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And Roy did not return to the base game
Not only he has no fanbase in the FE community he's also universally hated there
The only popularity he has comes from Smash and he was only brought back as DLC because there was nothing else
EDIT: This sums up what I need to say much better than my words below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X504v3v3iqQ&lc=z131ujsrcrz5z5h0o22vudgj5w3vuhqbb04

Should link to a specific comment in the video.

Roy was only hated by a small niche of western fans who only care about map-clearing lords that make the games easy for novice players, not anywhere close to any majority. He is a well-liked character by Fire Emblem fans, especially in Japan.

There were many, many other choices for DLC. Roy deserved his win. Roy's popularity, how important he is to Fire Emblem (represents one of its biggest continents, its second-biggest system, the only FE veteran, balances out classic FE from modern since Awakening used to be 50% of FE's representation, many other things), how important he is to Nintendo, fan demand from smash players and constantly frontrunning DLC polls, and other things not off the top of my head due to sleep deprivation are why he's important in Smash and why he returned.

He wasn't in Smash to promote FE6, he was included because a Marth clone was needed in Melee, and he was the best candidate to stand out. He was planned for Brawl (several major indicators of evidence exist, notably within subspace trophy positioning and progress within data files compared to other forbidden seven) so I'm not surprised in the least he eventually came back with Mewtwo.

If you have any other qualms with Roy's inclusion, feel free to let me know and I'll shut them down as soon as I'm online again.
 
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I can't believe it's nearly evening in Japan on Monday the 5th and the ballot is still open.

The hell you doing Nintendy?
 

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I will say.

I have never seen any fanbase other than the FE fanbase loathe a character being included in Smash so much.
 
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I am actually watching the newest episode right now. Zoroarking, watch it! Your life depends on it! Also cookies!
You wouldn't be able to say that after seeing my backlog
2 animes with a total of 50 episodes remaining, a Nuzlocke, some cartoons to catch on and EOIIU which I still expect to have 100+ hours before moving on
EDIT: This sums up what I need to say much better than my words below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X504v3v3iqQ&lc=z131ujsrcrz5z5h0o22vudgj5w3vuhqbb04

Should link to a specific comment in the video.

Roy was only hated by a small niche of western fans who only care about map-clearing lords that make the games easy for novice players, not anywhere close to any majority. He is a well-liked character by Fire Emblem fans, especially in Japan.

There were many, many other choices for DLC. Roy deserved his win. Roy's popularity, how important he is to Fire Emblem (represents one of its biggest continents, its second-biggest system, the only FE veteran, balances out classic FE from modern since Awakening used to be 50% of FE's representation, many other things), how important he is to Nintendo, fan demand from smash players and constantly frontrunning DLC polls, and other things not off the top of my head due to sleep deprivation are why he's important in Smash and why he returned.

He wasn't in Smash to promote FE6, he was included because a Marth clone was needed in Melee, and he was the best candidate to stand out. He was planned for Brawl (several major indicators of evidence exist, notably within subspace trophy positioning and progress within data files compared to other forbidden seven) so I'm not surprised in the least he eventually came back with Mewtwo.

If you have any other qualms with Roy's inclusion, feel free to let me know and I'll shut them down as soon as I'm online again.
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Uh.. can we just say you guys won? I'm tired RN and not feeling like arguing and instead just doing some Bertrand posting, so yeah
 

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Guys, what if this means that October 2nd has never ended? What if we've been repeating the same day over and over?

It's a conspiracy I tell you! A conspiracy!
 
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I will say.

I have never seen any fanbase other than the FE fanbase loathe a character being included in Smash so much.
Some Pokemon fans can be really bitter about Jigglypuff.

And to a lesser extent some are like that with Lucario and Greninja.
 

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He wasn't in Smash to promote FE6, he was included because a Marth clone was needed in Melee
Gonna need a source on that it was needed
Leif is one of my favourite Lords visually and in terms of personality, Roy's personality is dull and he's genuinely useless. Hell, when I used say, Eliwood, I had a very hard time killing enemy units but it's because of Eliwood being a jack of all trades, something that doesn't work well in FE. The problem isn't neccesarily that Roy isn't a map clearing Lord, but how he's a garbage tier unit overall. Low stats, low growths, can only do chip damage, gets countered by said chip damage which is bad as enemies in FE6 have the same hit percentage as you, has low defence, can't double and promotes at the end of the game along with the only weapon he can kill stuff good with. At least Leif has some stuff to help him such as no fatigue and skills

Imma Lord now, blue blue, blue blue blue~
 
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*sigh*....Yes, that's because time constraints are a thing.
That doesn't refute his point, time constraints aren't magically going to go away next game, and lower priority characters, like Roy has been in each Smash game, will still be in danger of getting cut.

