserving clones than him there is no reason to multiply the same character again and again instead of putting a new original character.
 
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Of the two living "rumors", we either have Squirtle, Wolf and Metal Mario OR Shovel Knight ?

I'd take the first pack anytime. Not like it matters because none of the two rumors will become reality.
 

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But why Meatal Mario???? There are more deserving clones than him there is no reason to multiply the same character again and again instead of putting a new original character.
If you knew a lick about game design, you would understand.

They can just re-texture Mario's model and bam, Metal Mario. Port the same animations and all that was needed would be changing the moves' proprieties.

That takes much less work than doing an actual new model.

Not like this rumor holds any sort of truth, to be absolutely honest. In regards to him becoming Gold Mario when getting a Metal Box, what about the Golden Plains stage on the 3DS version where characters become golden when grabbing 100 coins?

How would that work with Metal Mario to avoid redundancies?
 
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Problems with Metal Mario:
-Who would pay money for that?
-Confusing when there are other Metal Marios and "leaker' said he becomes golden when using a Metal Box when Golden Plain exists

Pros:
-Knowing Sakurai, this is actually feasible
-Masahiro ****ing Sakurai
Of the two living "rumors", we either have Squirtle, Wolf and Metal Mario OR Shovel Knight ?

I'd take the first pack anytime. Not like it matters because none of the two rumors will become reality.
I would love to see Squirtle back but Shovel Knight is a more interesting character, has great moveset potential and will bring music from his game with him
 

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Shovel Knight is a tons time better than 2 veterans who are fine, but really take em or leave em, and a third Mario that isn't even going to bring anything new.

I'd rather have one supremely unique character than 1 unique veteran, and 2 that are variants on another character's playstyle.
 
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http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/308726527/nintendo-amiibo
Have we ever had a amiibo leak before?IMO starts off fine but stop reading when i saw no daisy
I wouldn't be surprised if Waluigi and not Daisy gets an amiibo.

Of the two living "rumors", we either have Squirtle, Wolf and Metal Mario OR Shovel Knight ?

I'd take the first pack anytime. Not like it matters because none of the two rumors will become reality.
I'd take the former scenario. Metal Mario may be redundant, but at least we get Wolf.

I would like to point out that when Yacht Club said "multiple amiibo" they said the base for the Shovel Knight amiibo will be the standard for if they decide to do other Shovel Knight amiibo in the future. That doesn't help the case for Smash at all. It was specifically at the base and that it was the official Shovel Knight base that would be used in all future amiibo endeavors for them.
I'd be okay seeing a Shovel Knight Mii costume.
 
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Theres no proof to the Metal Mario leak whatsoever, but yet it sounds so plausible for some reason. Its just one of those oddball choices. Like I remember there was a leak with the Stork from Yoshis Island, and instantly people said "Thats a Sakurai pick" or there was Ultrahand in a leak, and then we saw Ultrahand in Rusty's Real Deal with a full body, making him viable as a ROB like character.....something very sakurai like.
 

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Great question actually.
I'm basically paraphrasing my post on it.

@ Tama Tama has constantly referred to it as a rumor and not a leak, so I've done the same.

To be honest it could just be a word choice.

Though, if I had to guess the reason it's a "rumor" and not a "leak" is because the information was first told via a reliable source. If they had given more hard evidence (Images, video, documents, etc) in direct relation to the Shovel Knight in Smash rumor, Tamaki might have called it a "leak". They are a reliable source of information, which is the whole reason we are entertaining this rumor. If it was just a random 4chan rumor, I personally wouldn't give it the light of day.

In the end the "rumor" rests on a couple of noteworthy collaborating sources...and now some strange coincidences which point to the rumor being potentially true (Yacht Club Games no answer on the rumor, saying there could be multiple amiibo, etc). However, until we find hard evidence, it's best to call it a "rumor", as we are not 100% sure.

A lot of what we label as "leaks" should actually be labelled as "rumors" if we want to get into semantics.
Well put. I've done leaks before:
MercurySteam's Metroid pitch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22E5ectnU4o
Zombi U coming to PS4 & Xbox One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp5nn4JlGe4
Skylanders 2015: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...ers_details_leak_features_a_focus_on_vehicles

...but this is not something I would regard as a leak. A leak, to me, is verified info. It is backed by irrefutable proof that I've been able to see with my own eyes. For this, I have not seen that yet. It is a handful of people talking, saying things will happen. That's nice, but it's not really irrefutable. When we get that proof (if we get it), then I'd regard it as a leak. Until then, rumour it is.
 
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^ I refresh the page the moment Tama posts the above comment and @ PushDustIn PushDustIn already liked it.

What even.
I had *just* signed on, and got a notification that Tamaki replied to my post. I read it before "liking" it.

Btw, we are still talking about Metal Mario? That has a 2% chance of happening at best.
 

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If Metal Mario gets the metal box, what happens? Do the two cancel each other out and he reverts to regular Mario?
 

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I had *just* signed on, and got a notification that Tamaki replied to my post. I read it before "liking" it.

Btw, we are still talking about Metal Mario? That has a 2% chance of happening at best.
Push "Gotta go fast" Dustin.

If Metal Mario gets the metal box, what happens? Do the two cancel each other out and he reverts to regular Mario?
He turns into Gold Mario? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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Sakurai is missing the Sora Ltd stickers(?) on Sonic and Ness.
 

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I would be more excited for Metal Mario than Squirtle...
 

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I am sure there is, having Alex Kidd in smash doesn't mean "random and useless"
Sega's failed first attempt at a mascot is about as random and useless as it gets.

If a second Sega character were added, it should (and likely would) be another Sonic character, as it's far and beyond Sega's most iconic franchise.
 
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I am sure there is, having Alex Kidd in smash doesn't mean "random and useless"
I'm sorry but a third party character that hasn't had a new game released in their own series for 25 years is definitely "random"
People won't recognise him and if they do it'll mainly be from the SEGA crossovers, not the Alex Kidd series.
 
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Sega's failed first attempt at a mascot is about as random and useless as it gets.

If a second Sega character were added, it should (and likely would) be another Sonic character, as it's far and beyond Sega's most iconic franchise.
I think it should be Jack Frost from SMT.
 

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Alex Kidd isn't obscure though, he's probably the second most known SEGA character (obviously not counting Sonic friends, ugh); Also, for a Mii Costume isn't something very hard to do, since there already at least three or four 3D Models for him;
--I mean, if Akira can get in..

The Master System and SEGA Genesis games of Alex Kidd are very popular and beloved, at least around here; People has the same nostalgia with him as they have with Sonic (maybe even more); --At games like All-Stars Racing, is always a big deal having him in the cast.. He even was a Christmas special DLC in the last one, if I'm not mistaken.
 
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