Regarding the whole "who is gonna get cut" discussion, I find it silly to speculate and argue now about cuts in the next game, when it's going to be at least a few more years before the topic is relevant and we can more competently gauge the topic, while a character's stock can change significantly in that timeframe.
 

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That doesn't refute his point, time constraints aren't magically going to go away next game, and lower priority characters, like Roy has been in each Smash game, will still be in danger of getting cut.

Regarding the whole "who is gonna get cut" discussion, I find it silly to speculate and argue now about cuts in the next game, when it's going to be at least a few more years before the topic is relevant and we can more competently gauge the topic, while a character's stock can change significantly in that timeframe.
Considering Jigglypuff almost got cut twice...

Also, how do you change your name on this site?
 

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Considering Jigglypuff almost got cut twice...

Also, how do you change your name on this site?
Since you're premium you can do it yourself.

Go to your account by clicking your name up to and scroll down the left side bar till you see advanced options.

It's under there.
 

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Well, of course it's still running in America.

It's in the morning.

Ain't nobody at Nintendo's American offices right now.
 
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Huh.

Basically just "Thanks for voting."
 
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Didn't we talk before about potential males born in the Anna family having to crossdress? :troll:
 
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so i just had a thought if there were going to be 12 more characters what would be the best 12...first party characters?
*warning this is just a list in no order, no current assists or will be chosen*

1. Wolf
2. King k rool
3. Inkling
4. Tetra
5. Isaac
6. Bandana Dee
7. Dixie kong
8. Wonder red
9. Chibi robo
10. Pico (F-zero)
11. Fiora
12. Sylux

it seems like it hits all the right notes to me (the 1 game argument is long dead to me)
 

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so i just had a thought if there were going to be 12 more characters what would be the best 12...first party characters?
*warning this is just a list in no order, no current assists or will be chosen*

1. Wolf
2. King k rool
3. Inkling
4. Tetra
5. Isaac
6. Bandana Dee
7. Dixie kong
8. Wonder red
9. Chibi robo
10. Pico (F-zero)
11. Fiora
12. Sylux

it seems like it hits all the right notes to me (the 1 game argument is long dead to me)
Lots of these make sense.

Why Pico though?
 
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so i just had a thought if there were going to be 12 more characters what would be the best 12...first party characters?
*warning this is just a list in no order, no current assists or will be chosen*

1. Wolf
2. King k rool
3. Inkling
4. Tetra
5. Isaac
6. Bandana Dee
7. Dixie kong
8. Wonder red
9. Chibi robo
10. Pico (F-zero)
11. Fiora
12. Sylux

it seems like it hits all the right notes to me (the 1 game argument is long dead to me)
  1. Wonder Red
  2. Metal Face
  3. Wonder Blue
  4. Anna
  5. Wonder Green
  6. Something something Etrian Odyssey
  7. Wonder Pink
  8. Isaac
  9. Wonder Yellow
  10. Wonder White
  11. Wonder Black
it seems like it hits all the right notes to me (the 1 gameargument is long dead to me)
 

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The text essentially says:

'[The ballot period] has ended. Thank you to everyone who participated'
 

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so i just had a thought if there were going to be 12 more characters what would be the best 12...first party characters?
*warning this is just a list in no order, no current assists or will be chosen*

1. Wolf
2. King k rool
3. Inkling
4. Tetra
5. Isaac
6. Bandana Dee
7. Dixie kong
8. Wonder red
9. Chibi robo
10. Pico (F-zero)
11. Fiora
12. Sylux

it seems like it hits all the right notes to me (the 1 game argument is long dead to me)
Replace Inklings and Pico with Ray MKIII and Anna and it's bootyful
 

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12 first parties or characters in general (third party fear strikes again I see) is more like a new Smash game and not DLC.
 

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They must've just picked a day at random to close the ballot without checking if it was the weekend when no one would be at the office.
 

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What is RWBY anyway?

I keep hearing about it.
 
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